Thank you for offering someone. Only chance of him is if Huddersfield don't go up, which in turn means his pedigree is worse than Dyches so not convinced he's the man but not a bad shout as refreshes go.
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The reality is now out. For half a dozen years the media have been waxing lyrical about Burnley's never say die attitude, working for each other, been very well organised, everyone knowing what their jobs are, hard to beat, you know what to expect at Turf Moor. But I heard it several times from Alan Smith today, and been hearing it a lot during the last half a dozen games from pundits on Radio and TV,about "our lack of quality". Has anyone else noticed that this is now being accepted. With that in mind are we not expecting too much from our beloved team
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I'm entitled to snipe. I've just watched another display of gutless hoofball that looks very much like it will relegate us this season. Norwich two clean sheets against us. Watford first clean sheet for 6 managers against us. Newcastle pre takeover only managed two clean sheets, both against us. 4 wins all season. The football is terrible, results are terrible, the team is well past it's sell by date. The tactics are woeful but never change. Existing on 30% possession a game. Opposition goalkeepers make more successful passes in a game than any of our midfielders. One away win all season.spt_claret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:56 pm
And this is exactly what I'm talking about.
People think wannabe witty quips are a substitute for putting an argument forward.
Everyone's happy to criticise Dyche when we're woeful- which we have been many times this season- but not many actually make a serious suggestion for a replacement.
We're a club in crisis, we're facing a huge undertaking this summer even if by a miracle we stop up. A change of manager doesn't historically do well at crisis clubs, and Dyche has a perfect promotion record for full championship season with us. It's a must to bounce back if financial claims are true,and I'm not sure who there is available who isnt a bigger risk bet. Maybe some people here are. But most just want to snipe.
The club needs an enema.
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I'm entitled to snipe. I've just watched another display of gutless hoofball that looks very much like it will relegate us this season. Norwich two clean sheets against us. Watford first clean sheet for 6 managers against us. Newcastle pre takeover only managed two clean sheets, both against us. 4 wins all season. The football is terrible, results are terrible, the team is well past it's sell by date. The tactics are woeful but never change. Existing on 30% possession a game. Opposition goalkeepers make more successful passes in a game than any of our midfielders. One away win all season.spt_claret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:56 pm
And this is exactly what I'm talking about.
People think wannabe witty quips are a substitute for putting an argument forward.
Everyone's happy to criticise Dyche when we're woeful- which we have been many times this season- but not many actually make a serious suggestion for a replacement.
We're a club in crisis, we're facing a huge undertaking this summer even if by a miracle we stop up. A change of manager doesn't historically do well at crisis clubs, and Dyche has a perfect promotion record for full championship season with us. It's a must to bounce back if financial claims are true,and I'm not sure who there is available who isnt a bigger risk bet. Maybe some people here are. But most just want to snipe.
The club needs an enema.
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I'm entitled to snipe. I've just watched another display of gutless hoofball that looks very much like it will relegate us this season. Norwich two clean sheets against us. Watford first clean sheet for 6 managers against us. Newcastle pre takeover only managed two clean sheets, both against us. 4 wins all season. The football is terrible, results are terrible, the team is well past it's sell by date. The tactics are woeful but never change. Existing on 30% possession a game. Opposition goalkeepers make more successful passes in a game than any of our midfielders. One away win all season.spt_claret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:56 pm
And this is exactly what I'm talking about.
People think wannabe witty quips are a substitute for putting an argument forward.
Everyone's happy to criticise Dyche when we're woeful- which we have been many times this season- but not many actually make a serious suggestion for a replacement.
We're a club in crisis, we're facing a huge undertaking this summer even if by a miracle we stop up. A change of manager doesn't historically do well at crisis clubs, and Dyche has a perfect promotion record for full championship season with us. It's a must to bounce back if financial claims are true,and I'm not sure who there is available who isnt a bigger risk bet. Maybe some people here are. But most just want to snipe.
The club needs an enema.
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We played no worse than on Tuesday, we just got lucky that everton were dogshit.
If we'd have given another team that many chances it'd have been 0-5.
Nothing has changed all season barring a game or two. Performances have all been the same pretty much.
If we'd have given another team that many chances it'd have been 0-5.
Nothing has changed all season barring a game or two. Performances have all been the same pretty much.
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How on earth on one of our best players ( McNeil) could be on the bench today was staggering.
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A couple of midfielders and a striker short of survival this year I think. Dyche may not have been as flexible or inventive as we might like, but if you don't recruit well over 3 or 4 years you're going to get worse. At the end of the day, this isn't a premier league squad.
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I stayed until the end but I’d had enough when I posted. Was good to be back amongst the fans though. There was some applause at the end but the feeling I got was that most seemed to think we’re just not good enough. At least I only had a 15 minute drive home.Jimmymaccer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:53 pmYou at the match P?………
And still time to post such is the action
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Yes but when your squad is as poor as ours your have to prioritise recruitment in certain positions.willsclarets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:55 pmA couple of midfielders and a striker short of survival this year I think. Dyche may not have been as flexible or inventive as we might like, but if you don't recruit well over 3 or 4 years you're going to get worse. At the end of the day, this isn't a premier league squad.
We wasted so much money this season on positions that were just not needed. Fundamentally Collins, Roberts and Weghorsts have been wasted funds this season. None of them are improvement on what we have or had in them positions. Then CM and RM have not been improved for 3-4 seasons.
Say what you want about Dyche but he is criminally at fault for not addressing key areas even with the limited funds we had available. From the team that finished 10th two years ago the only player we have signed that improves us is Cornet
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Just thought I'd bring this back, less than 10 months ago, what a transformation we have seen.
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If ever a post backs up my belief that it isn’t up to the fans to ‘suggest replacements’ it’s up to the board to produce a replacement, then this is it.spt_claret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:56 pm
And this is exactly what I'm talking about.
People think wannabe witty quips are a substitute for putting an argument forward.
Everyone's happy to criticise Dyche when we're woeful- which we have been many times this season- but not many actually make a serious suggestion for a replacement.
We're a club in crisis, we're facing a huge undertaking this summer even if by a miracle we stop up. A change of manager doesn't historically do well at crisis clubs, and Dyche has a perfect promotion record for full championship season with us. It's a must to bounce back if financial claims are true,and I'm not sure who there is available who isnt a bigger risk bet. Maybe some people here are. But most just want to snipe.
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Fair chunk of money spent, however, whole squad dismantled for much more. So overall, minus mega millions.
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I'm overwhelmingly pleased with how well we've done, never expected it and delighted to have had my expectations massively exceeded.gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:45 pmIf ever a post backs up my belief that it isn’t up to the fans to ‘suggest replacements’ it’s up to the board to produce a replacement, then this is it.
Doesn't invalidate that at the time by most measures it seemed like a colossal gamble. It's paid off spectacularly but was still a gamble, and most gambles don't pay off this well. That's why Kompany's success has been so remarkable, because it's unlikely and unusual.
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I don't think it was that much of a gamble. Kompany had been managing in Belgium. Now Waddle was a real gamble.spt_claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:01 pmI'm overwhelmingly pleased with how well we've done, never expected it and delighted to have had my expectations massively exceeded.
Doesn't invalidate that at the time by most measures it seemed like a colossal gamble. It's paid off spectacularly but was still a gamble, and most gambles don't pay off this well. That's why Kompany's success has been so remarkable, because it's unlikely and unusual.
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He had managed for two years in Belgium and was rebuilding historically the biggest club in Belgium which had lost its way, but while getting them reliably back to top 4 was also not pulling up trees. He had experience but his experience wouldn't have suggested that he'd be able to come into a fiercely competitive league like the Championship (which it is for all the arrogance about the standards), oversee such an enormous squad turnover, and instantly deliver a dominant, stylish, rampant team. I figured the 3rd year target for promotion said at the start of the season was the likeliest, but worried this was too slow given the financial concerns and that as this went on or if we lost top players that rebound would become less likely. I felt we needed to bounce back immediately and still do - clubs that stay down can often get stuck down, which was why it struck me as a huge risk, not necessarily just the choice but the timeframe.
Again he's blown me away with how well he's done. Couldn't be happier.
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A gamble is doing something you don't have to do.spt_claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 1:01 pmI'm overwhelmingly pleased with how well we've done, never expected it and delighted to have had my expectations massively exceeded.
Doesn't invalidate that at the time by most measures it seemed like a colossal gamble. It's paid off spectacularly but was still a gamble, and most gambles don't pay off this well. That's why Kompany's success has been so remarkable, because it's unlikely and unusual.
We had to have a clear out, and refresh the squad. You can say we are lucky that it has paid off so well, but it was never a gamble.
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The gamble wasn't the clearout, although there's some I'd have retained who we didn't - Mee especially - and at the time I'd have moved on Barnes although I'm glad he's had a mini renaissance (even if I don't fancy him to score in any more games except Blackburn again and maybe Preston).Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:25 pmA gamble is doing something you don't have to do.
We had to have a clear out, and refresh the squad. You can say we are lucky that it has paid off so well, but it was never a gamble.
The gamble was the potting of an experienced manager with two automatic promotions in his two full seasons at that level with us, and then appointing a manager who only had two years experience and not of a promotion dogfight- at the time I was thinking Carlos Corberan had the best pedigree of anyone we were being linked with, or possibly the Danish (?) fella. And again it was risk in the context of "Regardless of the noise around a 3 year plan, I think we more likely need an instant rebound". Which I stand by as important, and stand by the view that anyone who honestly expected instantly running away with the league like we have, unless they had a crystal ball, had massively inflated expectations. I wouldn't have expected this even under my personal lowest risk scenario/best expectations.
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Nospt_claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:57 pmThe gamble wasn't the clearout, although there's some I'd have retained who we didn't - Mee especially - and at the time I'd have moved on Barnes although I'm glad he's had a mini renaissance (even if I don't fancy him to score in any more games except Blackburn again and maybe Preston).
The gamble was the potting of an experienced manager with two automatic promotions in his two full seasons at that level with us, and then appointing a manager who only had two years experience and not of a promotion dogfight- at the time I was thinking Carlos Corberan had the best pedigree of anyone we were being linked with, or possibly the Danish (?) fella. And again it was risk in the context of "Regardless of the noise around a 3 year plan, I think we more likely need an instant rebound". Which I stand by as important, and stand by the view that anyone who honestly expected instantly running away with the league like we have, unless they had a crystal ball, had massively inflated expectations. I wouldn't have expected this even under my personal lowest risk scenario/best expectations.
Losing Ben wasn't a gamble, because we had no option, he wanted to go.
Losing SD wasn't a gamble, I love what he's done for us, but it was obvious he couldn't, or wouldn't change things.
As for who took over the mantle, only the board were in the interview room. Let's give them credit that they know what they are doing.
Of course no one could predict how well its turned out, but it doesn't change the fact that all the changes were had to be's, not a gamble at all.