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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Nonayforever » Tue May 24, 2022 7:17 pm

All the reports were that Kompany would take over if we remained in the PL but not if we were relegated.
I thought that it would be a bad move if that was his stance.
However, if he takes over with us being in the Championship and earns his stripes, then he will have my full support and more.
I'm all for a manager who is trying to prove himself rather than earning a crust or being in the spotlight.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by SouthLondonexile » Tue May 24, 2022 7:17 pm

Kompany will make a great manager for us.
I love Belgian beer, looking forward to having Jupiler on tap at the club. Happy to buy Defour one if he arrives as a coach.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by elwaclaret » Tue May 24, 2022 7:17 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 7:10 pm
Kompany has a less than fifty percent win rate as a manager so far - not bad but not great and not the sort of rate required for promotion from the championship, unless via the play offs.

Lots of factors excluded from such a high level view, of course.

I’ve read on here that he’s faced various challenges and has actually done a good job in steadying the shop. My view of Anderlecht is perhaps rather a historic one, expecting them to be challenging for the title in Belgium, so perhaps I’m being a little harsh in being less than convinced by him as an option.

I think it’s a bit of a gamble (I suppose most appointments are) but I can see a few positives.
Fully understand your point. However on the flip side… club in turmoil, high fan expectations/traditional club, rebuild needed achieved in short order, young well connected and wanting to make a name for himself as possible future City boss…
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 24, 2022 7:31 pm

if he wants the Man City job in the future he wont get it by managing in Belgium. He needs to prove himself and there is no better place than at Burnley. Antiquated brexit hoofball old team (perceived) - if he can turn that around then the world is his oyster

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Murger » Tue May 24, 2022 7:34 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 7:31 pm
if he wants the Man City job in the future he wont get it by managing in Belgium. He needs to prove himself and there is no better place than at Burnley. Antiquated brexit hoofball old team (perceived) - if he can turn that around then the world is his oyster
The world is your lobster - Arthur Daley.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 24, 2022 7:35 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 7:17 pm
All the reports were that Kompany would take over if we remained in the PL but not if we were relegated.
I thought that it would be a bad move if that was his stance.
However, if he takes over with us being in the Championship and earns his stripes, then he will have my full support and more.
I'm all for a manager who is trying to prove himself rather than earning a crust or being in the spotlight.
Maybe it was linked more to Anderlechts push for the Champions League?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 24, 2022 7:38 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 7:34 pm
The world is your lobster - Arthur Daley.
:lol: :lol:

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue May 24, 2022 7:47 pm

If win percentage makes a manager, then you need look no further than Dyche's 35% win ratio with us.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by DCWat » Tue May 24, 2022 7:56 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 7:47 pm
If win percentage makes a manager, then you need look no further than Dyche's 35% win ratio with us.
The huge difference being that seven of those seasons were in the Premier League. The Kompany comparison being made because Anderlecht would, like us hopefully next season, be pushing for the top of their division.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by leelad » Tue May 24, 2022 8:01 pm

I like the idea of Kompany, but should we be looking at managers who have knowledge of how to compete in the Championship and what it takes to get promoted? It's a tough one. We all need a boost at the moment, VK is a big name in football, but then look at what happened when Chris Waddle became our manager all those years ago....

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by burnley007 » Tue May 24, 2022 8:14 pm

At least I would be excited about the Kompany appointment, much more so than other names suggested.

No idea how he would get on, but it would probably get fans back onside with Pace.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Guller Bull » Tue May 24, 2022 8:20 pm

It's an interesting one. Would you have taken Viera before this season?

He's done alright, not broken any pots but has established an identity.
Knutson would be my favourite of those named but I cant say I know too much about him.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Billy Balfour » Tue May 24, 2022 8:23 pm

Please let it be Kompany. He's not going to come here with bugger all money to spend because he'll want to make his mark. As someone said upthread, his appointment would go some way to ease the relegation pain. It would also show that the money supply hasn't dried up, because if, or when, it does, we are screwed.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 24, 2022 9:47 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 8:20 pm
It's an interesting one. Would you have taken Viera before this season?

He's done alright, not broken any pots but has established an identity.
Knutson would be my favourite of those named but I cant say I know too much about him.
Good point, no I wouldn’t. I thought he’d flop but he has done very well.

Knutsen also excites me, but likewise can’t say I’m knowledgable about Norwegian football. Bodo/Glimt are currently 5th & when you’re playing teams with names like HamKam and Jerv, I’m not sure it’s the strongest.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue May 24, 2022 9:50 pm

I don’t think there’s a chance of it happening now, but Id love it to be Vincent Kompany, if only for his potential to loan some of Man City’s youngsters.

I would imagine he’ll also know Ben Mee to some extent and could be a key figure in getting him to sign back on.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 24, 2022 9:54 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 8:23 pm
Please let it be Kompany. He's not going to come here with bugger all money to spend because he'll want to make his mark. As someone said upthread, his appointment would go some way to ease the relegation pain. It would also show that the money supply hasn't dried up, because if, or when, it does, we are screwed.
Can’t say I agree that it’ll mean we have money to spend. Not many clubs have a lot of money. Cash is distributed pretty evenly in the Prem, so they all have cash, but in other countries the money is usually monopolised by the top clubs. My point being there are a finite number of clubs with any cash and a lot of managers wanting to progress their careers.

He has no money at Anderlecht, Farke had very little at Norwich, Rooney nothing at Derby, Knutsen not a penny at Bodo/Glimt. So I’m not sure he’d only come here if we had cash, or that it means we do if he does.

I’d hope we’d go for managers/coaches that want to develop the players they have and bring through the youth though really.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by hoskinsgoalatswansea » Tue May 24, 2022 10:08 pm

Not impressed by those videos at all. I like to see a manager giving considered directions to the players. Perhaps, for example, talking about the opposition and areas he’s spotted in the first half that can be exploited, or where the other team have been gaining an advantage and how to stop it. Just ranting or threatening to play the u21’s next week is fairly poor for me.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Swizzlestick » Tue May 24, 2022 10:11 pm

hoskinsgoalatswansea wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 10:08 pm
Not impressed by those videos at all. I like to see a manager giving considered directions to the players. Perhaps, for example, talking about the opposition and areas he’s spotted in the first half that can be exploited, or where the other team have been gaining an advantage and how to stop it. Just ranting or threatening to play the u21’s next week is fairly poor for me.
Those rants look very much ‘for the cameras’ to me - there, probably more tactical stuff behind the scenes.

Though I would question why you’d allow that level of access in the first place. I’m not convinced anything good comes from it.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue May 24, 2022 10:21 pm

All depends on the programme editor or whoever does the final edit. Trying to make it watchable/compelling viewing for the neutral viewer.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue May 24, 2022 11:34 pm

What hasn’t been mentioned is Kompany’s wife is a Manc and may or may not have settled over there. They could be desperate for a move back to Manchester.

There are always many factors in these things. The interesting thing is that nobody else has really featured in the betting. We’ll see.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by conyoviejo » Tue May 24, 2022 11:41 pm

Tony Mowbray was seen in Burnley today. ;)

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Goobs » Tue May 24, 2022 11:56 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 11:41 pm
Tony Mowbray was seen in Burnley today. ;)
And Dave Burnley was spotted in Melton Mowbray.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by TsarBomba » Wed May 25, 2022 12:03 am

hoskinsgoalatswansea wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 10:08 pm
Not impressed by those videos at all. I like to see a manager giving considered directions to the players. Perhaps, for example, talking about the opposition and areas he’s spotted in the first half that can be exploited, or where the other team have been gaining an advantage and how to stop it. Just ranting or threatening to play the u21’s next week is fairly poor for me.
Players are loaded with tactical information during the week.

It’s proven on match day, either before a game or at half time, that players don’t absorb the same level of information.

Dyche has said plenty of times over the years that his pre match/half time team talks consisted of a few words or sentences, and that’s it.

I wouldn’t be reading too much in to what is said in the dressing room. The real work is on the training field.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by BabylonClaret » Wed May 25, 2022 12:24 am

Can't say I'm overly excited about Knutsen. He has done OK in Norway sure but has no experience in England or a major league and there's a huge huge difference between pushing a press and high energy in a competetive league like the Championship compared to one where they play almost half the number of games. Mind you we were all pretty 'meh' about the best manager we've had in my lifetime when he was appointed and I remember loads of people saying "Arsene who?"

Kompany is an interesting one though and would certainly generate a buzz

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Taffy on the wing » Wed May 25, 2022 5:26 am

Goobs wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 11:56 pm
And Dave Burnley was spotted in Melton Mowbray.
Make mine a large pork pie please! :D

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by eastcoastclaret » Wed May 25, 2022 6:28 am

Kompany odds now 1/5 on skybet

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed May 25, 2022 6:50 am

eastcoastclaret wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 6:28 am
Kompany odds now 1/5 on skybet
Quite a big move, he was 4/7 yesterday.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed May 25, 2022 7:35 am

1/3 now but others drifted

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by bumba » Wed May 25, 2022 7:36 am

If true Mee has signed maybe it was down to this appointment if it comes true, I'm sure he'll have massive respect for Kompany from there City connections.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed May 25, 2022 8:24 am

https://www.lalibre.be/sports/football/ ... 72E5OPVBM/

This article in the Belgian press wraps up by saying:

'It remains to be seen, too, if Kompany will still receive offers from abroad. According to English betting sites, Kompany remains the number 1 candidate to coach Burnley, despite his relegation to English D2. He is the highest rated coach, ahead of Joey Barton and Wayne Rooney. But according to our information, it is not in question. Burnley will soon appoint another coach than Kompany.'

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by AwayClaret » Wed May 25, 2022 8:29 am

I've already said I'd be surprised if it's Kompany and betting odds on these markets mean Jack **** most of the time. Not saying it won't happen but it will be a shock. A good shock like.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Shaggy » Wed May 25, 2022 8:39 am

TsarBomba wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 12:03 am
Players are loaded with tactical information during the week.

It’s proven on match day, either before a game or at half time, that players don’t absorb the same level of information.

Dyche has said plenty of times over the years that his pre match/half time team talks consisted of a few words or sentences, and that’s it.

I wouldn’t be reading too much in to what is said in the dressing room. The real work is on the training field.
It’s obvious the way we adapted *cough* during games tactically that Dyche didn’t do much during the games or indeed with subs.

Plan A. And if that failed then we weren’t getting the result. Whilst plan A kept our heads above the water for a period of time, it was obviously never going to keep us afloat without new ideas.

Regarding a new manager I like the sound of Carvahal. The way he talks about tactically trying to exploit space. That’s the kind of football I want to see. Not rigid framework pish and hoofing it up like a non leave side.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed May 25, 2022 8:44 am

Not sure why Kompany is so popular. He was a good player and may attract a one or two from Man City or abroad but what has he achieved as a manager ? I’d feel more confident we could achieve promotion with someone like Farje or the Hudds manager.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Billy Balfour » Wed May 25, 2022 8:49 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:54 pm
He has no money at Anderlecht, Farke had very little at Norwich, Rooney nothing at Derby, Knutsen not a penny at Bodo/Glimt. So I’m not sure he’d only come here if we had cash, or that it means we do if he does.
Fair point.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Gibbo » Wed May 25, 2022 9:31 am

Pace has a habit of pulling something out of left field. He has already mentioned on here, a Wouter Vrancken of Mechelen, finished 4th in the Belgium League, left the club at weekend and is now available. Previously linked with Barnsley. However there is a Burnley connection as Steven Defour is his assistant. I am surprised no one else picked after the previous mention, an exciting manager with experience, still young. I for one will be messaging Sky bet to see if they will give me odds.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by 7decades » Wed May 25, 2022 9:55 am

Sky bet currently 1/7 for us "to have company"

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 25, 2022 9:56 am

AwayClaret wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 8:29 am
I've already said I'd be surprised if it's Kompany and betting odds on these markets mean Jack **** most of the time. Not saying it won't happen but it will be a shock. A good shock like.
We have interviewed Kompany but there again we’ve probably interviewed others too. I know the betting doesn’t meant too much but I’ve just seen he’s gone 1/7 on Sky Bet, no one has had odds like that throughout.

Seemed to be all the talk in the stand at Villa that it would be Kompany if we stayed up.

Other than him and Wilder, who remains on the radar, I’ve not heard any other name really other than Allardyce which was immediately after Dyche went.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed May 25, 2022 9:59 am

1/7 surely means article prep time for you CT? :)
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Zom Zom » Wed May 25, 2022 10:03 am

Whoever it is, it needs to be ASAP. They will need time to address who is here, who they may want to persuade to stay and ultimately bring their own players in too. All this with a sooner than normal new season.

It could determine whether the likes of Cornet gives us a year in the Championship which could make all the difference. I was hoping we would have someone in place by now.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 25, 2022 10:09 am

Zom Zom wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:03 am
Whoever it is, it needs to be ASAP. They will need time to address who is here, who they may want to persuade to stay and ultimately bring their own players in too. All this with a sooner than normal new season.

It could determine whether the likes of Cornet gives us a year in the Championship which could make all the difference. I was hoping we would have someone in place by now.
That first sentence about it needing to be ASAP - much shorter close season and we are now just 66 days from our next league game.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed May 25, 2022 10:11 am

Now then…. 😂

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by AwayClaret » Wed May 25, 2022 10:11 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 9:56 am
We have interviewed Kompany but there again we’ve probably interviewed others too. I know the betting doesn’t meant too much but I’ve just seen he’s gone 1/7 on Sky Bet, no one has had odds like that throughout.

Seemed to be all the talk in the stand at Villa that it would be Kompany if we stayed up.

Other than him and Wilder, who remains on the radar, I’ve not heard any other name really other than Allardyce which was immediately after Dyche went.
If it is Kompany then can't see him coming unless he's been promised decent players funds. According to the "experts" on here 😃we don't have a pot to **** in 🤣

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by kenyon6923 » Wed May 25, 2022 10:12 am

Some of the biggest clubs in the world (Man Utd) don't always choose the right manager for their club, not on purpose of course, ideally like in the normal world you would like to test and trial over 13 weeks and see what jels. Utd now think they have their next messiah who goes into a season chasing a club they finished 12 wins behind and who have just signed one of the best strikers in the world !! good luck with that small task.
Sometimes a name works and sometimes they don't, same with a "non name" but in our case SD and Coyle worked wonders who probably at the time wasn't the bookies favs. But any manager coming in will the board be totally transparent with them ? as the fans don't seem to have the 100% picture. Also a manager wants to know what he's likely going to have to work with both in current players and transfer kitty - the 2 best players this season by a country mile were Tarks and Pope - one's gone - the other 75% will go particularly if he wants to make the world cup squad plus we might/might not need the money for loans/new players/Garlick etc etc etc thats not a good start.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed May 25, 2022 10:15 am

I don't know about anyone else, but I need more than 66 days before I'm ready for another football season

Jesus
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by distortiondave » Wed May 25, 2022 10:16 am

Jesus only had 40 days in the wilderness, not 66.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed May 25, 2022 10:17 am

AwayClaret wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:11 am
If it is Kompany then can't see him coming unless he's been promised decent players funds. According to the "experts" on here 😃we don't have a pot to **** in 🤣
Well no

I'm sure we will be ok for year 1, fineish for year 2, and then in big trouble for year 3 of championship football

As has already been mentioned, there is no way that a bloke who has taken over to essentially make money isn't going to make us sustainable for a prolonged period in the championship

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 25, 2022 10:18 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:15 am
I don't know about anyone else, but I need more than 66 days before I'm ready for another football season

Jesus
It’s usually around 13 weeks but with the World Cup added to us now starting a week earlier in the FL we are down to under ten weeks from Newcastle to first league game.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed May 25, 2022 10:20 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:18 am
It’s usually around 13 weeks but with the World Cup added to us now starting a week earlier in the FL we are down to under ten weeks from Newcastle to first league game.
I'd guess pre season will kick off maybe even late June this year then. We really could do with a manager announced by the weekend. Needs to start making inroads with recruitment including freebies, who others probably are already speaking to, but we have no chance on before a new man comes in.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed May 25, 2022 10:21 am

distortiondave wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:16 am
Jesus only had 40 days in the wilderness, not 66.
I think we are looking at more days than that DD

But as he's a figment of someones imagination I'm more worried about me!

AwayClaret
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by AwayClaret » Wed May 25, 2022 10:22 am

Interesting times 😃

Seriously the new manager needs bringing in now because there is a lot he'll need sorting out unless he's already started.

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