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Re: Kompany Rumours

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Fri May 27, 2022 8:53 pm

Sammy Bubbly wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 3:19 pm
What makes people think we will have Players from Manchester City?

Been thinking the same thing, people getting a little carried away rummaging through the City squad. Maybe the manager would like to prove he can do well without any favours?

Why would City just decide to let VK have his pick of their young players?

How many did he get on loan in Belgium? Is it anymore than Lampard has on loan from Chelsea or Villa had since Gerrard took over.

Calm down….!

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Re: Name the next managerial

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri May 27, 2022 8:53 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 8:31 pm
We certainly need a CM who can find a striker, that's for sure.
And hit a shot on target from 30yds.


I wouldn't even care if it was saved, just be nice to see.

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Re: Kompany. Paddy Power bets suspended

Post by BobHaidong » Fri May 27, 2022 9:01 pm

depechedingle wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 8:10 pm
What's Earnest got to do with it???? :lol:
According to Wikipedia, “Earnest is a ghost town in Farmington Township, Rooks County, Kansas, United States.”

So I assume it’s where we will be going for our training camp prior to our US based pre season tour.

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Re: Kompany. Paddy Power bets suspended

Post by DCWat » Fri May 27, 2022 9:29 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 4:57 pm
Looks like Vinny is to be our saviour!! Paddy power odds 1/9 !!
If bets are suspended, surely there wouldn’t be an odds of 1/9 quoted?

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Re: Name the next managerial

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 27, 2022 9:49 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 8:18 pm
Please excuse my ignorance but, who is Cullen ? What is do special about him......sorry but never heard of him.
I knew of the Cullen who had played in the lower leagues here but didn’t know it was the same one who was playing at Anderlecht.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Fri May 27, 2022 10:15 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 7:57 pm
Nixon saying we have won the race for Kompany and offered him same terms that were agreed for if we stayed up (2.5m a year) making him the highest paid manager in the Champ
One of the problems with Dyche was that he was paid too much and on too long a contract. It made him too comfortable. The risk for him is far less than for us. Not sure I’m keen on the approach of paying over the odds for too inexperienced a manager.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 27, 2022 10:22 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 7:57 pm
Nixon saying we have won the race for Kompany and offered him same terms that were agreed for if we stayed up (2.5m a year) making him the highest paid manager in the Champ
Quick out of the blocks there is Nixon telling us that we’ve won the race long after it all became obvious.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by claptrappers_union » Fri May 27, 2022 10:23 pm

Hearing the deal is off…….

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri May 27, 2022 10:24 pm

Oh yeh? Go on then…

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 27, 2022 10:25 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 10:15 pm
One of the problems with Dyche was that he was paid too much and on too long a contract. It made him too comfortable. The risk for him is far less than for us. Not sure I’m keen on the approach of paying over the odds for too inexperienced a manager.
The problem was Pace saying he was so important to us. That led to everything being in Dyche’s favour. He wasn’t necessarily of the mind to sign a new deal but then they came up with a huge four year deal.

I’m not sure it made him too comfortable because I don’t think that’s his way.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by arise_sir_charge » Fri May 27, 2022 10:32 pm

Ofcourse, giving Dyche the deal most folk wanted and which ultimately lead to Terence chants about “4 more years of anti-football” is all Pace’s fault. Seem to recall questioning it at the time and benign in the minority.

Alas, we all have a degree in hindsight.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Fri May 27, 2022 10:33 pm

Shouldn’t have offered him that deal and shouldn’t have sacked him when he did. In my opinion it should have been much sooner when there was no evidence of change on the pitch. It was so late though I’d have kept him on to try and get us back up. I think offering this kind of contract for someone unproven at this level is yet another strange decision.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Gaia » Fri May 27, 2022 10:49 pm

Kompany maybe after taking Shaun Maloney with him to Burnley who was sacked by Hibs

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18705213 ... ey-dundee/

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Fri May 27, 2022 11:18 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 10:15 pm
One of the problems with Dyche was that he was paid too much and on too long a contract. It made him too comfortable. The risk for him is far less than for us. Not sure I’m keen on the approach of paying over the odds for too inexperienced a manager.
Another problem was that Dyche was linked with pretty much every vacancy outside of the top 6 as they came up.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by arise_sir_charge » Fri May 27, 2022 11:20 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 11:18 pm
Another problem was that Dyche was linked with pretty much every vacancy outside of the top 6 as they came up.
Only on here, in reality barely anybody was ever genuinely interested,
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Fri May 27, 2022 11:24 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 11:20 pm
Only on here, in reality barely anybody was ever genuinely interested,
Ah ok, I didn’t know that was confirmed.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by rob63 » Fri May 27, 2022 11:33 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 10:32 pm
Ofcourse, giving Dyche the deal most folk wanted and which ultimately lead to Terence chants about “4 more years of anti-football” is all Pace’s fault. Seem to recall questioning it at the time and benign in the minority.

Alas, we all have a degree in hindsight.
Who's Terence?
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Re: Kompany. Paddy Power bets suspended

Post by rob63 » Fri May 27, 2022 11:35 pm

depechedingle wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 8:10 pm
What's Earnest got to do with it???? :lol:
He's very important, according to Oscar Wilde!

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by jtv » Sat May 28, 2022 5:50 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 11:20 pm
Only on here, in reality barely anybody was ever genuinely interested,
He was interviewed for the Crystal Palace job for sure.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by FeedTheArf » Sat May 28, 2022 7:03 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 10:25 pm
The problem was Pace saying he was so important to us. That led to everything being in Dyche’s favour. He wasn’t necessarily of the mind to sign a new deal but then they came up with a huge four year deal.

I’m not sure it made him too comfortable because I don’t think that’s his way.
Pace knew the fans loved Dyche so put a lot of importance on getting a deal done, thinking it would help ALK get the fans on side.

Prior to this season I might have agreed with that, but I’m not sure there’s another club in the world that would give a manager a 4 year deal when the team were performing so badly. From reports that have come out since, Dyche was open to leaving at the end of last season and things had gone stale (dare I say, comfort zone??!), so surely a rolling 12 month deal would suit all parties. I can’t see the sense in offering a 4 year deal to a manager of a club in the relegation zone. Though as others have said, hindsight is a wonderful thing!
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Longsider » Sat May 28, 2022 7:12 am

claptrappers_union wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 10:23 pm
Hearing the deal is off…….
Source?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Zlatan » Sat May 28, 2022 7:13 am

Longsider wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 7:12 am
Source?
Brown…

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Sat May 28, 2022 7:19 am

Longsider wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 7:12 am
Source?
Ignore him, been on the wind up for a while
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by claptrappers_union » Sat May 28, 2022 8:09 am

The deal is still on.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Pearcey » Sat May 28, 2022 9:44 am

He’s doing the VK Hokey Cokey.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 28, 2022 9:45 am

FeedTheArf wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 7:03 am
Pace knew the fans loved Dyche so put a lot of importance on getting a deal done, thinking it would help ALK get the fans on side.

Prior to this season I might have agreed with that, but I’m not sure there’s another club in the world that would give a manager a 4 year deal when the team were performing so badly. From reports that have come out since, Dyche was open to leaving at the end of last season and things had gone stale (dare I say, comfort zone??!), so surely a rolling 12 month deal would suit all parties. I can’t see the sense in offering a 4 year deal to a manager of a club in the relegation zone. Though as others have said, hindsight is a wonderful thing!
I don’t think Dyche’s relationship with the fans had anything to do with it. I thought it was the right decision to look at a new deal but I was stunned when that became four years.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by bfcjg » Sat May 28, 2022 9:54 am

I think the 4 year deal was done in the hope someone would come in for him and we'd get a whack of compensation.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat May 28, 2022 11:16 am

I hear Phelan is going to be relieved of his duties in a shake up by Ten Hag, or whatever his name is.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Firthy » Sat May 28, 2022 11:25 am

Funkydrummer wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 11:16 am
I hear Phelan is going to be relieved of his duties in a shake up by Ten Hag, or whatever his name is.
Get him in as assistant. We can loan players from both Manchester teams then 🤔😅

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat May 28, 2022 12:19 pm

Strange one is Phelan.

Goes from Fergies no.2 to coaching at Burnley college, back to coaching at Utd.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Foshiznik » Sat May 28, 2022 12:21 pm

Firthy wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 11:25 am
Get him in as assistant. We can loan players from both Manchester teams then 🤔😅
Exactly… what’s Kenny Dalglish up to?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat May 28, 2022 12:34 pm

Let’s hope he’s not Chris Waddle mark 2.

Must say I’m not convinced by him, happy to be proved wrong though.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Top Claret » Sat May 28, 2022 1:02 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 9:54 am
I think the 4 year deal was done in the hope someone would come in for him and we'd get a whack of compensation.

I can't think of any premier league club that would want Dyche, he is tarnished by his style of football and no championship clubs could afford his salary or compensation

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Steddyman » Sat May 28, 2022 1:38 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 1:02 pm
I can't think of any premier league club that would want Dyche, he is tarnished by his style of football and no championship clubs could afford his salary or compensation
I agree. His only chance is as a last ditch attempt to stay up in a relegation battle ala BFS, but I think he has proven his results take time and also are not as successful as BFS's attempts

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Spijed » Sat May 28, 2022 1:47 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 12:34 pm
Let’s hope he’s not Chris Waddle mark 2.

Must say I’m not convinced by him, happy to be proved wrong though.
It's impossible to be sure about any manager who hasn't got a previous track record in English football.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Spijed » Sat May 28, 2022 1:51 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 1:38 pm
I agree. His only chance is as a last ditch attempt to stay up in a relegation battle ala BFS, but I think he has proven his results take time and also are not as successful as BFS's attempts
Moyes is a good example of becoming re-employable. When he got sacked at West Ham previously few would have touched him with a barge pole. And it was only because West Ham were desperate for a manager he got a second chance. Yet look how he's managed to turn his career around.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 28, 2022 4:50 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 11:16 am
I hear Phelan is going to be relieved of his duties in a shake up by Ten Hag, or whatever his name is.
Didn’t that happen last week?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 28, 2022 4:50 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 1:51 pm
Moyes is a good example of becoming re-employable. When he got sacked at West Ham previously few would have touched him with a barge pole. And it was only because West Ham were desperate for a manager he got a second chance. Yet look how he's managed to turn his career around.
Did a good job first time round at West Ham. Crazy decision to sack him.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat May 28, 2022 5:51 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 1:38 pm
I agree. His only chance is as a last ditch attempt to stay up in a relegation battle ala BFS, but I think he has proven his results take time and also are not as successful as BFS's attempts
It took Sam it took him 2 seasons to get Bolton promoted to the PL and that coincided with Eddie Davies joining the board before becoming full owner in 03, which is when they started finishing top 10 regularly.

In regards to keeping clubs up, he's generally successful if he's got a full transfer window to throw money around in.
Big Sam is a cheque book manager when it comes to avoiding relegation quite simply.

Dyche got us promoted in his first full season and again at the first attempt after we came back down and kept us up for 5 years straight then with a lot less money in comparison

They're different types of managers

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sat May 28, 2022 5:56 pm

I personally think Dyche will end up with the England set up, a little similar to Ady Boothroyd but probably a higher position. He is a very astute person and think an international role would suit him
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by jedi_master » Sat May 28, 2022 6:08 pm

Some ‘Journo’ (with 0 followers, of course) is saying that Floribert Ngagula and Rodiese Muniege are coming from Anderlecht backroom team with Kompany.

Source: @DenzilSpears

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Blakesboots » Sat May 28, 2022 6:19 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Fri May 27, 2022 11:20 pm
Only on here, in reality barely anybody was ever genuinely interested,
There was genuine interest from a number of premier league clubs and some very ambitious championship clubs through this tenure.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Blakesboots » Sat May 28, 2022 6:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 4:50 pm
Did a good job first time round at West Ham. Crazy decision to sack him.
I do wonder where United would be today if they’d kept with Moyes.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat May 28, 2022 6:34 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 5:56 pm
I personally think Dyche will end up with the England set up, a little similar to Ady Boothroyd but probably a higher position. He is a very astute person and think an international role would suit him
Didn't he spend some time with England youth inbetween leaving Watford and joining us?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Sat May 28, 2022 8:10 pm

Mr Kompany in the Aspinall Arms this evening (beautiful venue btw)

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Sat May 28, 2022 8:13 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 8:10 pm
Mr Kompany in the Aspinall Arms this evening (beautiful venue btw)
Haha just booked to go tomorrow, hope he’s going back for Sunday lunch.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat May 28, 2022 8:22 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 8:10 pm
Mr Kompany in the Aspinall Arms this evening (beautiful venue btw)
Just seen a picture of him on Twitter in a boozer …not sure where mind you

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat May 28, 2022 8:34 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sat May 28, 2022 8:22 pm
Just seen a picture of him on Twitter in a boozer …not sure where mind you
He’s in Whalley… must be having a tour of Dyches old gaff…!
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Sat May 28, 2022 8:48 pm

Looks like that pic is a fake, someone has done a pretty good photoshop.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat May 28, 2022 8:54 pm

Mrs W is currently out in Clitheroe. I’ll ask her to keep a look out for him 😆

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