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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Zom Zom » Tue May 31, 2022 11:12 am

Murger wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 9:20 am
Luton Shelton didn't get a permit either.
Though he did end up at Sheffield United

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue May 31, 2022 11:15 am

If he ain’t announced today I’ll start to panic

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue May 31, 2022 11:23 am

DCWat wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:46 pm
One of the best defenders, ever? He was good but I’m not convinced he would make the top five (maybe even top ten) defenders to have played in the Premier League, let alone the English top division or looking outside of England.

Whether or not he was one of the best defenders ever, shouldn’t be a consideration for him to be granted a work permit for a different role.
It was Van Dijk this week who named Kompany second best ever in the PL, behind Ferdinand, who Van Dijk was doing the interview with. That seems to be the esteem in which Kompany is held, I see that as valuable as a manager in attracting players, inspiring them and teaching them.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Venkys4eva » Tue May 31, 2022 11:24 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 9:53 am
Well, if I voted for Brexit, I'd definitely have voted for no work permit issues for perspective Burnley managers
Still rattling on about brexit, pathetic
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by pureclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 11:26 am

cant see kompany coming now !!

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by mkmel » Tue May 31, 2022 11:28 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 10:12 am
Burnley were never going to pay wages in May.

He starts in June.
2022 or 2023?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 11:31 am

Venkys4eva wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 11:24 am
Still rattling on about brexit, pathetic
Oh and go and hug your blue passport

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 11:35 am

Nothing positive or negative to report from the twittersphere by the way

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Pearcey » Tue May 31, 2022 11:42 am

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32k followers and posted today. I’ve not seen anything to suggest this isn’t happening other than people’s gut feelings. It’ll soon be VK day.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 11:47 am

I don't know the bloke at all, but I think he might be one of those that sets a great store in what he says, and if he's said he's coming, then he's coming

Course, I might well be wrong, but that is the impression of him when he was a player

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Juan Tanamera » Tue May 31, 2022 11:48 am

pureclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 11:26 am
cant see kompany coming now !!

Are you looking in the right direction?
Last time I looked he was over there. ➡️
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 11:52 am

Not looking like there’ll be anything today. Would be some sort of noise somewhere by now.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue May 31, 2022 11:54 am

See Duncan Ferguson is being linked to replace Mowbray

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by jedi_master » Tue May 31, 2022 11:56 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 11:54 am
See Duncan Ferguson is being linked to replace Mowbray
I’d like to laugh at it but I’ll wait to see what happens with us first.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue May 31, 2022 11:58 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 11:52 am
Not looking like there’ll be anything today. Would be some sort of noise somewhere by now.
Was just thinking it seemed particularly quiet on the social media this morning, more so than usual, which may suggest otherwise. Who knows?

I know I was told by someone who works there yesterday that something might happen today.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue May 31, 2022 12:00 pm

It’s a shame, I loved Big Dunc as a player but once a *******, always a *******.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue May 31, 2022 12:09 pm

Big Dunc can only wind the players up for so long. Unless he takes a tactician with him as coach.

The Everton fans I speak to wanted him gone after our game. They think he's more there to appease fans with the ex player link than what he offers as a coach.

Although he did turn down the opportunity of going to Madrid with Carlo. Not sure if he was coach or bodyguard?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 12:21 pm

Alex James saying nothing pointing towards anything going south but doesn’t look like anywhere close to announcement

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue May 31, 2022 12:34 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 12:21 pm
Alex James saying nothing pointing towards anything going south but doesn’t look like anywhere close to announcement
Wtf is going on

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by jedi_master » Tue May 31, 2022 12:37 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 12:21 pm
Alex James saying nothing pointing towards anything going south but doesn’t look like anywhere close to announcement
Time is moving swiftly, swiftly on with an absolute lorry load of stuff to sort out. If he can’t be in the building in the next couple of days we should look elsewhere. We could be waiting on him for weeks more and then he leaves us even in further in the lurch by taking a gig elsewhere.

We barely have a squad, barely have any coaching staff and we have lots of contract issues to sort out with the remnants of what is left over from last season. This has dragged on long enough.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue May 31, 2022 12:40 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 12:37 pm
Time is moving swiftly, swiftly on with an absolute lorry load of stuff to sort out. If he can’t be in the building in the next couple of days we should look elsewhere. We could be waiting on him for weeks more and then he leaves us even in further in the lurch by taking a gig elsewhere.

We barely have a squad, barely have any coaching staff and we have lots of contract issues to sort out with the remnants of what is left over from last season. This has dragged on long enough.
Im sure the club's plethora of experienced football administrators are working tirelessly to bring the situation to a succesful conclusion.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Smile » Tue May 31, 2022 12:41 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 12:21 pm
Alex James saying nothing pointing towards anything going south but doesn’t look like anywhere close to announcement
Back in after a long weekend, will attempt to provide a bit of clarity on Burnley & Kompany. Everything pointing to him and nothing to suggest things have gone south so working on a no news is good news at the mo. But doesn't seem close to an announcement. #twitterclarets

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue May 31, 2022 12:44 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 12:37 pm
Time is moving swiftly, swiftly on with an absolute lorry load of stuff to sort out. If he can’t be in the building in the next couple of days we should look elsewhere. We could be waiting on him for weeks more and then he leaves us even in further in the lurch by taking a gig elsewhere.

We barely have a squad, barely have any coaching staff and we have lots of contract issues to sort out with the remnants of what is left over from last season. This has dragged on long enough.
What if it’s the club moving slowly and not Kompany?

I’d much rather it all be done and dusted now, but there are multiple suggestions he’s already working so I think everyone just needs to calm down a bit.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by jedi_master » Tue May 31, 2022 12:49 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 12:44 pm
What if it’s the club moving slowly and not Kompany?

I’d much rather it all be done and dusted now, but there are multiple suggestions he’s already working so I think everyone just needs to calm down a bit.
It could well be the case Arise (r.e, it being an administrative formality/club delay to get media stuff sorted for an ‘unveiling’ etc), but in the absence of knowledge, and with the multitude of very important stuff to sort out with our first team, I think we cannot hang about too long. There is absolutely nothing stopping Kompany taking a gig elsewhere if something more appealing (Monchengladbach etc) presents itself whilst we’re waiting for X, Y, Z.

I just think that unless we have an absolute signed, sealed guarantee on Kompany coming in, that the club needs both a cut-off point and a plan B (we may well do, you’d hope so).

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 12:56 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 12:44 pm
What if it’s the club moving slowly and not Kompany?

I’d much rather it all be done and dusted now, but there are multiple suggestions he’s already working so I think everyone just needs to calm down a bit.
The concern is that we are a week and a half post relegation and we’ve heard literally zilch from the club, and that we are less than 3 weeks from returning to pre season training, with half a squad and no manager. While I do think Kompany will join, it’s also a bit worrying why it’s taking so long (suggestions a deal was agreed 5 days ago).

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by brexit » Tue May 31, 2022 1:00 pm

Venkys4eva wrote:
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Still rattling on about brexit, pathetic
I am overwhelmed by the support I am receiving today :mrgreen:

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Pickles » Tue May 31, 2022 1:00 pm

Diego Martinez, who was loosely discussed on here as an option for us, has just been announced as Espanyol manager.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue May 31, 2022 1:01 pm

The club haven't even released their retained list 9 days after the season.

BlakesBoots suggested 4 days is the proper procedure.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 1:02 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:01 pm
The club haven't even released their retained list 9 days after the season.

BlakesBoots suggested 4 days is the proper procedure.
Think I read a lancs live or Burnley express article that said we had sent it to the PL. Not sure if we are obligated to make it public or not.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by beddie » Tue May 31, 2022 1:11 pm

I really hope VK is coming, I imagine CT will have that many headings lined up ready for his article he’s still undecided which one to use. We don’t want them wasted do we. :D

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Stayingup » Tue May 31, 2022 1:21 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 11:31 am
Oh and go and hug your blue passport
Right or not one good thing from it is listening to the whining of people like you. Its hilarious.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Eloise Laws » Tue May 31, 2022 1:23 pm

How long did Utd new manager take to get a work permit……just wondering

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 1:25 pm

Eloise Laws wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:23 pm
How long did Utd new manager take to get a work permit……just wondering
They announced him on a Monday and had work permit accepted / announced on the Thursday - that was Rangnick. Not sure on the new one.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by agreenwood » Tue May 31, 2022 1:27 pm

Eloise Laws wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:23 pm
How long did Utd new manager take to get a work permit……just wondering
Dunno, but Ralf Rangnick had to wait a week for his and he was unable to coach United in the game initially earmarked to be his first in charge.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 31, 2022 1:31 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:02 pm
Think I read a lancs live or Burnley express article that said we had sent it to the PL. Not sure if we are obligated to make it public or not.
It’s absolutely astonishing that nine days after the last game we have not heard one word from the club. We’ve allowed Tanya Bardsley to tell the world that Phil’s leaving, there have been suggestions that Dale Stephens hasn’t been offered anything. Both those were obvious but not a word.

We used to announce the academy retained list around early April. We know it’s been done with some of the young players leaving immediately and some continuing to play but again not a word.

What a shambles.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 1:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:31 pm
It’s absolutely astonishing that nine days after the last game we have not heard one word from the club. We’ve allowed Tanya Bardsley to tell the world that Phil’s leaving, there have been suggestions that Dale Stephens hasn’t been offered anything. Both those were obvious but not a word.

We used to announce the academy retained list around early April. We know it’s been done with some of the young players leaving immediately and some continuing to play but again not a word.

What a shambles.
The only rational explanation is that they wanted to get the new manager in and announced first. Clearly there’s been a delay in this, possibly work permit related, who knows. Any update on that front?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue May 31, 2022 1:41 pm

Retained list should have been submitted on 26th May...I'm assuming still to the Premier League ?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Jamesy » Tue May 31, 2022 1:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:31 pm
It’s absolutely astonishing that nine days after the last game we have not heard one word from the club. We’ve allowed Tanya Bardsley to tell the world that Phil’s leaving, there have been suggestions that Dale Stephens hasn’t been offered anything. Both those were obvious but not a word.

We used to announce the academy retained list around early April. We know it’s been done with some of the young players leaving immediately and some continuing to play but again not a word.

What a shambles.
Shambles? It’s not that good Tony.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 31, 2022 1:47 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:41 pm
Retained list should have been submitted on 26th May...I'm assuming still to the Premier League ?
Apparently was but not a word publicly.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 31, 2022 1:47 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:44 pm
Shambles? It’s not that good Tony.
You’re right, it’s not.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by SalouClaret » Tue May 31, 2022 1:47 pm

Wouldn't surprise me if Kompany has been in charge for 5 days and the club haven't bothered announcing it :D

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Jamesy » Tue May 31, 2022 1:48 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:41 pm
The only rational explanation is that they wanted to get the new manager in and announced first. Clearly there’s been a delay in this, possibly work permit related, who knows. Any update on that front?
It could be as I said on the other Kompany thread yesterday? He probably wants assurances prior to agreeing terms. These assurances will more than likely be linked to Pace securing additional funding which he doesn’t seem to have achieved thus far.
Cannot see what else could be holding the deal up other than Kompany mulling over better options?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 31, 2022 1:50 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:41 pm
The only rational explanation is that they wanted to get the new manager in and announced first. Clearly there’s been a delay in this, possibly work permit related, who knows. Any update on that front?
We’ve not had a word on a new manager since the day Dyche was sacked other than Michael Jackson confirming he was doing the next match.

I’ve no idea what’s going on in terms of anything but appointing a Belgian manager was always subject to us getting a work permit.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by SalouClaret » Tue May 31, 2022 1:51 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:48 pm
It could be as I said on the other Kompany thread yesterday? He probably wants assurances prior to agreeing terms. These assurances will more than likely be linked to Pace securing additional funding which he doesn’t seem to have achieved thus far.
Cannot see what else could be holding the deal up other than Kompany mulling over better options?
I think you're reading too much into it.

Hopefully anyway!

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue May 31, 2022 1:52 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:48 pm
It could be as I said on the other Kompany thread yesterday? He probably wants assurances prior to agreeing terms. These assurances will more than likely be linked to Pace securing additional funding which he doesn’t seem to have achieved thus far.
Cannot see what else could be holding the deal up other than Kompany mulling over better options?
You cannot see what else is holding the deal up? You mean apart from the small matter of a work permit?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 1:52 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 1:48 pm
It could be as I said on the other Kompany thread yesterday? He probably wants assurances prior to agreeing terms. These assurances will more than likely be linked to Pace securing additional funding which he doesn’t seem to have achieved thus far.
Cannot see what else could be holding the deal up other than Kompany mulling over better options?
I personally can’t see that to be the case. Securing of additional funding is too arbitrary, who knows when and if it may happen. And I’m pretty sure we wouldn’t agree to this with pre season 3 weeks away.

Purely going off information from CT, Boden and Nixon - it seems that the whole work permit issue is what is holding it up. Whether that’s with himself or his staff.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by daveisaclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 1:54 pm

I've been as critical of Pace and his lot as anyone but from the outside looking in it does seem most likely that the delay is just administrative.

What's absolutely rotten as others have said is the communication. As a wise man once said "The really important thing is to keep the communication. We have to do a really good job of sharing things that are happening so they feel part of it"

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Culmclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 1:54 pm

Has the fat lady stopped singing yet……

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 2:02 pm

From Alex James’ latest piece in the Lancs Live:

‘Burnley remain set to appoint Vincent Kompany as their new manager although details still need to be finalised.

The Belgian remains likely to take over at Turf Moor but nothing is expected to be confirmed today and it may well stretch into next week. Reports have suggested Kompany and any potential backroom staff he wants to bring with him from Anderlecht require work permits for the UK and while the Clarets remain confident of securing the 36-year-old, any announcement is not imminent.’

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by KRBFC » Tue May 31, 2022 2:02 pm

The communication has never been as bad, the first week he couldn't stop talking, once the negative press came about the finances, Pace has barely said a word about anything. His Twitter account isn't even used.
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