Hypothetically, you inherit a fortune buy the club would you have Dyche back ??

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Hypothetically, you inherit a fortune buy the club would you have Dyche back ??

Post by bfcjg » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:38 pm

For me yes in a heartbeat, once he has chilled out, maybe reassessed his playing philosophy and given some serious money , he is a top manager and I just would love to see him benefit from the academy and Gawthorpe ylin which he was so selfless in asking the club to divert money to when we got our first promotion.
I have been critical of his tactics and team selections but as supporters it's what we do. It won't quite be the same without him.
For the record there is F all chance of me inheriting anything .

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:40 pm

Big no from me, great memories, he has done so much for us. But like Wenger, he has overstayed his welcome. Football is a results business, and he hasnt been getting results, or even really getting us off our seats too much, Cornet has done that, a player he didnt want
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Post by Rowls » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:42 pm

Yes

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:44 pm

A fortune?
If I had a fortune big enough I'd buy Man City and shut it down.
With what I had left I'd get the unemployed Guardiola in.
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Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:44 pm

Yes utc

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:45 pm

I am sure I would ask, but by then he will be managing a bigger club with more money, so like the snake island lads said to the Warsaw. “. “

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:45 pm

Nope.

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Post by Paul Waine » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:46 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:38 pm
For me yes in a heartbeat, once he has chilled out, maybe reassessed his playing philosophy and given some serious money , he is a top manager and I just would love to see him benefit from the academy and Gawthorpe ylin which he was so selfless in asking the club to divert money to when we got our first promotion.
I have been critical of his tactics and team selections but as supporters it's what we do. It won't quite be the same without him.
For the record there is F all chance of me inheriting anything .
How much do you have in mind? You need to be a billionaire (several billions) to keep a club in the Premier League.

No, I wouldn't get Sean Dyche back. Someone younger, more ambitions for the club they (she or he) manage.

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Post by TonbridgeClaret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:47 pm

No way.

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Post by box_of_frogs » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:48 pm

No

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Post by bob-the-scutter » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:49 pm

In a heartbeat!

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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:49 pm

describe "fortune"

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Post by Wo Didi » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:57 pm

No

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Post by bfcjg » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:00 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:46 pm
How much do you have in mind? You need to be a billionaire (several billions) to keep a club in the Premier League.

No, I wouldn't get Sean Dyche back. Someone younger, more ambitions for the club they (she or he) manage.
Certainly a dam sight more than Pace and ALK.
Sod the amount though it's the question it is hypothetical.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:02 pm

Any fortune is more than the minus 200 million we have today.

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Post by Steddyman » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:02 pm

Never

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Post by Paul Waine » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:09 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:02 pm
Any fortune is more than the minus 200 million we have today.
How'd you make minus £200 million?

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:10 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:44 pm
A fortune?
If I had a fortune big enough I'd buy Man City and shut it down.
With what I had left I'd get the unemployed Guardiola in.
Trying to play it out from the back and across the 6 yard box with the likes of Pope and Mee?

Pep-e Le Pew!

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Post by Nonayforever » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:10 pm

A big no.
If I could buy the club for £10 I wouldn't have him back.
He's bored the pants off me for the last 2 years.

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:11 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:10 pm
Trying to play it out from the back and across the 6 yard box with the likes of Pope and Mee?

Pep-e Le Pew!
No, I'd tell them to hoof it up the middle and try to win the second ball. :D

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Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:16 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:11 pm
No, I'd tell them to hoof it up the middle and try to win the second ball. :D
Bill's Board Out! :D
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Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:33 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:09 pm
How'd you make minus £200 million?
Well that’s how much Pace paid.

If we had money in the bank that was used to buy use, it was money we had.

Pace put in 15 million.
He owes the rest.

So you argue it’s 185 million.

Still not. Debt we ever had before.

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Post by burnleymik » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:51 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:33 pm
Well that’s how much Pace paid.

If we had money in the bank that was used to buy use, it was money we had.

Pace put in 15 million.
He owes the rest.

So you argue it’s 185 million.

Still not. Debt we ever had before.
You know the full finances of the club?

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Post by Paul Waine » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:55 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:33 pm
Well that’s how much Pace paid.

If we had money in the bank that was used to buy use, it was money we had.

Pace put in 15 million.
He owes the rest.

So you argue it’s 185 million.

Still not. Debt we ever had before.

Except there's a big part of the £170m price to buy 84% of the club hasn't been paid. Maybe a lot of that will not need to be paid if the team is relegated.

And, there are others who are guarantors for repayment of MSD's £60m loan. Yes, secured on club assets but not only secured on the club's assets.

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Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:27 pm

No.

He's gone.

Move on.

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Post by colne-claret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:28 pm

No chance.

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Post by thelaughingclaret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:32 pm

No. I am A Burnley fc supporter not a Dyche fc supporter.
For me it is UTC not UTD.
Time we moved on. May as well get Mullen or Stan back if we are basing how good a manger for our current situation on what they did for us in the past.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:34 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:55 pm
Except there's a big part of the £170m price to buy 84% of the club hasn't been paid. Maybe a lot of that will not need to be paid if the team is relegated.

And, there are others who are guarantors for repayment of MSD's £60m loan. Yes, secured on club assets but not only secured on the club's assets.
Paul you can paint it in a positive light as much as you like. But we owe sh1t loads of money we never did before.

You can spin we will not need to pay it if we are relegated, sorry I dealt with Americans. What they are is very savvy on financial deals.
In the end BFC will be screwed.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:35 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:51 pm
You know the full finances of the club?
No, but enough to know we are screwed.

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Post by ClaretMov » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:21 am

No Nay Never

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Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Apr 16, 2022 6:25 am

Time to move on

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Post by SouthLondonexile » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:02 am

I’m guessing he wouldn’t want to come back. New horizons beckon. Anyone who can spend just £460,000 and get a club promoted into the Premier League, and then get them back there for six seasons has to be talented and treasured. The world is his Oyster.

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Post by Bosscat » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:20 am

Question... How do you make a small fortune from buying a Football Club.

Answer... Start with a large fortune

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:51 am

I don't think anyone could spend their own money on dull football, lots complain after spending the price of a match ticket.
If I was putting 20m a season in I would expect prime Barcelona.

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Post by Paul Waine » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:57 am

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:34 pm
Paul you can paint it in a positive light as much as you like. But we owe sh1t loads of money we never did before.

You can spin we will not need to pay it if we are relegated, sorry I dealt with Americans. What they are is very savvy on financial deals.
In the end BFC will be screwed.
Goodness, Lowbank, you say I'm "paint[ing] in a positive light" while you also admit that the £200m you quote is wrong. I've no idea which Americans you've dealt with, most people who are "savvy on financial deals" will know what the correct numbers are.

I know you are referring to BFC when you say "we owe.." but, at worst BFC is only on the hook for the MSD £60m if others default. No way does BFC have to pay any of the rest of your "£200m" which is the shares money not yet paid to ex-directors. Those guys will simply not get paid that money, because that's the outcome of the deal they did.

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Post by claret2018 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:06 am

Jesus this forum needs to get a grip 😂

He’s gone man, let it go.
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Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:10 am

burnleymik wrote:
Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:51 pm
You know the full finances of the club?
Based on that post he’s arguably the most clueless bloke on the board :lol:

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Post by claretandbluesky » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:11 am

Does sound like the right move, probably needed some time ago.
Not just about Dyche but the whole coaching staff.

The spark was missing, we were barely firing on two cylinders at times.

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Post by Targetman » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:15 am

claret2018 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:06 am
Jesus this forum needs to get a grip 😂

He’s gone man, let it go.
I seem to recall that you were doing plenty of ranting about wanting him out recently......I will never go to Turf Moor again while he is manager........

Then you tell other people to get a grip!?! :D

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:28 am

I’d love to see him manage a club with spending power, just to see how good he is.
With no money it was all being pragmatic and until this season it worked for him and us.
As they say you can’t sing the same song to the same audience and with our very slow player turnover rate that is what has happened.
Our number of OOCs at season end hasn’t helped I blame ALK for this as I can understand them wanting to freshen the squad up but too many players are looking to their future instead of concentrating on the now.

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Post by Darthlaw » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:35 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:28 am
I’d love to see him manage a club with spending power, just to see how good he is.
With no money it was all being pragmatic and until this season it worked for him and us.
As they say you can’t sing the same song to the same audience and with our very slow player turnover rate that is what has happened.
Our number of OOCs at season end hasn’t helped I blame ALK for this as I can understand them wanting to freshen the squad up but too many players are looking to their future instead of concentrating on the now.
IMO, that’s where he’ll get found out.

Big money on players like Vydra, Gibson, Hendrick, Brady has been paid out for not much return has always left seeds of doubt with me.

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