What Chants are Acceptable?

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What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by Rowls » Mon May 09, 2022 6:15 pm

A Tottenham fans group has condemned the singing of the traditional "Sign On" chant that is routinely aimed at scousers up and down the country.

Apparently the chant is not what "Tottenham are about" and they are "better" than that.

At what point does a chant become unacceptably bad taste and when does condemning something intended as part of the mickey-taking between rival fans become po-faced?

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by claretburns » Mon May 09, 2022 6:25 pm

I read this earlier and thought it was ridiculous.

Ironically, the area where Tottenham Stadium is based has the highest unemployment rate in the country.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by elwaclaret » Mon May 09, 2022 6:41 pm

“You are not very good (at football) and you know you or (rather your team) are not.”

“Who the flipping heck are you?”

“Your so not as good as us its unbelievable”

“Come in a taxi, you must have come in a taxi, or other forms of ecologically sound public transport… posssibly”

Quite right o Tottenham to condemn it though. The richest capitol in the world with subsidised public transport systems taking the Micky out of any Northern poverty is more than a little rich; after the establishment has reorientated all the wealth from the North, that made the country vastly wealthy; to the South for their benefit.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by NRC » Mon May 09, 2022 6:48 pm

I would suggest we consider our own chants first, before commenting on those from other clubs.
- Full of breasts, vaginas and clarets
- till we play fatherless Rovers....

trip off the tongue, don't they?
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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by claret2018 » Mon May 09, 2022 6:54 pm

How about sitting quietly and watching the game with your dignity in tact

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by Bosscat » Mon May 09, 2022 6:59 pm

NRC wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 6:48 pm
I would suggest we consider our own chants first, before commenting on those from other clubs.
- Full of breasts, vaginas and clarets
- till we play fatherless Rovers....

trip off the tongue, don't they?
Similarly the "Jack Walker is no longer on this earth" chant could do with consigning to the bin too
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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by elwaclaret » Mon May 09, 2022 7:02 pm

NRC wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 6:48 pm
I would suggest we consider our own chants first, before commenting on those from other clubs.
- Full of breasts, vaginas and clarets
- till we play fatherless Rovers....

trip off the tongue, don't they?
Agree 100% the first makes my skin crawl.
Disagree 100% with you opposition to the second. That is 100% what the rivalry is about - Burnley/Blackburn rivalry even got a special mention in the MofD 10 Best Derbies… despite it has barely happened in the Premier. All three pundits admitted that our Derby is a bit special. NO PROBLEM AT ALL…. ******* Rovers, the exception that proves/tests the rule.
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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by turbo5 » Mon May 09, 2022 7:04 pm

All depends what triggers you and those around in. In todays PC world anything can be deemed offensive. In the early 80's on the Longside I doubt anything was taboo. Race , Man Utd disaster, Welsh slag heap disaster even Nazi salutes etc , I think I have heard it all. Even today we sing about a dead local business business dying on a carpet, Female genitals and numerous swear words. I have been taking my lad on since he was 4-5 and he has learned what's said on the Turf stays on the Turf. For me personally OTT is about race, sexual orientation or anything to do with kids. I am far from being PC but they needs to limits, a bit of swearing and banter is fine for me.People with young kids who don't want them exposed to this or sensitive people tend to stay away from the CF stand or the CF /JH end near the tunnel.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by elwaclaret » Mon May 09, 2022 7:12 pm

turbo5 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 7:04 pm
All depends what triggers you and those around in. In todays PC world anything can be deemed offensive. In the early 80's on the Longside I doubt anything was taboo. Race , Man Utd disaster, Welsh slag heap disaster even Nazi salutes etc , I think I have heard it all. Even today we sing about a dead local business business dying on a carpet, Female genitals and numerous swear words. I have been taking my lad on since he was 4-5 and he has learned what's said on the Turf stays on the Turf. For me personally OTT is about race, sexual orientation or anything to do with kids. I am far from being PC but they needs to limits, a bit of swearing and banter is fine for me.People with young kids who don't want them exposed to this or sensitive people tend to stay away from the CF stand or the CF /JH end near the tunnel.
Never liked the Bill Fox song. I met him as a schoolboy and he was a really really nice bloke, he laughed like hell when he asked who my favourite player was and I replied “Billy Hamilton” (as a guest of Blackburn Rovers).

The seventies were a different time, though for many of your examples… yes they did all those things, but the vast majority were completely ignorant of the world outside Burnley, other than in the press. We forget that we were all far more ignorant then, in everything except local socialisation and manners.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by claretburns » Mon May 09, 2022 7:24 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 7:02 pm
Agree 100% the first makes my skin crawl.
Disagree 100% with you opposition to the second. That is 100% what the rivalry is about - Burnley/Blackburn rivalry even got a special mention in the MofD 10 Best Derbies… despite it has barely happened in the Premier. All three pundits admitted that our Derby is a bit special. NO PROBLEM AT ALL…. ******* Rovers, the exception that proves/tests the rule.
I didn't realise we got a mention, I heard the 10 they were considering including Brighton v Palace and Fulham v Chelsea and I turned it off.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by Ptangyangkipperbang » Mon May 09, 2022 7:30 pm

We've come a long way from the terrace chants of the 70s and 80s.But I doubt swearing will never be eradicated from football songs most people can't say three words without at least one of them being effin.Two chants what make me cringe "your support is not very good" and the "I wanna go home coz your town is a dump" chant

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by elwaclaret » Mon May 09, 2022 7:32 pm

claretburns wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 7:24 pm
I didn't realise we got a mention, I heard the 10 they were considering including Brighton v Palace and Fulham v Chelsea and I turned it off.
Yes nice little few seconds - GL asks Shearer about Rovers rivals… then looked shocked that he’d forgotten. Micah Richards “That belongs on the list… GL - That’s tasty . Shearer “sadly Burnley were potting around in the lower leagues” (top rival p!ss take)…
Or words to that effect.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon May 09, 2022 7:44 pm

One day, football we be experienced like watching Tennis, before that happens, chants will be generic, soft, happy classy chants, like you hear in America

Let's Go Burnley! Burnley, Let's Go!

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by Bosscat » Mon May 09, 2022 7:47 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 7:44 pm
One day, football we be experienced like watching Tennis, before that happens, chants will be generic, soft, happy classy chants, like you hear in America

Let's Go Burnley! Burnley, Let's Go!
You mean like "Get in the hole" replaced with Get in the Goal"

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by Aclaret » Mon May 09, 2022 7:51 pm

" The referees a w anchor " aimed at Kevin Friend is usually acceptable.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by bfcjg » Mon May 09, 2022 7:57 pm

Worst one ever was the Abervan chants to Cardiff, not sure you could sink lower.
The Scousers and Mancs though are quite repulsive with the Hillsborough and Munich chants.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by elwaclaret » Mon May 09, 2022 8:11 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 7:57 pm
Worst one ever was the Abervan chants to Cardiff, not sure you could sink lower.
The Scousers and Mancs though are quite repulsive with the Hillsborough and Munich chants.
Quite agree. Most singing them have no idea what the references are. Sheep in a choir

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by dougcollins » Mon May 09, 2022 8:23 pm

claretburns wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 6:25 pm
I read this earlier and thought it was ridiculous.

Ironically, the area where Tottenham Stadium is based has the highest unemployment rate in the country.
Harringay is, by some distance, my least favourite part of London. Never mind south of the river.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by IanMcL » Mon May 09, 2022 9:05 pm

Ptangyangkipperbang wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 7:30 pm
We've come a long way from the terrace chants of the 70s and 80s.But I doubt swearing will never be eradicated from football songs most people can't say three words without at least one of them being effin.Two chants what make me cringe "your support is not very good" and the "I wanna go home coz your town is a dump" chant
There's only one eff in Fulham!

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by IanMcL » Mon May 09, 2022 9:05 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 8:23 pm
Harringay is, by some distance, my least favourite part of London. Never mind south of the river.
The greyhounds agree.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by IanMcL » Mon May 09, 2022 9:18 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 7:44 pm
One day, football we be experienced like watching Tennis, before that happens, chants will be generic, soft, happy classy chants, like you hear in America

Let's Go Burnley! Burnley, Let's Go!
Play up Pompey stuff!

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by IanMcL » Mon May 09, 2022 9:24 pm

I must admit I do miss, "Get your tips out for the lads".

I accept it is a no no, however, I remember an away match where the directors and their wives had to walk around the perimeter, for some reason. There was a fairly ok directors wife (looked good for her age) and everyone recognised that she was well presented. The song was sung as she passed the away end and she beamed. She recognised it was about her, not the others and positively beamed with joy. A huge smile and a wave and a cheer from the away end crowd.
Fun moment for all.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by what_no_pies » Tue May 10, 2022 12:26 pm

Oh Burnley is wonderful and who's that lying on the carpet are shameful. There's no banter label can be used for either. Stop singing them.
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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by groove » Tue May 10, 2022 12:58 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 6:54 pm
How about sitting quietly and watching the game with your dignity in tact
How about going to the theatre instead

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by groove » Tue May 10, 2022 1:03 pm

And the songs we sing
They're not supposed to mean a thing-Morrissey (We'll let you know).
I wish people would stop trying to football grounds into cathedrals of virtue. Seriously, is this all you're bothered about? Drunken, working class men singing inappropriate songs? Get a life.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by Rileybobs » Tue May 10, 2022 2:17 pm

groove wrote:
Tue May 10, 2022 1:03 pm
And the songs we sing
They're not supposed to mean a thing-Morrissey (We'll let you know).
I wish people would stop trying to football grounds into cathedrals of virtue. Seriously, is this all you're bothered about? Drunken, working class men singing inappropriate songs? Get a life.
Sounds like you're bothered about it :lol:

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by elwaclaret » Tue May 10, 2022 2:34 pm

groove wrote:
Tue May 10, 2022 1:03 pm
And the songs we sing
They're not supposed to mean a thing-Morrissey (We'll let you know).
I wish people would stop trying to football grounds into cathedrals of virtue. Seriously, is this all you're bothered about? Drunken, working class men singing inappropriate songs? Get a life.
Quoting Morrissey is hilarious - from gladioli waving arch socialist to ex-pat Fascist, now living in Mexico were his ‘flavour’ pop is still welcomed… no words don’t matter.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by IanMcL » Tue May 10, 2022 3:38 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 9:24 pm
I must admit I do miss, "Get your tits out for the lads".

I accept it is a no no, however, I remember an away match where the directors and their wives had to walk around the perimeter, for some reason. There was a fairly ok directors wife (looked good for her age) and everyone recognised that she was well presented. The song was sung as she passed the away end and she beamed. She recognised it was about her, not the others and positively beamed with joy. A huge smile and a wave and a cheer from the away end crowd.
Fun moment for all.
Just noticed tits got 'predicted' to tips in the first post!
(It did just then too!)
No other reason to repost, except unable to edit.
Apologies for repeat!

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by AwayClaret » Tue May 10, 2022 4:09 pm

"You'll always be a bar steward" doesn't quite cut it.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue May 10, 2022 4:16 pm

When I started taking my kids to football, I made it clear that chants/songs homophobic, sexist, racist and calling someone a nonce/child abusers were off limits.

Anything else was fair game within reason, need to have some good back and forth between fans at a game or it just makes things boring.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by NRC » Tue May 10, 2022 5:23 pm

seriously, though, how does singing Blackburn Rovers instead of Bar Steward Rovers deflect from the passion with which it is sung. What does it really add? It doesn't, does it? Singing the song should be about the roar. the sentiment, and the passion with which it is song

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by groove » Tue May 10, 2022 7:16 pm

NRC wrote:
Tue May 10, 2022 5:23 pm
seriously, though, how does singing Blackburn Rovers instead of Bar Steward Rovers deflect from the passion with which it is sung. What does it really add? It doesn't, does it? Singing the song should be about the roar. the sentiment, and the passion with which it is song
I always refer to them as B******s. Why would I refer to them by their formal name in a football chant?

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by Mala591 » Wed May 11, 2022 1:46 pm

Would

Sheep, sheep, sheep, shearers

be acceptable when we play Yorkshire teams?

🙂

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed May 11, 2022 2:51 pm

Pretty rare these days to ever hear anything racist or seriously offensive . Wasn’t the harmless “ sign on” chant last sung around 1981 anyway ? And not heard “ whose that dying on the runway at a match “ etc for almost ever . Though I hear Leeds fans still enjoy this

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by ecc » Wed May 11, 2022 2:59 pm

Was thinking about the chants from the 70s and 80s.

Fortunately, things have improved massively in English football grounds above all in terms of racist chants.

But you can't stop everything. It's just impossible.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 11, 2022 3:29 pm

I’ve never really seen any point in chants aimed at other clubs, even more so when not even playing them.

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Re: What Chants are Acceptable?

Post by Shaggy » Wed May 11, 2022 3:53 pm

We all know who sits in the bob lord stand now then.

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