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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by IanMcL » Thu May 12, 2022 8:03 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 2:00 pm
Well you know Mickey Dolenz, Mike Naismith and Peter Tork?........ :lol:
Mrs V: No your guv

How about the Burnley midfielder - formerly with Manchester United?

Mrs V: now you're talking!

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Bosscat » Thu May 12, 2022 8:05 pm

IanMcL wrote:
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You will be telling us next that you don't know about doubloons and pieces of eight!
Probably never heard of/or seen "Pirates of the Caribbean" either ... wasn't Davy Jones one of the characters played by Bill Nighy I think
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by IanMcL » Thu May 12, 2022 8:07 pm

All that make up and he still looks like Bill Nighy!
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Bosscat » Thu May 12, 2022 8:07 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:07 pm
All that make up and he still looks like Bill Nighy!
Thats Bill Nighy for you 🤭
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Billy Balfour » Thu May 12, 2022 8:39 pm

I don't think the barrister was being snobbish at all. You'd think someone in their 40s would have heard of Davy Jones' Locker. Either from books, films, or when used as metaphor for the bottom of the sea.

Mind you, it's Dumb Britain we are talking about here. A place where people wear their ignorance like a badge of honour.
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Chobulous » Fri May 13, 2022 7:09 am

I’ve never understood how some women think that being thick is somehow attractive. Jamie Vardy is proof that some men think that as well.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Damo » Fri May 13, 2022 7:20 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
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I’d never heard that phrase before either tbh.
To the surprise of absolutely nobody

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by bfcjg » Fri May 13, 2022 7:26 am

Be honest Mrs Vardy, what first attracted you to the short @rsed ,ugly, half witted, famous multi millionaire Jamie Vardy ?
To paraphrase Mrs Merton.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by timshorts » Fri May 13, 2022 7:32 am

bfcjg wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 7:26 am
Be honest Mrs Vardy, what first attracted you to the short @rsed ,ugly, half witted, famous multi millionaire Jamie Vardy ?
To paraphrase Mrs Merton.
"He first beat my offside trap and then said he was entitled to go down on me? "
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Herts Clarets » Fri May 13, 2022 7:55 am

bfcjg wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 7:26 am
Be honest Mrs Vardy, what first attracted you to the short @rsed ,ugly, half witted, famous multi millionaire Jamie Vardy ?
To paraphrase Mrs Merton.
Well my mate Chardonnay said he was one of the best when he gets in the box.....
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by bfcjg » Fri May 13, 2022 8:31 am

Britney said that bloke there can smash one in from any angle no matter what defence there is, so I thought after Peter Andre's chipolata disaster I'd give him a go, I was shocked your honour when I found out he was also a millionaire footballer as his tackle entwined with.mine the morning after in the Holiday Inn.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri May 13, 2022 9:12 am

I wonder, as libel is incredibly hard to prove , not to mention catastrophically expensive ,this will end up in a “ Vardy victory “ with the old £1 damages awarded ? ie yes you won in court but you’re clearly guilty ?

I remember Bruce Grobelar getting a £1 , Ken Barlow being bankrupted ( the Sun called him “ boring”) and Jeff Archer ending up in jail after his tantrum case vs the Guardian which also almost bankrupted them too. ( which eventually led to his “ old brass” trial )

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by ClaretPete001 » Fri May 13, 2022 10:00 am

AlargeClaret wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 9:12 am
I wonder, as libel is incredibly hard to prove , not to mention catastrophically expensive ,this will end up in a “ Vardy victory “ with the old £1 damages awarded ? ie yes you won in court but you’re clearly guilty ?

I remember Bruce Grobelar getting a £1 , Ken Barlow being bankrupted ( the Sun called him “ boring”) and Jeff Archer ending up in jail after his tantrum case vs the Guardian which also almost bankrupted them too. ( which eventually led to his “ old brass” trial )
I think in this case it will be reputational damage that will be incredibly hard to prove. I suspect Vardy may win because it is also incredibly hard to prove that someone leaked a social media post directly to the media.

Vardy could have told a friend/agent who leaked it albeit the fact that she has asked her agent to leak stories is pretty damning. The question remains as to whether there is enough evidence to prove she leaked the one related to Rooney's tweet?

I guess you are right though - it will emerge that Vardy likely did it but there may not be enough evidence to defend the libel case.

What will make it harder for Vardy is to prove reputational damage given she has been involved in leaking stories to the Sun.

I guess if the whole thing costs Rooney a million or less she will consider it money well spent. That's the advantage of being rich you can use the courts as a theatre to act out petty squabbles.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by IanMcL » Fri May 13, 2022 10:15 am

Has Mrs V actually got a reputation?
Can it be damaged or enhanced, by all this crap?

Just sounds a piece of work, to a wide berth should be given.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by NRC » Fri May 13, 2022 3:56 pm

If Vardy's defense is it can't be proven its her becuase others may have had access to her account/password and/or the record is lost, drowned, or deleted, then surely the key phrase for Vardy is "It's ......... Rebekah Vardy's account." Surely that access to her account excuse goes both ways and Rooney can argue it's not a direct accusation

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri May 13, 2022 4:04 pm

NRC wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 3:56 pm
If Vardy's defense is it can't be proven its her becuase others may have had access to her account/password and/or the record is lost, drowned, or deleted, then surely the key phrase for Vardy is "It's ......... Rebekah Vardy's account." Surely that access to her account excuse goes both ways and Rooney can argue it's not a direct accusation
It's like if your car is clocked speeding, you have to prove that it wasn't you driving.
If you can't prove that it was somebody else, then you take the points

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by JohnMac » Fri May 13, 2022 4:15 pm

She also upgraded from a 'not quite made it' footballer to an International multi millionaire footballer.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by pushpinpussy » Fri May 13, 2022 4:17 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 4:04 pm
It's like if your car is clocked speeding, you have to prove that it wasn't you driving.
If you can't prove that it was somebody else, then you take the points
that is incorrect. The crown need to prove you were the driver of the vehicle. you do not have to prove anything. however, since driving offences are strict liability offences if they can prove you were driving they don't then have to prove your mental state.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by s6t9a2f3f » Fri May 13, 2022 9:05 pm

Think Jamie Vardy is getting a easy time of it isnt he ? Don't have to be sherlock Holmes to gather where Mrs Vardy got the Drinkwater and Marhez stories from - grassing on your team mates to your wife to sell exclusive stories ? Wow

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by dsr » Sat May 14, 2022 1:16 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
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I believe it’s the other way round. Rooney has to prove it was Vardy who personally leaked the stories following the pre trial hearing.
There must be some sort of limitations on that, though. Rooney might have to prove that Vardy did it, but if Vardy's defence is that it wasn't her, it was the agent who gets paid large amounts of money to do Vardy's bidding, and that agent can't or won't give evidence, then it gets a bit thin.

And then when the court orders Vardy to hand over her mobile phone for a search, and she says yes I will, but first I'm going to the seaside to drop it in the sea; and they say let's look at your WhatsApp accout, and she says it's been deleted; and they say let's look at your backup Whatsapp, and they say they've lost the password; and they say here's the password, now let's look at the backup Whatsapp, and they say the entire data has been corrupted; and they say let's have a look at your husband's Whatsapp, and they say it was hacked and deleted; and they say let's see your laptop, and they say we've thrown it away - well, the court might think that it isn't reasonable to expect Rooney to prove anything.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat May 14, 2022 7:25 am

It’s all rather bizarre to tell the truth.
Like many others I think I’m pretty clear on what’s happened.

From what I’ve read though it’s a likely Vardy win.

“ Following an earlier ruling, it is up to Rooney to prove Vardy was personally responsible for leaking stories to the Sun – or convince the judge that publication of the allegation was in the public interest”

I’m not sure how she can prove that due to the many ‘unfortunate’ incidents that have happened since the allegation.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by mikeS » Sat May 14, 2022 8:07 am

Saw it on the news last night.
Outside the courts.
Wayne looked very smart, but... no Jamie - where he?
Looking for the missing phone?
Gripping story isn't it?

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat May 14, 2022 8:08 am

He’ll be at training I’d imagine.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Eloise Laws » Sat May 14, 2022 8:59 am

The media circus that has been created around 2 people falling out on social media shows what a sad celebrity (and I use the term very loosely) infected world we now live in. Certainly not worth a mention in the nightly news in my opinion.
Who cares??????

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by LeadBelly » Sat May 14, 2022 10:01 am

Ive not followed much detail of the actual legal case though it's difficult to avoid some of the spin-off stories.

A Spectator article today has a pointed part paragraph as follows "....but also outraged at this designer Bedlam in which women with too much time and too much of their husband’s money on their hands are locked together in a bonfire of the vanities which will eventually burn through millions of pounds in legal fees. To make it even more surreally stupid, the top damages Vardy might win from Rooney is thought to be around £40,000 – barely more than a decent day’s shopping for any self-respecting WAG.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by tiger76 » Sat May 14, 2022 10:05 am

LeadBelly wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 10:01 am
Ive not followed much detail of the actual legal case though it's difficult to avoid some of the spin-off stories.

A Spectator article today has a pointed part paragraph as follows "....but also outraged at this designer Bedlam in which women with too much time and too much of their husband’s money on their hands are locked together in a bonfire of the vanities which will eventually burn through millions of pounds in legal fees. To make it even more surreally stupid, the top damages Vardy might win from Rooney is thought to be around £40,000 – barely more than a decent day’s shopping for any self-respecting WAG.
Yes that's why it's so bizarre it even made it to a courtroom, however as you rightly say when you've got ready money to burn I guess you can afford to hire the top lawyers, and make no mistake they'll be the only winners in this whole charade.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Sat May 14, 2022 10:24 am

Bring a new law in and then fine them both 5 million pound for a complete waste of time then donate the money to the local food banks if only a complete pair of hits sorry about the spelling utc

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat May 14, 2022 10:35 am

Both as daft as each other, and as said above, far more money than sense.

(Although in these two cases, if they had a fiver each, they'd still have more money than sense.) :mrgreen:
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by IanMcL » Sat May 14, 2022 3:11 pm

All the cases waiting to be sorted in the courts and High Court time is devoted to pure crap.
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon May 16, 2022 10:30 am

Peter Andre, Danny Drinkwater and the unwitting collateral of ‘Wagatha Christie’

Two years ago Coleen Rooney’s lawyers urged Rebekah Vardy to seek a mediated solution to her libel claim, warning that the “full public glare” of legal proceedings would not be an enjoyable experience.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... a-christie

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Billy Balfour » Mon May 16, 2022 10:32 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sat May 14, 2022 3:11 pm
All the cases waiting to be sorted in the courts and High Court time is devoted to pure crap.
The High Court deals with civil, non-criminal, cases.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by IanMcL » Mon May 16, 2022 10:40 am

Billy Balfour wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 10:32 am
The High Court deals with civil, non-criminal, cases.
True. However, it also deals with appeals and there is a backlog.

This particular case is pointless.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by ElectroClaret » Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:18 pm

Rebekah Vardy loses High Court libel battle against Coleen Rooney.

No, me neither.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:21 pm

A good win, for the lawyers.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by beddie » Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:31 pm

SouthLondonexile wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 11:26 pm
The civil action will cost millions. It is obscene and a personal failure by both parties not to seek an out of court resolution. It is a disgrace when so many of us cannot afford food , fuel and dentistry. I say go back home and take both your egos with you.
Agree 100%, however if Mrs Vardy issues proceedings Mrs Rooney simply had to defend the action if she felt she was innocent. It’s all down to Mrs Vardy, had she had any scruples she would have owned up to Mrs Rooney in the first instance and apologised, almost grovelled for forgiveness and asked how she could put this right.
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:34 pm

Didn't even realise this was still going on 🤣🤣🤣

Ah well I am sure the Lawyers will find some way to keep it grumbling on

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by beddie » Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:44 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:34 pm
Didn't even realise this was still going on 🤣🤣🤣

Ah well I am sure the Lawyers will find some way to keep it grumbling on
I haven’t read the judgment but I imagine Mrs Vardy will be able to appeal, although I would hope her lawyers have advised her against it, if the advice is the opposite then Mr & Mrs Vardy had better think seriously about what it might end up costing them.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by dougcollins » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:01 pm

I saw Mrs & Mrs Vardy in Saltaire a few weeks back.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:02 pm

An appeal isn't as straight forward as bringing a civil case to court. A judge will only grant an appeal if it has a real chance of success.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:03 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:01 pm
I saw Mrs & Mrs Vardy in Saltaire a few weeks back.

Did someone tell him it wasn't for sale?

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by gawthorpe_view » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:07 pm

Genuine question, what would happen to the legal costs, £3 million reportedly, if Rebekah Vardy filed for bankruptcy?

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:17 pm

Bit surprising.

Does this mean she is legally a grass?

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:18 pm

It means she was silly, to put it lightly, for taking this to litigation.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:06 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:17 pm
Bit surprising.

Does this mean she is legally a grass?
Tw@t, I think rather than grass
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:55 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:07 pm
Genuine question, what would happen to the legal costs, £3 million reportedly, if Rebekah Vardy filed for bankruptcy?
She isn’t bankrupt.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:08 pm

Newsflash Vardy/Agent phone found
Rebekah Vardy phone found washed up at Skegness.jpg
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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by mdd2 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:15 pm

I think Coleen defended herself in the action so not sure what her legal fees would be if she were not granted costs by the Judge. Coleen has every
right to expect to be awarded costs as she appears to have defended the action successfully

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:32 pm

Do you think Jamie is now doubting the sincerity of her statement to him proclaiming she still would have been attracted to him had he been a bin man or a glass collected in the exclusive club she first saw him in.

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by AfloatinClaret » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:40 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:15 pm
I think Coleen defended herself in the action so not sure what her legal fees would be if she were not granted costs by the Judge. Coleen has every
right to expect to be awarded costs as she appears to have defended the action successfully
She does indeed and Ms Vardy will be liable for them. I'd always anticipated that the judge would find in favour of Ms Vardy, but award only £1 or perhaps ten, leaving the door open for Mrs Rooney to make a costs claim based on her previous counter-bank settlement offers; she must have really ****** off the Judge to lose completely. :shock:

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Re: Mrs Vardy and Drinkwater

Post by mdd2 » Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:52 pm

But as he awarded costs for Coleen ie she pays nothing in legal fees?

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