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**** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Milltown1882 » Sun May 15, 2022 12:55 pm

Vydra gets punched in the head against Norwich and Friend doesn’t give a pen.

‘Handball’ that Barnes couldn’t have done anything about and it’s a pen straightaway from our pal Kevin.

Thought football was meant to balance itself out over the season?
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by fidelcastro » Sun May 15, 2022 12:57 pm

Friend didn't spot the 'offence'.

Blame VAR.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Cabbage » Sun May 15, 2022 12:58 pm

If it had been against Tottenham would he have given it to us? I doubt it! Referees just love the big clubs. Thy know where their bread is buttered! Another example of everything that’s wrong about the Premier League.
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Cornwallclaret » Sun May 15, 2022 12:58 pm

That’s a fine example of premier league bias….they have not not scored yet so give them a penalty….. absolutely disgusted with that decision….everything that’s wrong with this league
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun May 15, 2022 12:59 pm

That's fu king rubbish from VAR. Friend is always going to overturn ut when they tell him to look at it as he is toast if he doesn't. Noones claiming dof that. It's not a clear error. It's not even affecting the flight of the ball really. Should have checked and gone with on field.

Bloody awful decision

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by IanMcL » Sun May 15, 2022 12:59 pm

Exactly that Cornwall. Prem interests come first.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Milltown1882 » Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 12:59 pm
That's fu king rubbish from VAR. Friend is always going to overturn ut when they tell him to look at it as he is toast if he doesn't. Noones claiming dof that. It's not a clear error. It's not even affecting the flight of the ball really. Should have checked and gone with on field.

Bloody awful decision
Not one Spurs player appealed for it. Madness.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm

What the frig is his arm doing up there though.

Berk!

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by ClaretMov » Sun May 15, 2022 1:04 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm
What the frig is his arm doing up there though.

Berk!
Have you tried jumping with your ams down by your side....Berk

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Steddyman » Sun May 15, 2022 1:05 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm
What the frig is his arm doing up there though.

Berk!
This. He gave them no choice. This is probably down to Barnes lack of play time under the new rules.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Steddyman » Sun May 15, 2022 1:05 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:04 pm
Have you tried jumping with your ams down by your side....Berk
He didn't jump. That took effort to keep his arm there.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun May 15, 2022 1:06 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm
What the frig is his arm doing up there though.

Berk!
Because he got a nudge and his arms went out to balance
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by taio » Sun May 15, 2022 1:06 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:05 pm
This. He gave them no choice. This is probably down to Barnes lack of play time under the new rules.
Is it f**k. It's just an instinctive thing.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by jedi_master » Sun May 15, 2022 1:06 pm

Disgusting decision - almost as bad as the Pope ‘penalty’ at Leeds and the Ashley Barnes non-goal at Leeds.

I can barely believe that was given.
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun May 15, 2022 1:07 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm
What the frig is his arm doing up there though.

Berk!
Be zuse he's just been wrestling with the oppo player and flings himself forward to block the ball. He doesn't put his arm out to block - its already there from the tussle.

No common sense o that at all. The ball hardly moves it almost runs up his arm. There's no pass to deflect. There's no advantage. There's no shot at goal (if it stopped a shot I'd say fair enough). Then they play o and actually have a decent chance.

It's utter utter nonsense

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by jedi_master » Sun May 15, 2022 1:07 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:05 pm
This. He gave them no choice. This is probably down to Barnes lack of play time under the new rules.
40cm from his arm with a ball travelling something like 50-60mph.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by timel0veandtendayi » Sun May 15, 2022 1:07 pm

Classic example of why VAR is ruining football.

Was it a 'clear and obvious mistake' by the ref? No.

In real time, could Barnes do anything about it, keeping in mind the ball was blasted at him from a yard away? No.

If you slow it down, can you see some contact with his arm? Yes. There's your penalty and no-one can argue.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Goody1975 » Sun May 15, 2022 1:08 pm

His arms were in a natural position for what had just happened before.
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun May 15, 2022 1:13 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:04 pm
Have you tried jumping with your ams down by your side....Berk
He wasn't jumping you trumpet.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Tread Warily » Sun May 15, 2022 1:14 pm

Friend must have left his glasses at home, the ????

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun May 15, 2022 1:16 pm

Does anybody apart from his wife and kids actually like Kevin Friend?

In a league full of ***** he’s definitely top five.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Stacky_claret » Sun May 15, 2022 1:42 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:06 pm
Disgusting decision - almost as bad as the Pope ‘penalty’ at Leeds and the Ashley Barnes non-goal at Leeds.

I can barely believe that was given.
Theres the problem I can believe it was given
But 100% wouldn't have been given in the other penalty area

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Stacky_claret » Sun May 15, 2022 1:43 pm

timel0veandtendayi wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:07 pm
Classic example of why VAR is ruining football.

Was it a 'clear and obvious mistake' by the ref? No.

In real time, could Barnes do anything about it, keeping in mind the ball was blasted at him from a yard away? No.

If you slow it down, can you see some contact with his arm? Yes. There's your penalty and no-one can argue.
But you can argue with those points
I've seen clearer handballs not given for those reasons
And lots of them to

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by AwayClaret » Sun May 15, 2022 1:49 pm

The pause before ordering the pen is all you need to know about this tosspot.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by burnley007 » Sun May 15, 2022 1:55 pm

Embarrassing

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Claretlad » Sun May 15, 2022 1:59 pm

Corrupt

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun May 15, 2022 2:01 pm

You can't really argue with the penalty within the law of the game. Barnes shouldn't have his hand in that position in the box. Harsh but it is what it is.

We'd want one if it was the other way round.
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by AwayClaret » Sun May 15, 2022 2:04 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 2:01 pm
You can't really argue with the penalty within the law of the game. Barnes shouldn't have his hand in that position in the box. Harsh but it is what it is.

We'd want one if it was the other way round.
Yeah but Friend is still an absolute bell end of the highest order.
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun May 15, 2022 2:05 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 2:01 pm
You can't really argue with the penalty within the law of the game. Barnes shouldn't have his hand in that position in the box. Harsh but it is what it is.

We'd want one if it was the other way round.
Guarantee we don't get it if the roles are reversed.
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun May 15, 2022 2:06 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 2:05 pm
Guarantee we don't get it if the roles are reversed.
Who knows. But we'd still want one.

Excellent performance and still 2 games left and who knows what the Leeds - Brighton game brings today.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun May 15, 2022 2:06 pm

Surely all our justified anger should be directed at Stuart Attwell. I don't think that Friend was interested in giving anything.
Yes, Friend is in charge, but it seems to be 100% that referees go with VAR when asked to do so.
There's no way that Attwell could describe that as a clear and obvious error by Friend.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Foulthrow » Sun May 15, 2022 2:07 pm

Wasn’t not a foul on Barnes?

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by jedi_master » Sun May 15, 2022 2:08 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 2:06 pm
Who knows. But we'd still want one.

Excellent performance and still 2 games left and who knows what the Leeds - Brighton game brings today.
Speak for myself here but I wouldn’t even appeal for it.
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun May 15, 2022 2:09 pm

Corrupt

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by claretandy » Sun May 15, 2022 2:09 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 12:57 pm
Friend didn't spot the 'offence'.

Blame VAR.
This. VAR doesn't get involved if it's at the other end ...

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by NewClaret » Sun May 15, 2022 2:10 pm

Don’t VAR check all penalties?

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by burnleymik » Sun May 15, 2022 2:10 pm

To be fair Barnes had just taken a shove in the chest and seemed to be recovering balance. The ball was being flicked up to go over him.

The thing was it didn't seem like any of the fans or players were appealing for it, so why did VAR step in? It wasn't clear or obvious in real time?

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by quoonbeatz » Sun May 15, 2022 2:14 pm

If you were wondering how much of a mess the game of football is in, decisions like that are your answer. Absolutely appalling.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by claretblue » Sun May 15, 2022 2:19 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 12:55 pm
Thought football was meant to balance itself out over the season?
I’m still hoping it does!

2 games still to play to even things up! 8-)

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by claretabroad » Sun May 15, 2022 2:21 pm

Feels like the mitigation of why his arm was there and how close the ball was kicked from were completely ignored. It looked like the ref was itching to give it and I echo the sentiments that it would never have been given at the other end.

I'm a tad annoyed about this as our performance was good enough to come away with at least a point.

We've been diddled. I hope it doesn't cost us by the end of the season.
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun May 15, 2022 2:27 pm

Had we not already played the 4 minutes added time ? But even so as has been said Ashley barnes was off balance due to a foul on him, its natural that you use your arms in that way, but why had the whistle not already gone for the foul, and for the end to the first half.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Elizabeth » Sun May 15, 2022 2:33 pm

Absolutely no arguments from me as tough as it is to accept.
Every football fan knows that if the ball strikes the arm which is away from the body in the penalty box it will be given as a penalty.
The Kevin Friend haters need to get a grip , he could do nothing as the current rules stand.

Should it have been a penalty? Absolutely not and let’s get back to the deliberate handball rule.
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun May 15, 2022 2:34 pm

Barnes looks to me like he's trying to thrust his chest out to block the ball as he sees the Spurs player going to flick it. In thrusting his chest out he quite naturally puts his arms out and the ball doesn't strike his chest but inadvertently brushes his arm. No way a pen bearing in mind the minute distance from which the ball was kicked at him, but more than that, I just want a referee, ANY referee, to be asked to check the pitch side monitor and have the balls to say "nope, I believe I got it right first time", because we all know that being called to the monitor is simply code for, we've decided you're wrong so change your mind whether you agree with us here at Stockley or not!
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by claretandy » Sun May 15, 2022 2:38 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 2:10 pm
Don’t VAR check all penalties?
Did they check Krul punching Vydra ?
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Conroy92 » Sun May 15, 2022 2:58 pm

While we haven't been good enough for long periods and can hold no excuses for that, this season the decisions against us have been disgusting at times.
The Krul one at Norwich probably being the worst decision I've ever seen, if I was making mistakes like that at work I'd be down the road!
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Conroy92 » Sun May 15, 2022 3:00 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 2:34 pm
Barnes looks to me like he's trying to thrust his chest out to block the ball as he sees the Spurs player going to flick it. In thrusting his chest out he quite naturally puts his arms out and the ball doesn't strike his chest but inadvertently brushes his arm. No way a pen bearing in mind the minute distance from which the ball was kicked at him, but more than that, I just want a referee, ANY referee, to be asked to check the pitch side monitor and have the balls to say "nope, I believe I got it right first time", because we all know that being called to the monitor is simply code for, we've decided you're wrong so change your mind whether you agree with us here at Stockley or not!
I agree with this. I would like to see a ref look at the monitor and back his original decision if it looked correct. As soon as they check the screen now you know it's a given.
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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Herts Clarets » Sun May 15, 2022 3:11 pm

Let us not forget the VAR referee once awarded a goal for a shot that went wide of the goal. That is the level of competence we are faced with.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by strayclaret » Sun May 15, 2022 3:31 pm

:| Not calmed down yet ******* ridiculous decision. I hope the VAR officials enjoy their brown envelopes

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by Rowls » Sun May 15, 2022 3:33 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 12:57 pm
Friend didn't spot the 'offence'.

Blame VAR.
Referees decision is final and referee has final decision.

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Re: **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Post by dandeclaret » Sun May 15, 2022 4:02 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Speak for myself here but I wouldn’t even appeal for it.
Spurs fans appeal for everything…… not a murmer of an appeal…. Tells you all you need to know
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