Possible team

[bumba]

1st game of season, possible team:

Peacock-Farrell

Roberts Collins Thomas/Long Taylor

McNeil Brownhill Westwood Costelloe

JRod Richardson

Not a bad starting base, younger fresher and good base for a rebuild.

Players not included will of paid the debt off and huge wages off the bill

[Roosterbooster]

I cant see a new manager playing 442

[daveisaclaret]

Wayne Hennessey is a much better goalie than Peacock-Farrell

[RVclaret]

All depends on who the manager is and what system they choose to play. But yeah would be nice to see some of the 23s pushed through into the first team like Richardson, Dodgson, Thomas, Costelloe and Helm.

[JR1882]

1st game of season, possible team:

Peacock-Farrell

Roberts Collins Thomas/Long Taylor

McNeil Brownhill Westwood Costelloe

JRod Richardson

Not a bad starting base, younger fresher and good base for a rebuild.

Players not included will of paid the debt off and huge wages off the bill

We signed no one?

[LAM]

Massive disrespect to the championship if you think that team will trouble the top half. We are bang in trouble and I fear for our future. The owners, I fear, pinned everything on staying up.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I’ve no idea how good that Costello lad is but it doesn’t inspire much confidence that the under 23 boss didn’t fancy him when we needed a goal.

[Slurpy]

Hennessey
Roberts Collins NEW Taylor
McNeil NEW Brownhill
NEW Weghorst NEW

[Stacks]

Barnes on a one year? (Reduced wages) Nay or yay

[Cleveleys_claret]

Barnes nay...sadly to time for a reset

Hennessey

Roberts Mee Collins Long Taylor

Brownhill Cork McNeil

Jay Wout

Peacock Farrell
Thomas
Westwood
Lowton
Handful of kids

[colne-claret]

1st game of season, possible team:

Peacock-Farrell

Roberts Collins Thomas/Long Taylor

McNeil Brownhill Westwood Costelloe

JRod Richardson

Not a bad starting base, younger fresher and good base for a rebuild.

Players not included will of paid the debt off and huge wages off the bill

This team would be fighting relegation.

[Iloveyoubrady]

Hen
Roberts Collins Mee Taylor
Brownhill cork
New McNeil New
Jay/Weg

Should be an aim. Although a good new cm would be nice as well. That is assuming we sell Cornet under release clause and pope won’t want to resign so we should cash in as we have a good backup. Mee resigning would be crucial for an experienced professional. Despite our dodgy looking squad for next season, we do have a decent platform for whoever comes in to buy some young attacking talent.

Also, despite the loan repayment, we do have £50m in the bank which would go a very long way to sorting that out. And then there is the issue of whether Burnley as a football club actually owes the money, as from what I have seen it looks like the holdings company.

We will see…

[leightonjameslegend]

Being realistic Cornet 17.5m and Pope 20m will.most likely be sold, possibly McNeil or Brownhill. Plus 30m parachute payments.
And 14000 season tickets sold we should be fine for 1/2 seasons in the Championship..
Pruning the squad of older players will further reduce the wage bill. Meaning we will have money to spend on young talent with some free transfers or European talent.

Hennessey/BPF
Lowton/Roberts
Taylor/NEW
Mee?/Collins/Long/NEW or is Thomas ready
Brownhill/Cork/NEW
McNeil/NEW/NEW
Wout/Rodriquez/NEW

For me 6 new signings at least!

[Long Time Lurker]

Hennessey

Roberts / Long / Mee / Cheap Signing

Cork / Daft Foreign Punt or Stephens

Lennon / Daft Foreign Punt / Jay Rod

Weghorst

Subs

BPF
Lowton
Cheap Signing
Cheap Signing
Academy Player

[jrgbfc]

McNeil is way too good for the Championship. Something along the lines of

Hennessey
Roberts. Collins. Mee. Taylor

NEW. Brownhill. NEW. NEW.

Jay Rod. Weghorst.

I'd be happy enough with that, if we can get some youth and creativity into our midfield.

[BurnleyFC]

If they want to stay…

Hennessey

Roberts, Collins, Mee, Taylor

New, Brownhill, New, McNeil

New, Weghorst

Pope and Tarks will go with my best wishes. Cornet will want out. Barnes, Cork, Lennon, Bardsley, Westwood, Stephens, JBG etc. should be gone. I just wish we hadn’t shown some daft sentiment to Jay Rod, because he’s been nowhere near good enough for a new contract either.

[Long Time Lurker]

Being realistic Cornet 17.5m

That isn't how it works. If we did get 17.5m for Cornet then we probably wouldn't bank 17.5m, because i doubt that we paid his full transfer fee up front.

His transfer fee is probably spread across the duration of his contract so we might have only paid 3m of what we owe to Lyon.

If that speculation is correct we would get 17.5m minus what we still owe to Lyon and the small profit we might make will be measured next to the sign on fee and agent fee that we probably had to pay up front.

The same will be true for Weghorst and Collins.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Whatever happens the whole striking department needs an overhaul so we have some players who can actually score.

[Stacks]

Where is JBG in your lineups. He is signed next year and nobody will take his salary off us

[DCWat]

Richardson?

[BurnleyFC]

Where is JBG in your lineups. He is signed next year and nobody will take his salary off us

Then if there’s any money left he should be paid off.

[Long Time Lurker]

Where is JBG in your lineups. He is signed next year and nobody will take his salary off us

Injured

I should point out that the lineup I proposed is what I expect us to go with, not what I would like to see.

[Guller Bull]

Keep Vydra/Jay/Barnes - Sell Wout/Cornet

Bring some Yoof through in the Striker dept

[Longsidejono]

Taylor is deffo going to get taken by a prem team I wouldn’t be thinking he’s with us next season

[KRBFC]

McNeil is way too good for the Championship.

My arse

[RVclaret]

My arse

Definitely Prem quality. He’ll shine in a more progressive/fluid team.

[PremierLeagueClass]

I’d be very surprised if anyone came in for McNeil.

[RVclaret]

I’d be very surprised if anyone came in for McNeil.

Really? He’s been linked with a Prem team every window since breaking into the team.

[PremierLeagueClass]

Definitely Prem quality. He’ll shine in a more progressive/fluid team.

He can’t shoot, hasn’t got any pace, hasn’t got a right foot, poor decision making at times. Whilst he’s clearly got talent he is extremely limited.

[KRBFC]

Definitely Prem quality. He’ll shine in a more progressive/fluid team.

Ends the season with 0 goals and 1 assist, holds a record for most shots in the PL without a goal.

[Lancasterclaret]

F**king hell lads

We only got relegated about four hours ago!

Can we start this thread in July or something?

[RVclaret]

Ends the season with 0 goals and 1 assist, holds a record for most shots in the PL without a goal.

Agree it’s a poor record but I’d bet his xA (expected assists) is quite high. I can remember several balls he put on plates that didn’t get finished. Scouts won’t just look at assists. For example I think he’s only behind ASM for the most dribbles in the league.

[RVclaret]

He can’t shoot, hasn’t got any pace, hasn’t got a right foot, poor decision making at times. Whilst he’s clearly got talent he is extremely limited.

Second most completed dribbles in the league. Is an excellent crosser of a ball. Has the ability to pick out long range passes. All of this within a rigid defensive 4-4-2 framework with a crap centre midfield and zero technical strikers around him.

[CrosspoolClarets]

We all need a bit of a lift and a bit of hope, so to a degree forward thinking will help, because the media take is that we are shafted.

For me the crucial thing is to preserve a good back five. Keeping Mee feels important. He will be a benchwarmer at best in the PL. Then we keep PCF, Collins, Roberts and Taylor (they don’t all get to leave even if they want to). That’s a strong goalie / defence.

We make the money we need further upfield, selling McNeil, Cornet, Weghorst to add to Pope (assuming the middle two won’t want to stay with a release clause). We try to spend about £20m to fill some of those remaining slots. With Jay, JBG, Brownhill that could be the bones of a reasonable side.

It will be the owner’s task to find that £20m with renegotiations of this or that. That is vital. We can’t afford to just sell and not spend.

[Vegas Claret]

i genuinely can't wait to see some new younger faces

[DCWat]

F**king hell lads

We only got relegated about four hours ago!

Can we start this thread in July or something?

Perfect time to start looking ahead, it’s kind of cathartic after the disappointment of today.

[KlyBfc]

I was just starting to process things better and start talking to the wife then I saw the team the initial poster put on. I’m close to going back into my shell or maybe a full breakdown… the prospect of that side is horrific

[Indecisive]

If they want to stay…

Hennessey

Roberts, Collins, Mee, Taylor

New, Brownhill, New, McNeil

New, Weghorst

Pope and Tarks will go with my best wishes. Cornet will want out. Barnes, Cork, Lennon, Bardsley, Westwood, Stephens, JBG etc. should be gone. I just wish we hadn’t shown some daft sentiment to Jay Rod, because he’s been nowhere near good enough for a new contract either.

Cork should be gone and Jay Rod is nowhere near good enough for a new contract? Hate to say it mate, but if you think they aren’t good enough, and think we are going to be signing players of a higher quality than these two…. I think you’re likely to be disappointed.

First thing I’d be doing if I was Pace would be getting Mee to sign with a view to him progressing on the coaching side alongside playing. Mee and Collins would be an immense pairing for next year. I think a centre midfield pairing of Brownhill and Cork (I’d give him a new contract in the position we are in now) is good enough for the Championship.

I’m hoping Weghorst can do the business next year alongside Jay.

Slightly worried Brownhill may be one of the players who moves on, along with the more obvious ones of Pope, Cornet and McNeill.

It is a big rebuild, and it’s going to be hard on a shoestring, but Pace will be absolutely desperate to get back up. We’ve got to hope he’s got some aces up his sleeve… however unlikely it may be.

[BurnleyFC]

Cork should be gone and Jay Rod is nowhere near good enough for a new contract? Hate to say it mate, but if you think they aren’t good enough, and think we are going to be signing players of a higher quality than these two…. I think you’re likely to be disappointed.

First thing I’d be doing if I was Pace would be getting Mee to sign with a view to him progressing on the coaching side alongside playing. Mee and Collins would be an immense pairing for next year. I think a centre midfield pairing of Brownhill and Cork (I’d give him a new contract in the position we are in now) is good enough for the Championship.

I’m hoping Weghorst can do the business next year alongside Jay.

Slightly worried Brownhill may be one of the players who moves on, along with the more obvious ones of Pope, Cornet and McNeill.

It is a big rebuild, and it’s going to be hard on a shoestring, but Pace will be absolutely desperate to get back up. We’ve got to hope he’s got some aces up his sleeve… however unlikely it may be.

They’re both past it and will be on relatively big wages. I’d rather we didn’t go down the route of signing on pensioners again, even though it looks like we haven’t learnt our lesson with Rodriguez.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Now we know we have to repay the debt asap.

Hennessey
Roberts, Collins, Long, Taylor
Gudmundsson, Brownhill, New, New
New, Jay

Probably finish somewhere around low mid table.

[Pickles]

1st game of season, possible team:

Peacock-Farrell

Roberts Collins Thomas/Long Taylor

McNeil Brownhill Westwood Costelloe

JRod Richardson

Not a bad starting base, younger fresher and good base for a rebuild.

Players not included will of paid the debt off and huge wages off the bill

Hope not. Bottom half.

[ksrclaret]

Now we know we have to repay the debt asap.

Hennessey
Roberts, Collins, Long, Taylor
Gudmundsson, Brownhill, New, New
New, Jay

Probably finish somewhere around low mid table.

This obsession with 442 is horrendous.

Other formations are available, you know.

[Newcastleclaret93]

This obsession with 442 is horrendous.

Other formations are available, you know.

I think for this basic theoretical thread a 442 is fine to use as an example.

[Scott Arfield's Swag]

Hennessey/BPF

Roberts/Lowton

NEW/Mee/Long/Thomas

NEW/Pieters

NEW/JBG

NEW/NEW/Cork/Westwood

NEW/NEW

NEW/NEW/Jay/Vydra

All of Pope, Collins, Taylor, McNeil, Brownhill, Cornet and Weghorst to be sold if we can.
Fill any NEW spots with u23s if any deemed good enough for Championship football.
One hell of a rebuild needed and absolutely vital we appoint the right manager. Surely the strategy now has to be buy/sign young and sell for profit. Still a hell of a lot of experience in my squad above so not necessarily an immediate requirement imo.

[leightonjameslegend]

Huddersfield Town in the Play Offs with a squad assembled at around 3m.
Luton Town made Play Offs with a 1.5m squad.

Huddersfield model 4 loan signings, 13 Free Transfers, 4 Academy Players and 7 players were signed on a transfer fee.

Hence why the choice of manager now is so important.. Championship experience, contacts in the Prem for loan players and ability to work on a small budget.

So suddenly Farke looks a decent shout, especially as no compo. Rooney not sure but has good contacts for loan players. Can't see either Cooper or Coberan leaving.

[Colburn_Claret]

No idea predicting a team for next season, but I will reiterate what I said after the Brentford defeat. We have to use relegation as an opportunity . The squad is far too old, too slow, too immobile. The players have given us everything over the years, but the well has been empty for a while, for many players. The championship may not have the techniques of the prem, but for the most they are fast and direct.
We need a new midfield, and if there is any money to spend that is where it should go.
A big question still to be answered, is how many players we lose that we would rather we kept. Only time will tell.

[jedi_master]

Release: Barnes, Bardsley, Stephens, Lennon
Resign (1 year): Pieters, Cork, Vydra (retain for rehab, prospect to re-sign for second half of season)
Resign (2 year): Mee
Leaving of his own volition: Tarkowski
Sell: Cornet, Pope (£17.5m, £25m)
Sign: Jed Wallace (Free), John Swift (Free), Tom Lawrence (Free), Scott Twine (MK Dons - £1.5m)

-------------------------------------Hennessey
--Roberts-----------Collins----------------------Mee---------Taylor
---------------Brownhill-----------Swift--------Westwood
---Wallace---------------------Weghorst-------------------McNeil

Subs:
Peacock-Farrell
Long
Lowton
Pieters
Cork
Lawrence
Rodriguez
Twine
Richardson

[SalouClaret]

Release: Barnes, Bardsley, Stephens, Lennon
Resign (1 year): Pieters, Cork, Vydra (retain for rehab, prospect to re-sign for second half of season)
Resign (2 year): Mee
Leaving of his own volition: Tarkowski
Sell: Cornet, Pope (£17.5m, £25m)
Sign: Jed Wallace (Free), John Swift (Free), Tom Lawrence (Free), Scott Twine (MK Dons - £1.5m)

-------------------------------------Hennessey
--Roberts-----------Collins----------------------Mee---------Taylor
---------------Brownhill-----------Swift--------Westwood
---Wallace---------------------Weghorst-------------------McNeil

Subs:
Peacock-Farrell
Long
Lowton
Pieters
Cork
Lawrence
Rodriguez
Twine
Richardson

I'd take that. If we manage to keep that defence I think we'll be absolutely fine.