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Post by 18MD82 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:33 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:28 am
Its written in Turkish
So it is, my apologies

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Post by Smile » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:33 am

Talking of transfers, it'll be interesting to see how Leeds do next season now it looks like they've lost their 2 best players in Philips and Raphinha.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:34 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:24 am
Taylor Harwood-Bellis under Kompany at Anderlecht played a lot of his games on the right of a back 3 or at RB in a 4

He also played exactly the same positions at Stoke, he's played more on the right than centre

Also there is no CM in 4222 it's CDM
Just went through the stats.

He has played RB 4 times in his career. He has played LCB 19 times and RCB in over 50 games.

He has played in a back 3 on 9 occasions.
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Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:35 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:31 am
I mean CM and CDM in terms of real football clubs isn't a massive distinction. We're not trying to get 100% chemistry on an online football game here.
Jack Cork can play CM but not a chance he could play CDM that's the difference

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Post by Ric_C » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:38 am

Barton was more of a CDM, we've not really replaced him since he left. A fit Barton / Defour axis would have been a joy to watch
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:39 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:35 am
Jack Cork can play CM but not a chance he could play CDM that's the difference
Of course he could

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Post by CoolClaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:40 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:35 am
Jack Cork can play CM but not a chance he could play CDM that's the difference
? Of course he can

He played that role exclusively for Swansea for a good number of years
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:40 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:35 am
Jack Cork can play CM but not a chance he could play CDM that's the difference
Usually the key stat for that position is distance covered and Jack Cork used to be frequently in the top 3 in the PL for that.

Possibly his age might prevent him doing that now, but I still think he could do a job there in the Championship.

The man outran Ndidi and Kante in 2019.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:43 am

I predict we will sign another CM/CDM to rotate with Cork, it’s a long season. We’ve already been linked with Keita, Bastien, Cullen and Lokonga who play that role.

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Post by joey13 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:44 am

Smile wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:33 am
Talking of transfers, it'll be interesting to see how Leeds do next season now it looks like they've lost their 2 best players in Philips and Raphinha.
Dyche will be in by Christmas :o

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Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:45 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:40 am
? Of course he can

He played that role exclusively for Swansea for a good number of years
:lol: :lol: he played that role when he was a 26 to 28 year old, he turned 33 last week

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Post by CoolClaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:48 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:45 am
:lol: :lol: he played that role when he was a 26 to 28 year old, he turned 33 last week
So?

Grezza played there in the Pl at what 37?

Don’t need the athleticism as much as a sitter compared to a box to box player, it’s about anticipation and reading the game.

Lots of cms play deeper once they lose a step - you really don’t know football

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Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:49 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:43 am
I predict we will sign another CM/CDM to rotate with Cork, it’s a long season. We’ve already been linked with Keita, Bastien, Cullen and Lokonga who play that role.
The lad we are linked with at Rotherham would fit this role

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:49 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:45 am
:lol: :lol: he played that role when he was a 26 to 28 year old, he turned 33 last week
One of the best in the position was 37 in May and only just left the Prem.

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Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:50 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:48 am
So?

Grezza played there in the Pl at what 37?

Don’t need the athleticism as much as a sitter compared to a box to box player, it’s about anticipation and reading the game.

Lots of cms play deeper once they lose a step - you really don’t know football
If you think CM and CDM are the same you really don’t know football

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:51 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:49 am
The lad we are linked with at Rotherham would fit this role
No - quite the opposite.

He is a box to box type, assister / scorer, which in Kompany's system is the CM role next to the Cullen/Cork.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:52 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:51 am
No - quite the opposite.

He is a box to box type, assister / scorer, which in Kompany's system is the CM role next to the Cullen/Cork.
I agree, Wiles is definitely more of the attacker in the CM partnership.

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Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:54 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:51 am
No - quite the opposite.

He is a box to box type, assister / scorer, which in Kompany's system is the CM role next to the Cullen/Cork.
Read what I put after you said CM, it's not opposite is it, the lad from Rotherham would play CM

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Post by CoolClaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:57 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:50 am
If you think CM and CDM are the same you really don’t know football
Of course they aren’t the same - but you need less athleticism to play as a sitter than someone who’s expected to go box to box and drive with the ball.

Stamina doesn’t go like pace and acceleration go. Cork will be more than ok as a holding midfield player.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:59 am

If not CDM where is he playing

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Post by ClaretMov » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:00 am

According to Manchester evening news CJ Egan-Riley can play CB, RB and CDM, I like the flexibility of some of these player's Kompany is bringing in, and the average age of the squad will be mid 20's instead of mid 30's 😆 🤣

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Post by HalifaxClaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:06 am

What is all this CDM & CAM b*ll*cks?

You are a midfielder or a winger.
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:07 am

HalifaxClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:06 am
What is all this CDM & CAM b*ll*cks?

You are a midfielder or a winger.
:lol: unreal

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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:14 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:06 am
It's starting to pick up pace now, I think Kompany will go with


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Out of the two CAM position's I think one will be Twine

CJ Egan-Riley or Mcnally could possibly play CDM with the other playing along side Collins in CD if he stays.

Taylor Harwood-Bellis would play RB and Taylor LB
Harwood Bellis is a central defender and Egan-Riley is a cb/rb. I don't see why he'd play square pegs in round holes.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:14 am

It's not FIFA, lads.
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Post by SkiptonClaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:15 am

HalifaxClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:06 am
What is all this CDM & CAM b*ll*cks?

You are a midfielder or a winger.
Hello, Sean.
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Post by CoolClaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:16 am

quoonbeatz wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:14 am
It's not FIFA, lads.
Agreed - thought it was pretty common knowledge that as midfielders lose a yard they tend to play further back and are less ‘up and down’.

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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:20 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:34 am
Just went through the stats.

He has played RB 4 times in his career. He has played LCB 19 times and RCB in over 50 games.

He has played in a back 3 on 9 occasions.
I don't think he's ever played right back for Anderlecht, Murillo is the right back there. Kompany started with a back 3 and he played on the right hand side of the 3, Kompany switched to a 4 back and THB's gametime was quickly limited.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:23 am

HalifaxClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:06 am
What is all this CDM & CAM b*ll*cks?

You are a midfielder or a winger.
Some highly qualified coaches on this thread 😁 Midfielders who can pass a ball more than 10 yards, preferably to another Burnley player, would be a good start 😉
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Post by DCWat » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:24 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:23 am
Some highly qualified coaches on this thread 😁 Midfielders who can pass a ball more than 10 yards, preferably to another Burnley player, would be a good start 😉
It’s not a surprise that we’ve forgotten that midfielders can do those things though :D
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Post by JR1882 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:25 am

HalifaxClaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:06 am
What is all this CDM & CAM b*ll*cks?

You are a midfielder or a winger.
Sean is that you?

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:26 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:20 am
I don't think he's ever played right back for Anderlecht, Murillo is the right back there. Kompany started with a back 3 and he played on the right hand side of the 3, Kompany switched to a 4 back and THB's gametime was quickly limited.
Are you thinking Kompany may start with a back 3 here?

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Post by HalifaxClaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:27 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:23 am
Some highly qualified coaches on this thread 😁 Midfielders who can pass a ball more than 10 yards, preferably to another Burnley player, would be a good start 😉
I don't think they are coaches. They just lock themselves in their bedrooms and play computer games apart from when they are looking at 'stats'.
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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:28 am

DCWat wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:24 am
It’s not a surprise that we’ve forgotten that midfielders can do those things though :D
According to some on here we're about to dominate possession with a midfield pairing of Cork and Brownhill :lol:
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:29 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:26 am
Are you thinking Kompany may start with a back 3 here?
I was thinking he was going for a back three and that's why we're bringing three centre backs in, but most seemed to think it was because Collins is going.
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:29 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:28 am
According to some on here we're about to dominate possession with a midfield pairing of Cork and Brownhill :lol:

After seeing Brownhill away at Leeds last season when he was the cause of the defeat there is no chance of that happening
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Post by CnBtruntru » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:32 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:23 am
Some highly qualified coaches on this thread 😁 Midfielders who can pass a ball more than 10 yards, preferably to another Burnley player, would be a good start 😉
Anybody who can pass a ball to one our own would be good :o

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Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:33 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:29 am
After seeing Brownhill away at Leeds last season when he was the cause of the defeat there is no chance of that happening
:lol: Am I right in saying this was the game he didn’t even play in? Trying to remember who called him out for it now
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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:37 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:26 am
Are you thinking Kompany may start with a back 3 here?
I think so but Egan-Riley, Mcnally and Harwood-Bellis is an incredibly inexperienced back 3.
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:38 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:37 am
I think so but Egan-Riley, Mcnally and Harwood-Bellis is an incredibly inexperienced back 3.
That's why I think he wants Collins to stay at least a season, and why I think it will be an astronomical bid to get us to sell.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:44 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:33 am
:lol: Am I right in saying this was the game he didn’t even play in? Trying to remember who called him out for it now
He wasn't even in the squad, so it's impressive that he got blamed for it :lol:
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Post by Smile » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:49 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:33 am
:lol: Am I right in saying this was the game he didn’t even play in? Trying to remember who called him out for it now
Haha, I must have missed that, who said what?

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:51 am

Smile wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:49 am
Haha, I must have missed that, who said what?
Resident football expert KRBFC was slandering Brownhill and roasting him for how poor he was at Leeds away last season, blaming him for our shocking midfield performance there.

Thing is, he wasn’t even in the squad for that game.

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Post by bumba » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:58 am

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:37 am
I think so but Egan-Riley, Mcnally and Harwood-Bellis is an incredibly inexperienced back 3.
Harwood-Bellis is more experienced that Kevin Long in the championship, he's more experienced than Tarky was when he signed for Brentford, more experience than Tripper and Mee when we signed them. I think the other two are backup to Collins and THB
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Post by Steddyman » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:59 am

If there is anything Brownhill is good at, it is being a workhorse and chasing down the ball.

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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:00 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:51 am
Resident football expert KRBFC was slandering Brownhill and roasting him for how poor he was at Leeds away last season, blaming him for our shocking midfield performance there.

Thing is, he wasn’t even in the squad for that game.
wait, you didn't get the joke?

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Post by jtv » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:00 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:51 am
Resident football expert KRBFC was slandering Brownhill and roasting him for how poor he was at Leeds away last season, blaming him for our shocking midfield performance there.

Thing is, he wasn’t even in the squad for that game.
Who wasn't even in the squad - KRBFC? :) :)

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:04 am

It costs the sharp end of £10k for a UEFA Pro Licence.
Our resident 'experts' pay around £40 for Football Manager.
Make what you will of that. 😉
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:04 am

It’s all good banter roasting KRBFC for that but his point stands. Our midfield was abysmal for 90% of the season last year. It’s got to be an area that’s improved upon this window.
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Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:11 am

I still think we need to replace Cork, Westwood, Barnes amd Rodriguez, who are all too old now for a season in the Championship. Am I asking for too much?

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