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Post by Conroysleftfoot » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:52 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:50 pm
Brownhill is rubbish yet there are reports of a number of Prem clubs wanting him? Who to believe!!
If you think he is rubbish just what level do you think he is at?

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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:53 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:07 pm
Dominating possession isn't technically taxing, it's a system issue. Cork and Brownhill will easily be able to be part of a team that dominated possession as long as the system they are deployed in is correctly drilled to do so.
Of course it's a system thing but you need players particularly in the middle of the pitch capable of it, it's typically a talent thing more than coaching. Brownhill's an athlete more than a footballer, better without the ball than with it. I'm not sure you can teach someone like Brownhill the composure, touch, turn, pass like a Defour type, who I'd say was more footballer than athlete. It's in the DNA makeup of a footballer, it's not a knock on Brownhill it's just not his strengths.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:55 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:50 pm
Isn’t including those games better as it provides a fairer balance to things? After all, the gap between the PL and Champ is massive.

For what it’s worth, Jay averaged a goal every 2.5 games last season if we go off minutes per goal. A goal contribution (goal or assist) every 2 games. That suddenly paints a much different picture to your ‘3 in 60’ shout.
How do you get that?

He played 29 league games (1371 minutes) and scored twice.

Based on minutes it’s 8 games per goal?

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Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:57 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:52 pm
If you think he is rubbish just what level do you think he is at?
Sorry, I don’t think he is rubbish, many on here seem to think he is, despite the stats and a number of other clubs allegedly expressing an interest, who to believe was my rhetorical question

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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:58 pm

Now there is room for Brownhill, I think he'll be fine in the Championship but will need instantly replacing in the PL. He just needs someone next to him better than Cork in key areas.
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Post by KateR » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:58 pm

Vincent Kompany’s Burnley are in their pursuit of £4 million KV Oostende striker Makhtar Gueye I'm still interested to see whether Vydra is going to be part of the new look for the season start, seems VK has the defense sorted if the two MC boys come in as predicted by many.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:55 pm
How do you get that?

He played 29 league games (1371 minutes) and scored twice.

Based on minutes it’s 8 games per goal?
My point was why would you not include cup games? We are playing in the Championship. Including games against Rochdale and Huddersfield is just as relevant to including games v Man City and Liverpool, it adds balance.

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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:01 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:59 pm
My point was why would you not include cup games? We are playing in the Championship. Including games against Rochdale and Huddersfield is just as relevant to including games v Man City and Liverpool, it adds balance.
may aswell include pre-season friendly games too

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:01 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:59 pm
My point was why would you not include cup games? We are playing in the Championship. Including games against Rochdale and Huddersfield is just as relevant to including games v Man City and Liverpool, it adds balance.
Why would you add goals against the fifth worst team in the entire football league? Surely that just inflates his season figures?

League goals are the ones that count.

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Post by Conroysleftfoot » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:03 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:57 pm
Sorry, I don’t think he is rubbish, many on here seem to think he is, despite the stats and a number of other clubs allegedly expressing an interest, who to believe was my rhetorical question
Sorry, should have got what you meant. Just reacted as many on here seem to be keen to have a go at him.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:06 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:01 pm
may aswell include pre-season friendly games too
That's just daft.
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:01 pm
Why would you add goals against the fifth worst team in the entire football league? Surely that just inflates his season figures?

League goals are the ones that count.
No one is saying Jay has been prolific in the PL. Though I believe we were a better team with him in the side last season.

It's this '3 in 60' that's not very useful when discussing how he will do well in the Championship. Firstly, it doesn't take into account minutes per goal, which is a better reflection and secondly, the standard of PL defences is way way way superior to Championship.

I think using competitive fixtures provides a better and more accurate balance.

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Post by clive40golf » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:09 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:11 am
I still think we need to replace Cork, Westwood, Barnes amd Rodriguez, who are all too old now for a season in the Championship. Am I asking for too much?

Yes, I think you are buddy.
Just because a player is over 32, doesn’t make him a spent force.
Plenty of players over 35 still rocking their relative division

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:12 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:24 am
Rodriguez has 3 goals in his last 60 games but people think he's gonna start smashing them in, unrealistic, zero recent evidence of that. We need a goalscorer.
look at the chances we created for our strikers under Dyche. He's not going to score twenty in a season when he only gets 10 chances
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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:13 pm

let's not forget Lowton - his experience in the 23 undefeated season could be really useful considering how many young lads we suddenly seem to be accumulating
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Post by Oldparkwood » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:13 pm

Why is it so difficult for a few posters not to keep this thread on topic. It really is becoming tedious scrolling through pages of absolute drivel to see if there are actually any links.
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Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:14 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:01 pm
Why would you add goals against the fifth worst team in the entire football league? Surely that just inflates his season figures?

League goals are the ones that count.
Goals are the ones that count.
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Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:15 pm

Anyway, my work here is done again, just stepped in to bin off that meaningless 3 in 60 stat that's been wheeled out again.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:21 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:42 pm
Imagine bringing up figures from 5 years ago lol
A. It's not 5 years ago, he's only been at Burnley for 3 seasons.
B. It's more relevant than figures from a league that's probably more than double the standard.
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Post by ecc » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:39 pm

tom210 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:13 pm
Why is it so difficult for a few posters not to keep this thread on topic. It really is becoming tedious scrolling through pages of absolute drivel to see if there are actually any links.
Too right. This thread will end up being pulled due to people who are seemingly illiterate or just irresponsible.

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Post by Notsosuperstevedavis » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:43 pm

Have we signed someone yet today?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:44 pm

back on topic, been reading a few things from City fans about CJ from City - noticed a couple saying he's head and shoulders above where Trippier was at the same age - that'll do !

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Post by louieollie » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:45 pm

tom210 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:13 pm
Why is it so difficult for a few posters not to keep this thread on topic. It really is becoming tedious scrolling through pages of absolute drivel to see if there are actually any links.
Could the mods not shut it down 🙏..........can't help but think some folk on here really should either get a job OR do the job they are supposed to be doing during the day rather than spend their time sabotaging every topic they find !!

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Post by joey13 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:51 pm

jackmiggins wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:50 pm
I think so, but feel I have to comment on the tedious nature of the **** that's posted on here. Thanks for your concern though.
Fair enough Jack

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Post by LaLigaClaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:51 pm

Apologies for not sticking to the transfer links thread but In had to put in my tuppence worth regarding some of our players.

There are a number of posters who say certain players are rubbish but they often forget that these players can sometimes only be as good as the rest of the players are performing, or are being played out of position or doing the job they were instructed to do.

In this respect Brownhill is not rubbish as all the above apply to him. In the Championship I think he will do a fine job for us. McNeil will look a far better player this year if he is supported by a better midfield, a change in system or formation and not having to look for balls lumped forwards up the pitch.

Barnes and JayRod will be ok in the Championship not prolific but will score more than in the PL. I do agree however that we do need at least one out and out striker and another forward (a number 10 ?)who can convert though as Weghorst will be gone and Vydra may also be gone.

Twine coming in will help , we need another player like O'Brien from 'Uddersfield in midfield especially as Westy is out for a while. We definintely need another wide player to replace Lennon and the ailing JBG.

Exciting times

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Post by Bullabill » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:00 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:44 pm
back on topic, been reading a few things from City fans about CJ from City - noticed a couple saying he's head and shoulders above where Trippier was at the same age - that'll do !
CJ from City? Do us a favour to save all the scrolling through the rubbish on here - who is CJ?

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Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:01 pm

Bullabill wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:00 pm
CJ from City? Do us a favour to save all the scrolling through the rubbish on here - who is CJ?
Dude off Eggheads.
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Post by Smile » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:04 pm

Sorry to go off-topic with transfer rumours.

"West Ham United set for contact with Burnley over Josh Brownhill, Maxwel Cornet and Dwight McNeil"
https://www.westhamzone.com/transfers/w ... ht-mcneil/

£20 million for Brownhill? Interesting.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:05 pm

Smile wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:04 pm
Sorry to go off-topic with transfer rumours.

"West Ham United set for contact with Burnley over Josh Brownhill, Maxwel Cornet and Dwight McNeil"
https://www.westhamzone.com/transfers/w ... ht-mcneil/

£20 million for Brownhill? Interesting.
Snap there hand off and laugh haha.

That’s on par with Maguire for 80m
Sigurdsson for 50m
Etc….

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:07 pm

Smile wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:04 pm
Sorry to go off-topic with transfer rumours.

"West Ham United set for contact with Burnley over Josh Brownhill, Maxwel Cornet and Dwight McNeil"
https://www.westhamzone.com/transfers/w ... ht-mcneil/

£20 million for Brownhill? Interesting.
According to the press 7 clubs are chasing Brownhill.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:07 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:05 pm
Snap there hand off and laugh haha.

That’s on par with Maguire for 80m
Sigurdsson for 50m
Etc….
Not really on a par let's be honest.

Just because you have a pathological hatred of the guy, anyone else with half a brain can see what he offers.
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Post by elwaclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:07 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:01 pm
Dude off Eggheads.
Hope not he’s serving time for the murder(a homeless person in Amsterdam). Damned by his own autobiography, where he bragged of pushing “a tramp in the canal” - which was used in evidence.

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Post by LoveCurryPies » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:08 pm

Is this likely? (sorry I haven’t read earlier posts)
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Post by Smile » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:09 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:08 pm
Is this likely? (sorry I haven’t read earlier posts)
I'd say very likely. I'd be very surprised if both didn't go through.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:09 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:07 pm
Not really on a par let's be honest.

Just because you have a pathological hatred of the guy, anyone else with half a brain can see what he offers.
20m for a guy that can’t pass a football is breathtaking money.

On par with them two transfers

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:11 pm

Smile wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:04 pm
Sorry to go off-topic with transfer rumours.

"West Ham United set for contact with Burnley over Josh Brownhill, Maxwel Cornet and Dwight McNeil"
https://www.westhamzone.com/transfers/w ... ht-mcneil/

£20 million for Brownhill? Interesting.
'But will swoop only if their main targets are unavailable'

Odd nothing story?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:18 pm

Bullabill wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:00 pm
CJ from City? Do us a favour to save all the scrolling through the rubbish on here - who is CJ?
CJ Egan-Riley

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:21 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:09 pm
20m for a guy that can’t pass a football is breathtaking money.

On par with them two transfers
Yawn.
He can pass a ball, he can do various things but he was given specific roles/tasks by Dyche during the majority of his time here.

Like I said, you've got a pathological hatred of the guy, which is odd considering how much you were initially excited by his signing when we got him.

Just get over it.

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Post by clive40golf » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:22 pm

Nearly all the football knowledge in the uk think Brownhill is some player. One or two posters on here think different.
Now who am I to believe??
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:24 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:44 pm
back on topic, been reading a few things from City fans about CJ from City - noticed a couple saying he's head and shoulders above where Trippier was at the same age - that'll do !
I saw similar - they reckon we’ve got an absolute steal.

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Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:31 pm

clive40golf wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:22 pm
Nearly all the football knowledge in the uk think Brownhill is some player. One or two posters on here think different.
Now who am I to believe??
Some Championship player. I think you’ve underestimated it with one or two posters. If petrol was 4 times as much I’d still drive him to London for that fee.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:32 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:24 pm
I saw similar - they reckon we’ve got an absolute steal.
fingers crossed !!! Not much senior experience but if you've been knocking around that City first team as he has you should be comfortably good enough for us in the Championship !

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Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:33 pm

Brownhill excellent. A possible captain.
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Post by KRBFC » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:33 pm

clive40golf wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:22 pm
Nearly all the football knowledge in the uk think Brownhill is some player. One or two posters on here think different.
Now who am I to believe??
believe your pretend source inside the club, you've not got one right yet!!! You must be closing in on 0/10

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:34 pm

all the people bagging on Brownhill - just remember Joelinton was an absolute laughing stock under Steve Bruce, player of the season under Howe. Managers and ideas can completely change how a player operates

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Post by the_magic_rat » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:36 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:29 am
After seeing Brownhill away at Leeds last season when he was the cause of the defeat there is no chance of that happening
Whilst Brownhill wasn't great at Leeds he wouldn't be the first name on my list of those culpable for what was a wretched performance.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:37 pm

the_magic_rat wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:36 pm
Whilst Brownhill wasn't great at Leeds he wouldn't be the first name on my list of those culpable for what was a wretched performance.
BREAKING: Brownhill did not play at Leeds
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:37 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:05 pm
Snap there hand off and laugh haha.

That’s on par with Maguire for 80m
Sigurdsson for 50m
Etc….
Has he slept with your wife or something?

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Post by bobinho » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:39 pm

louieollie wrote:
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Could the mods not shut it down 🙏..........can't help but think some folk on here really should either get a job OR do the job they are supposed to be doing during the day rather than spend their time sabotaging every topic they find !!
Until they do, stick em on the “foe” list, then you don’t have to read their constant trolling.
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Re: Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:42 pm

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BREAKING: Brownhill did not play at Leeds
it's quite staggering isn't it

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Re: Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Mattster » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:43 pm

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Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:53 pm
Of course it's a system thing but you need players particularly in the middle of the pitch capable of it, it's typically a talent thing more than coaching. Brownhill's an athlete more than a footballer, better without the ball than with it. I'm not sure you can teach someone like Brownhill the composure, touch, turn, pass like a Defour type, who I'd say was more footballer than athlete. It's in the DNA makeup of a footballer, it's not a knock on Brownhill it's just not his strengths.
You don't need a Defour type to dominate possession, it would be helpful for being more incisive but not for simply retaining the ball if the system being deployed is set up to do so. Put Brownhill in a system geared towards providing more passing options, time and space and he'll contribute to dominating possession just fine.

His athleticism will also contribute to creating space for the more creative players, pressing and covering for loss of possession.

We could upgrade to a more incisive player but I doubt it's high on the list of priorities for Kompany and imagine unless we sell Brownhill he'll start the season as first choice in his position.
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