If you think he is rubbish just what level do you think he is at?Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:50 pmBrownhill is rubbish yet there are reports of a number of Prem clubs wanting him? Who to believe!!
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Of course it's a system thing but you need players particularly in the middle of the pitch capable of it, it's typically a talent thing more than coaching. Brownhill's an athlete more than a footballer, better without the ball than with it. I'm not sure you can teach someone like Brownhill the composure, touch, turn, pass like a Defour type, who I'd say was more footballer than athlete. It's in the DNA makeup of a footballer, it's not a knock on Brownhill it's just not his strengths.
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How do you get that?RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:50 pmIsn’t including those games better as it provides a fairer balance to things? After all, the gap between the PL and Champ is massive.
For what it’s worth, Jay averaged a goal every 2.5 games last season if we go off minutes per goal. A goal contribution (goal or assist) every 2 games. That suddenly paints a much different picture to your ‘3 in 60’ shout.
He played 29 league games (1371 minutes) and scored twice.
Based on minutes it’s 8 games per goal?
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Sorry, I don’t think he is rubbish, many on here seem to think he is, despite the stats and a number of other clubs allegedly expressing an interest, who to believe was my rhetorical questionConroysleftfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:52 pmIf you think he is rubbish just what level do you think he is at?
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Now there is room for Brownhill, I think he'll be fine in the Championship but will need instantly replacing in the PL. He just needs someone next to him better than Cork in key areas.
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Vincent Kompany’s Burnley are in their pursuit of £4 million KV Oostende striker Makhtar Gueye I'm still interested to see whether Vydra is going to be part of the new look for the season start, seems VK has the defense sorted if the two MC boys come in as predicted by many.
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My point was why would you not include cup games? We are playing in the Championship. Including games against Rochdale and Huddersfield is just as relevant to including games v Man City and Liverpool, it adds balance.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:55 pmHow do you get that?
He played 29 league games (1371 minutes) and scored twice.
Based on minutes it’s 8 games per goal?
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may aswell include pre-season friendly games too
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Why would you add goals against the fifth worst team in the entire football league? Surely that just inflates his season figures?
League goals are the ones that count.
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Sorry, should have got what you meant. Just reacted as many on here seem to be keen to have a go at him.Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:57 pmSorry, I don’t think he is rubbish, many on here seem to think he is, despite the stats and a number of other clubs allegedly expressing an interest, who to believe was my rhetorical question
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That's just daft.
No one is saying Jay has been prolific in the PL. Though I believe we were a better team with him in the side last season.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:01 pmWhy would you add goals against the fifth worst team in the entire football league? Surely that just inflates his season figures?
League goals are the ones that count.
It's this '3 in 60' that's not very useful when discussing how he will do well in the Championship. Firstly, it doesn't take into account minutes per goal, which is a better reflection and secondly, the standard of PL defences is way way way superior to Championship.
I think using competitive fixtures provides a better and more accurate balance.
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Vino blanco wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:11 amI still think we need to replace Cork, Westwood, Barnes amd Rodriguez, who are all too old now for a season in the Championship. Am I asking for too much?
Yes, I think you are buddy.
Just because a player is over 32, doesn’t make him a spent force.
Plenty of players over 35 still rocking their relative division
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look at the chances we created for our strikers under Dyche. He's not going to score twenty in a season when he only gets 10 chances
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let's not forget Lowton - his experience in the 23 undefeated season could be really useful considering how many young lads we suddenly seem to be accumulating
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Why is it so difficult for a few posters not to keep this thread on topic. It really is becoming tedious scrolling through pages of absolute drivel to see if there are actually any links.
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Goals are the ones that count.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:01 pmWhy would you add goals against the fifth worst team in the entire football league? Surely that just inflates his season figures?
League goals are the ones that count.
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Anyway, my work here is done again, just stepped in to bin off that meaningless 3 in 60 stat that's been wheeled out again.
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A. It's not 5 years ago, he's only been at Burnley for 3 seasons.
B. It's more relevant than figures from a league that's probably more than double the standard.
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Too right. This thread will end up being pulled due to people who are seemingly illiterate or just irresponsible.
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Have we signed someone yet today?
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back on topic, been reading a few things from City fans about CJ from City - noticed a couple saying he's head and shoulders above where Trippier was at the same age - that'll do !
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Could the mods not shut it down ..........can't help but think some folk on here really should either get a job OR do the job they are supposed to be doing during the day rather than spend their time sabotaging every topic they find !!
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Fair enough Jackjackmiggins wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:50 pmI think so, but feel I have to comment on the tedious nature of the **** that's posted on here. Thanks for your concern though.
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Apologies for not sticking to the transfer links thread but In had to put in my tuppence worth regarding some of our players.
There are a number of posters who say certain players are rubbish but they often forget that these players can sometimes only be as good as the rest of the players are performing, or are being played out of position or doing the job they were instructed to do.
In this respect Brownhill is not rubbish as all the above apply to him. In the Championship I think he will do a fine job for us. McNeil will look a far better player this year if he is supported by a better midfield, a change in system or formation and not having to look for balls lumped forwards up the pitch.
Barnes and JayRod will be ok in the Championship not prolific but will score more than in the PL. I do agree however that we do need at least one out and out striker and another forward (a number 10 ?)who can convert though as Weghorst will be gone and Vydra may also be gone.
Twine coming in will help , we need another player like O'Brien from 'Uddersfield in midfield especially as Westy is out for a while. We definintely need another wide player to replace Lennon and the ailing JBG.
Exciting times
There are a number of posters who say certain players are rubbish but they often forget that these players can sometimes only be as good as the rest of the players are performing, or are being played out of position or doing the job they were instructed to do.
In this respect Brownhill is not rubbish as all the above apply to him. In the Championship I think he will do a fine job for us. McNeil will look a far better player this year if he is supported by a better midfield, a change in system or formation and not having to look for balls lumped forwards up the pitch.
Barnes and JayRod will be ok in the Championship not prolific but will score more than in the PL. I do agree however that we do need at least one out and out striker and another forward (a number 10 ?)who can convert though as Weghorst will be gone and Vydra may also be gone.
Twine coming in will help , we need another player like O'Brien from 'Uddersfield in midfield especially as Westy is out for a while. We definintely need another wide player to replace Lennon and the ailing JBG.
Exciting times
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CJ from City? Do us a favour to save all the scrolling through the rubbish on here - who is CJ?Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:44 pmback on topic, been reading a few things from City fans about CJ from City - noticed a couple saying he's head and shoulders above where Trippier was at the same age - that'll do !
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Dude off Eggheads.
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Sorry to go off-topic with transfer rumours.
"West Ham United set for contact with Burnley over Josh Brownhill, Maxwel Cornet and Dwight McNeil"
https://www.westhamzone.com/transfers/w ... ht-mcneil/
£20 million for Brownhill? Interesting.
"West Ham United set for contact with Burnley over Josh Brownhill, Maxwel Cornet and Dwight McNeil"
https://www.westhamzone.com/transfers/w ... ht-mcneil/
£20 million for Brownhill? Interesting.
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Snap there hand off and laugh haha.Smile wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:04 pmSorry to go off-topic with transfer rumours.
"West Ham United set for contact with Burnley over Josh Brownhill, Maxwel Cornet and Dwight McNeil"
https://www.westhamzone.com/transfers/w ... ht-mcneil/
£20 million for Brownhill? Interesting.
That’s on par with Maguire for 80m
Sigurdsson for 50m
Etc….
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According to the press 7 clubs are chasing Brownhill.Smile wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:04 pmSorry to go off-topic with transfer rumours.
"West Ham United set for contact with Burnley over Josh Brownhill, Maxwel Cornet and Dwight McNeil"
https://www.westhamzone.com/transfers/w ... ht-mcneil/
£20 million for Brownhill? Interesting.
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Not really on a par let's be honest.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:05 pmSnap there hand off and laugh haha.
That’s on par with Maguire for 80m
Sigurdsson for 50m
Etc….
Just because you have a pathological hatred of the guy, anyone else with half a brain can see what he offers.
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Hope not he’s serving time for the murder(a homeless person in Amsterdam). Damned by his own autobiography, where he bragged of pushing “a tramp in the canal” - which was used in evidence.
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Is this likely? (sorry I haven’t read earlier posts)
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I'd say very likely. I'd be very surprised if both didn't go through.
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20m for a guy that can’t pass a football is breathtaking money.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:07 pmNot really on a par let's be honest.
Just because you have a pathological hatred of the guy, anyone else with half a brain can see what he offers.
On par with them two transfers
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'But will swoop only if their main targets are unavailable'Smile wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:04 pmSorry to go off-topic with transfer rumours.
"West Ham United set for contact with Burnley over Josh Brownhill, Maxwel Cornet and Dwight McNeil"
https://www.westhamzone.com/transfers/w ... ht-mcneil/
£20 million for Brownhill? Interesting.
Odd nothing story?
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Yawn.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:09 pm20m for a guy that can’t pass a football is breathtaking money.
On par with them two transfers
He can pass a ball, he can do various things but he was given specific roles/tasks by Dyche during the majority of his time here.
Like I said, you've got a pathological hatred of the guy, which is odd considering how much you were initially excited by his signing when we got him.
Just get over it.
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Nearly all the football knowledge in the uk think Brownhill is some player. One or two posters on here think different.
Now who am I to believe??
Now who am I to believe??
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I saw similar - they reckon we’ve got an absolute steal.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:44 pmback on topic, been reading a few things from City fans about CJ from City - noticed a couple saying he's head and shoulders above where Trippier was at the same age - that'll do !
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Some Championship player. I think you’ve underestimated it with one or two posters. If petrol was 4 times as much I’d still drive him to London for that fee.clive40golf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:22 pmNearly all the football knowledge in the uk think Brownhill is some player. One or two posters on here think different.
Now who am I to believe??
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Brownhill excellent. A possible captain.
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believe your pretend source inside the club, you've not got one right yet!!! You must be closing in on 0/10clive40golf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:22 pmNearly all the football knowledge in the uk think Brownhill is some player. One or two posters on here think different.
Now who am I to believe??
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all the people bagging on Brownhill - just remember Joelinton was an absolute laughing stock under Steve Bruce, player of the season under Howe. Managers and ideas can completely change how a player operates
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Whilst Brownhill wasn't great at Leeds he wouldn't be the first name on my list of those culpable for what was a wretched performance.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:29 amAfter seeing Brownhill away at Leeds last season when he was the cause of the defeat there is no chance of that happening
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BREAKING: Brownhill did not play at Leedsthe_magic_rat wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:36 pmWhilst Brownhill wasn't great at Leeds he wouldn't be the first name on my list of those culpable for what was a wretched performance.
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Has he slept with your wife or something?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:05 pmSnap there hand off and laugh haha.
That’s on par with Maguire for 80m
Sigurdsson for 50m
Etc….
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Until they do, stick em on the “foe” list, then you don’t have to read their constant trolling.louieollie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:45 pmCould the mods not shut it down ..........can't help but think some folk on here really should either get a job OR do the job they are supposed to be doing during the day rather than spend their time sabotaging every topic they find !!
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You don't need a Defour type to dominate possession, it would be helpful for being more incisive but not for simply retaining the ball if the system being deployed is set up to do so. Put Brownhill in a system geared towards providing more passing options, time and space and he'll contribute to dominating possession just fine.KRBFC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:53 pmOf course it's a system thing but you need players particularly in the middle of the pitch capable of it, it's typically a talent thing more than coaching. Brownhill's an athlete more than a footballer, better without the ball than with it. I'm not sure you can teach someone like Brownhill the composure, touch, turn, pass like a Defour type, who I'd say was more footballer than athlete. It's in the DNA makeup of a footballer, it's not a knock on Brownhill it's just not his strengths.
His athleticism will also contribute to creating space for the more creative players, pressing and covering for loss of possession.
We could upgrade to a more incisive player but I doubt it's high on the list of priorities for Kompany and imagine unless we sell Brownhill he'll start the season as first choice in his position.
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