Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[mdd2]

Seems odd to have the expense of a medical before personal terms agreed.

[Murger]

Seems odd to have the expense of a medical before personal terms agreed.

We can only assume they've gotten a bit greedy at the last minute.

[NewClaret]

It was a bit of a gamble which has turned out to be an expensive gamble.

I can see the thought process of signing him, you’d have hoped his 1 in 2 record in Germany could be carried over here (even at 1 in 3) and that he could have fired us to safety.

As we know it didn’t work out that way.

It was a very reasonable risk to take. 1 in 4 would likely have kept us up!

I think his words since going down have been very poor and he’s now alienated himself from the fans but I still think when we played to his strengths (not Dycheball) we looked a much better team with him in it.

[TsarBomba]

Not sure if posted already, but Salernitana are in advanced talks with Ben Brereton, according to Gianluca Di Marzio.

[NewClaret]

Not sure if posted already, but Salernitana are in advanced talks with Ben Brereton, according to Gianluca Di Marzio.

They’re either going to go on a spending spree or will have no players left?!

[Woonderbah]

It's a baffling move on his part.. no disrespect to Turkey's league but is it any more high profile than the Championship ?.. surely if his main aim is to stay in Van Gaal's thoughts for the World Cup, it would be much easier to take in a Championship game in the same weekend as a Premier League game rather than VG travelling to Turkey.. Agree with what's already been said that Weghorst could've set the Championship alight next season and after so much initial expectation it's a shame he'll be quickly forgotten.. The idea of skipping a season in the Championship and waltzing back into the team on promotion was preposterous for team morale.
Onwards and upwards say I.

[Top Claret]

Reading different things about Roberts moving on.

Sounds to me he wants out and his agent is touting him about, from what I have seen of him he isn't a Premium league player.

[Pearcey]

Besiktas have a 7.5m euro option to buy Weghorst

Quite a substantial loss of money on Weghorst

They might not take the option once they get to know him.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

It's a baffling move on his part.. no disrespect to Turkey's league but is it any more high profile than the Championship ?.. surely if his main aim is to stay in Van Gaal's thoughts for the World Cup, it would be much easier to take in a Championship game in the same weekend as a Premier League game rather than VG travelling to Turkey.. Agree with what's already been said that Weghorst could've set the Championship alight next season and after so much initial expectation it's a shame he'll be quickly forgotten.. The idea of skipping a season in the Championship and waltzing back into the team on promotion was preposterous for team morale.
Onwards and upwards say I.

I personally think the whole 'Van Gaal World Cup' thing is total ********. Otherwise he could take a short 6 month move somewhere and come back when the WC is over. He clearly just doesn't want to play in the Championship, or take a hit on his wages.

There's no way that if Weghorst stayed with us and put up big number he would has any less chance of going to the World Cup than if he played in the Turkish top flight. He's still being picked now after a dreadful 6 months in Premier League. That says they are very low on options in that department.

Could you imagine Southgate picking an England striker who'd scored 2 goals in 6 months?

[ClaretMov]

Besiktas have a 7.5m euro option to buy Weghorst

Quite a substantial loss of money on Weghorst

Bloody hell hope we are charging them a 5m loan fee, what a loss

[Top Claret]

Besiktas have a 7.5m euro option to buy Weghorst

Quite a substantial loss of money on Weghorst

If you lump Wood and Weghorst together as one deal we have made a profit of 25 million so not really a loss, although Weghorst contributed little

[claretonthecoast1882]

Bloody hell hope we are charging them a 5m loan fee, what a loss

The other option is keep him, which would you prefer ?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Bloody hell hope we are charging them a 5m loan fee, what a loss

It’s not confirmed but rumours are they are paying 2m euro for his services (so in my eyes it looks like they are just covering his wages).

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

They are paying a 1 million loan free, 7.5 million if they buy and it saves us about 3.5 million in wages this season.

It's about as much as we could have hoped for given his form since he came.

[Newcastleclaret93]

They are paying a 1 million loan free, 7.5 million if they buy and it saves us about 3.5 million in wages this season.

It's about as much as we could have hoped for given his form since he came.

If you put a positive spin on it. The saving in wages is going to pay for Egan Riley in full.

Not bad when you think of it that way.

Then the transfer fee next summer can be used for recruitment.

[Boss Hogg]

Weghorst will never cut it as PL striker. Looks like he has a poor attitude too. Let’s hope we can offload him and recoup some money if he knocks a few in in the Turkish league.
Ballard could have failed a medical but we’ve agree to state it’s personal terms so as not to jeopardise any other move for him.

[Newcastleclaret93]

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/90 ... sh-player/

Not sure if this has been posted but it appears plenty of prem clubs are after Collins.

[ŽižkovClaret]

It's a baffling move on his part.. no disrespect to Turkey's league but is it any more high profile than the Championship ?.. surely if his main aim is to stay in Van Gaal's thoughts for the World Cup, it would be much easier to take in a Championship game in the same weekend as a Premier League game rather than VG travelling to Turkey.. Agree with what's already been said that Weghorst could've set the Championship alight next season and after so much initial expectation it's a shame he'll be quickly forgotten.. The idea of skipping a season in the Championship and waltzing back into the team on promotion was preposterous for team morale.
Onwards and upwards say I.

Turkey is certainly a regular payday stop off for Czech players after their main footballing period in the Bundesliga, so its not unheard of for German-based players to wind up there.

If anything, the move to England was the unusual one

[Burnley Ace]

Weghorst is Dutch, if you know the Dutch they can be quite blunt and forthright when expressing themselves!!

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/90 ... sh-player/

Not sure if this has been posted but it appears plenty of prem clubs are after Collins.

Not sure I buy these Collins links. Judging by what I see on Twitter, it seems to be mainly Irish journalists trying to manufacture something out of nothing. Lots of talk about 'biggest fee for a Irish player ever'

I just don't see any of those clubs meeting the valuation we have.

[ksrclaret]

No wonder we’re having to take a loss on Weghorst. He’s a bang average to poor 29 year old with an oversized ego and an attitude problem. I’ll just be happy when the bad egg has been confirmed to have left the building.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Not sure I buy these Collins links. Judging by what I see on Twitter, it seems to be mainly Irish journalists trying to manufacture something out of nothing. Lots of talk about 'biggest fee for a Irish player ever'

I just don't see any of those clubs meeting the valuation we have.

I suspect Collins and his agent will be pushing for a move. If anything for the finances that surround it.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Not sure I buy these Collins links. Judging by what I see on Twitter, it seems to be mainly Irish journalists trying to manufacture something out of nothing. Lots of talk about 'biggest fee for a Irish player ever'

I just don't see any of those clubs meeting the valuation we have.

The article is nonsense. Same lazy journalist who only seems to know 1 player and has spent the last few weeks talking about him.

He has some inside info though, he is in line for a mega money move, then says IF Burnley sell, then he know hows much we want and we won't get it, he knows which clubs want him and also the amount of the opening bid.

Journalism was once a skilled profession now it seems anyone who puts down a paragraph or 2 makes a claim to be one.

Collins may well move on, but if you name all the clubs who would realistically be interested and set yourself a target of being within 20m of his fee I think anyone could claim to be correct once he moves on

[NewClaret]

I suspect Collins and his agent will be pushing for a move. If anything for the finances that surround it.

Maybe, but we hold the cards and can decline offers if we want (as we have with Tarks in the past, albeit in different circumstances).

Most promising parts about that article was no mention of a release clause and the second paragraph starting “if Burnley decide to sell”. Hopefully we don’t.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Maybe, but we hold the cards and can decline offers if we want (as we have with Tarks in the past, albeit in different circumstances).

Most promising parts about that article was no mention of a release clause and the second paragraph starting “if Burnley decide to sell”. Hopefully we don’t.

100%. If promotion is the target we need to reject everything in my opinion.

I can see this being his agent trying to drum up some interest

[Colburn_Claret]

Reading different things about Roberts moving on.

Sounds to me he wants out and his agent is touting him about, from what I have seen of him he isn't a Premium league player.

I hope not, but wouldn't be surprised if it's true.
Playing in a system that didn't suit him, and getting slagged off by a large portion of the fans as not being good enough.
In his shoes I'd probably do the same.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

I suspect Collins and his agent will be pushing for a move. If anything for the finances that surround it.

You're probably right, but the most he can hope for would be a Wolves or a Leicester.

Can't seem them paying what we want.

It's the same reason I don't see McNeil going. Nobody will meet the valuation.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You're probably right, but the most he can hope for would be a Wolves or a Leicester.

Can't seem them paying what we want.

It's the same reason I don't see McNeil going. Nobody will meet the valuation.

I think it depends what our valuation is?

If it’s about 25m I can certainly see some clubs paying that. That would represent good business for us also. 750k profit per game over a 12 month period.

I think the figures of 40 (similar to Pope) are just a bit pie in the sky at this moment.

[RVclaret]

I think it depends what our valuation is?

If it’s about 25m I can certainly see some clubs paying that. That would represent good business for us also. 750k profit per game over a 12 month period.

I think the figures of 40 (similar to Pope) are just a bit pie in the sky at this moment.

Collins different to Pope. Not just with age and paying for potential, but also the fact several clubs are interested. Ben White went for £50m after one good season in the PL, for example. I’d say Collins has a similar ceiling to him.

So in terms of our ‘valuation’ I believe we have the right to demand north of 30m at this particular point.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

I think it depends what our valuation is?

If it’s about 25m I can certainly see some clubs paying that. That would represent good business for us also. 750k profit per game over a 12 month period.

I think the figures of 40 (similar to Pope) are just a bit pie in the sky at this moment.

I think we'd be mad to take 25m with him having such a long contract.

If he's the best centre back in the league next season his value could be double that?

Remember Ben White?

I would expect the valuation to be closer to the 40m mark than 25m personally.

[NewClaret]

100%. If promotion is the target we need to reject everything in my opinion.

I can see this being his agent trying to drum up some interest

I think of all Vinny’s talk about not needing to immediately bounce back and a building process, I’m still hoping that Alan is sensible enough to know that this is a pivotal season and our chances of a return get harder each year thereafter as our budget reduces comparative to three other relegated teams.

We’ve also been quite lucky to be relegated with Norwich and Watford - teams we can easily compete with and beat on our day. Next season you could easily see us up against City clubs like Forest/Leeds & well-funded Bournemouth. This year is a big chance.

With that in mind, it’ll need us to hang on to some prized assets like Collins and others, so I’m hoping Alan sees that and has the balls to stave off bids.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

I think of all Vinny’s talk about not needing to immediately bounce back and a building process, I’m still hoping that Alan is sensible enough to know that this is a pivotal season and our chances of a return get harder each year thereafter as our budget reduces comparative to three other relegated teams.

We’ve also been quite lucky to be relegated with Norwich and Watford - teams we can easily compete with and beat on our day. Next season you could easily see us up against City clubs like Forest/Leeds & well-funded Bournemouth. This year is a big chance.

With that in mind, it’ll need us to hang on to some prized assets like Collins and others, so I’m hoping Alan sees that and has the balls to stave off bids.

Mind games for the players, nothing more. Pace cannot afford to be patient. VK is just trying to take the pressure off as much as possible.

[claptrappers_union]

Collins is contacted to Burnley for another 3 years (I think) so we don’t need to sell him, unless the bid is astronomical.

[ClaretMov]

If there is no release clause on Collins then set the fee at two hundred million if no takers then he stays, a silly amount I know but a clear sign he's NOT FOR SALE this season

[Woonderbah]

I personally think the whole 'Van Gaal World Cup' thing is total ********. Otherwise he could take a short 6 month move somewhere and come back when the WC is over. He clearly just doesn't want to play in the Championship, or take a hit on his wages.

There's no way that if Weghorst stayed with us and put up big number he would has any less chance of going to the World Cup than if he played in the Turkish top flight. He's still being picked now after a dreadful 6 months in Premier League. That says they are very low on options in that department.

Could you imagine Southgate picking an England striker who'd scored 2 goals in 6 months?

I'd agree.. think his reasons are less about securing a World Cup slot and more the inevitable wage drop linked to relegation and his own over inflated ego.
I can't think of any PL players who've moved to Turkey and gone on to bigger clubs..

[ClaretMov]

The other option is keep him, which would you prefer ?

I prefer we don't get bullied into selling a player on the cheap with massive losses after just six months

[warksclaret]

I am wondering with the imminent deal to loan out Weghorse, and seeing what Nick Pope was sold for, that we have not lost that ability to get top dollar from our players. You will recall £8m for Vokes and £18m-ish for Gray

I hope we dont go for the first offers on Roberts, Collins, Cornet, Dwight. This year they are worth more for us

[Firthy]

Going to Sunderland

The grass is always greener - until it's not

[ŽižkovClaret]

£8m for Vokes and £18m-ish for Gray

I loved Vokes here, but 8m considering how he declined after that move has to go down alongside the 1m for Wayne Thomas and 50k for Ian Moore

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

I am wondering with the imminent deal to loan out Weghorse, and seeing what Nick Pope was sold for, that we have not lost that ability to get top dollar from our players. You will recall £8m for Vokes and £18m-ish for Gray

I hope we dont go for the first offers on Roberts, Collins, Cornet, Dwight. This year they are worth more for us

There's a big difference in negotiating position when you don't need to sell, compared to if you're trying to raise funds for a squad rebuild.

We'll clearly have to make compromises in order to get a squad together for VK this season.

I think Nick Pope was obviously identified as someone that didn't suit the system VK wants to play and an area where we could generate some funds.

It's very deliberate, rather than us being skint and a club nicking our players.

I still expect us to hold out for top dollar on players we want to keep.

[clive40golf]

Winston white used to train on a roundabout

O’Neil sometimes reminds me of WW, when he makes those little 360* turns all on his left foot.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Collins different to Pope. Not just with age and paying for potential, but also the fact several clubs are interested. Ben White went for £50m after one good season in the PL, for example. I’d say Collins has a similar ceiling to him.

So in terms of our ‘valuation’ I believe we have the right to demand north of 30m at this particular point.

I agree with all of that except Our situation is different to White?

The record for a Championship CB moving to the prem is 22m I believe. I think we could get more given his age but not astronomically more.

Ben white had a championship title under his belt and successful full premier league season under his belt. Plus he was being taken from another prem team. It’s a different market unfortunately.

Similar to Pope I don’t think we will get top dollar.

I hope we turn anything down tbh. He’s critical for our promotion hopes

[Quickenthetempo]

There's a big difference in negotiating position when you don't need to sell, compared to if you're trying to raise funds for a squad rebuild.

We'll clearly have to make compromises in order to get a squad together for VK this season.

I think Nick Pope was obviously identified as someone that didn't suit the system VK wants to play and an area where we could generate some funds.

It's very deliberate, rather than us being skint and a club nicking our players.

I still expect us to hold out for top dollar on players we want to keep.

In one of Kompany's interviews he says he would work with Nick Pope if we stayed up but impossible to keep him if relegated.

[kaptin1]

Besiktas have a 7.5m euro option to buy Weghorst

Quite a substantial loss of money on Weghorst

Not ideal, but given his age he was never going to have huge resale value. That amount is roughly half what we paid for him and he will be about half way through his contract and 30+ y/o if/when the option is triggered. Hopefully Besiktas are covering all his wages in the meantime. The bigger loss is that he didn’t really perform as expected in the second half of last season which may have been the difference between is staying up and going down.

[kenyon6923]

I just hope we are not just "buying anybody" just to get bodies in the building - any club must see we have been relegated and we have lost Pope, Mee, Tarks, Lennon, Weg, Bards, Pieters, Stephens - plus Westy and Vid out for long periods and who knows other departures in Collins/McNeill/Roberts/Cornet so we are desperately short of bodies.
In the press conference ok a clique but looking at 100's of players per day ? is there a preferred shortlist ? or a championship manager approach of multiple bids and see what we can get over the line ? Twine signing gives me hope we are doing some targeting but I have not known us to be linked to so many players in a transfer window.

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

In one of Kompany's interviews he says he would work with Nick Pope if we stayed up but impossible to keep him if relegated.

Do you really think he'd come out in an interview and say 'He's not capable of playing out from the back'?

But we know he isn't

And Gareth Southgate knows he isn't

There's no way that Nick Pope leaves Burnley with 1 year and a 1 year option on his contract for 10 million if VK fancied him as number one.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Selling players in January remains an option if we aren’t top two with a great chance (if finances dictate and we can’t wait out the season). Have a go, if we are in pole position by Jan the risk may feel worth taking, if not, sell the likes of Collins then, teams pay silly money in Jan at times.

[alwaysaclaret]

From having loads of links flying round, things just appear to have gone a little quiet since the confirmation of Scott twine, does anyone else get the feeling that the next one in is very much dependent upon the next one out. The twine signing seemed to follow quite quickly on the back of Pope to Newcastle just saying.

[RVclaret]

From having loads of links flying round, things just appear to have gone a little quiet since the confirmation of Scott twine, does anyone else get the feeling that the next one in is very much dependent upon the next one out. The twine signing seemed to follow quite quickly on the back of Pope to Newcastle just saying.

How has it gone quiet? Nixon said we are closing on 3 signings and local press said we are winning the race for Wiles from Rotherham?

[Hedontplayforyou]

I reckon at least one is announced today