Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[jojomk1]

If we are loaning Man City players, I would rather it be a technical midfielder.

Cole Palmer could fit the bill in the Championship

[clarethomer]

Not really mate. Remember when he said we were trying to sign Benteke, Origi and Guirassy four months ago???

All blatantly untrue.

He gets a few right but only after linking us with loads that don’t come off at all (or appear to have any truth in them).

Nixon never said we were signing Benteke and Origi

What he said was that Burnley want Benteke and Origi. It’s a small but important difference.

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[RVclaret]

Cole Palmer could fit the bill in the Championship

He’d be a cheat code in this league. Problem is Pep does use him in the first team, scored in the Champs league last season. However, with them signing Haaland and Alverez, you never know!

[Newcastleclaret93]

He’d be a cheat code in this league. Problem is Pep does use him in the first team, scored in the Champs league last season. However, with them signing Haaland and Alverez, you never know!

He would dramatically improve our chances of promotion. Reminds me of when Derby somehow got Mount on loan

[KRBFC]

Nixon never said we were signing Benteke and Origi

What he said was that Burnley want Benteke and Origi. It’s a small but important difference.

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He's been explained this several times, still doesn't understand the difference and continues to slag off Nixon for some bizarre reason.

[jedi_master]

Nixon was first to report interest in Cornet.

[RVclaret]

Nixon was first to report interest in Cornet.

And Collins

[clarethomer]

He's been explained this several times, still doesn't understand the difference and continues to slag off Nixon for some bizarre reason.

Strange. It don’t believe Nixon is some kind of super journo but he gets called out a lot for doing what most journos do.

I can imagine there are loads of conversations going on between agents/clubs all the time and there will be loads of players clubs are enquiring about and trying to suss out who may be available at what cost.

When we lost Wood we weren’t expecting it- so not beyond the realms of possible that we were asking around for strikers we may be available for sale.

It therefore could be quite factual that we enquired about these players (translated to we want these players) but never had a chance of getting them.

If he was to say that Burnley will sign these players then that’s a different story.

He never said this about these players.

[KRBFC]

Strange. It don’t believe Nixon is some kind of super journo but he gets called out a lot for doing what most journos do.

I can imagine there are loads of conversations going on between agents/clubs all the time and there will be loads of players clubs are enquiring about and trying to suss out who may be available at what cost.

When we lost Wood we weren’t expecting it- so not beyond the realms of possible that we were asking around for strikers we may be available for sale.

It therefore could be quite factual that we enquired about these players (translated to we want these players) but never had a chance of getting them.

If he was to say that Burnley will sign these players then that’s a different story.

He never said this about these players.

As you say, strange indeed. It was also reported Benteke turned us down, which would make Nixon factually correct about us wanting him.

[bobinho]

The continual knocking of Nixon may well be to do with the company he keeps?

Anyway, wasn’t the managerial announcement being made yesterday?

Anyone else a little worried with the lack of progress on the manager front? I’d like whoever it’s going to be in place NOW, so he can start with retentions and replacements. Hit the ground running so to speak…

[TheOriginalLongsider]

Securing his back room staff before committing?

[tiger76]

At the moment Kevin Long is our starting CB in the championship. He might see this as his chance.

Hmm! don't now if that's good or not, and if he can't command a starting place now then he never will.

Doubt he'll still be our starting CB come our 1st game, probably Collins and Mee right now, though where Harewood-Bellis fits in if he arrives we'll have to wait and see, and given we've presently got Collins, Long, Mee? and Thomas on our books, then surely one of those will be moving on, I can't see us needing 5 centre halves next season, even if we do switch to 3 at the back in certain games.

[tiger76]

Tom Lawrence being mooted for Celtic. Leeds and Rangers, he'd be a great free signing for us in the Champ, welsh international to boot, so maybe our Welsh contingent could put in a good word for us while on international duty.

[FeedTheArf]

Tom Lawrence being mooted for Celtic. Leeds and Rangers, he'd be a great free signing for us in the Champ, welsh international to boot, so maybe our Welsh contingent could put in a good word for us while on international duty.

I know a lot of time has passed, but my abiding memory of Lawrence is him being absolute gash for Rovers.

That said, it probably puts him up in my estimation!

[Newcastleclaret93]

Hmm! don't now if that's good or not, and if he can't command a starting place now then he never will.

Doubt he'll still be our starting CB come our 1st game, probably Collins and Mee right now, though where Harewood-Bellis fits in if he arrives we'll have to wait and see, and given we've presently got Collins, Long, Mee? and Thomas on our books, then surely one of those will be moving on, I can't see us needing 5 centre halves next season, even if we do switch to 3 at the back in certain games.

Mee currently isn’t on the books for next season.

As of right now it’s Collins, Long and Thomas.

[MACCA]

The continual knocking of Nixon may well be to do with the company he keeps?

Anyway, wasn’t the managerial announcement being made yesterday?

Anyone else a little worried with the lack of progress on the manager front? I’d like whoever it’s going to be in place NOW, so he can start with retentions and replacements. Hit the ground running so to speak…

Not worried at all.

I heard its all done and dusted so that'll do for me

[NewClaret]

Nixon never said we were signing Benteke and Origi

What he said was that Burnley want Benteke and Origi. It’s a small but important difference.

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That’s why I said“trying to sign”.

Maybe a bit harsh with my statement they were blatantly untrue, but Benteke’s £120k pw salary made that feel highly improbable, Origi given Liverpool we’re fighting on all fronts and Klopp thinks we’re a wrestling team and Guirassy didn’t feel like a Dyche signing at all. Tenuous links at best, I’d say, and don’t think any moved.

I think in January he linked us to Dan Neil & Ramsey too, both of which didn’t come off (although I do think he was right on the latter). Think he also linked Tarks to Newcastle. Previous windows it was Albrighton & Barkley. About a month ago Carvahal as manager.

Do agree he gets a few right so must have contacts. I’d say for EFL teams he’s the best there is. But there are so many links that don’t materialise I find it hard take much seriously until it’s verified by other sources. In recent windows it seems to have been local foreign journo’s that e had the inside track on our signings.

[Jakubs Tash]

Why would we sign a CB on loan to sit of the bench all season? If comes to us he will be playing so I am pretty sure it’s safe to assume one of Mee or Collins won’t be here.

….to be part of a squad. To ensure we have enough quality halves to cover for injuries, illness, suspension and loss of form. To give the manager options to play different shapes. Would it be safe to assume he won’t get much game time for Man City’s first team? Asking you because you’re the king of assumptions. If so, why couldn’t we loan with a view to a permanent deal?

[Newcastleclaret93]

….to be part of a squad. To ensure we have enough quality halves to cover for injuries, illness, suspension and loss of form. To give the manager options to play different shapes. Would it be safe to assume he won’t get much game time for Man City’s first team? Asking you because you’re the king of assumptions. If so, why couldn’t we loan with a view to a permanent deal?

Believe what you wanna believe. If you think and England u21 is going to come here and be back up in the championship that’s your prerogative

[KRBFC]

That’s why I said“trying to sign”.

Maybe a bit harsh with my statement they were blatantly untrue, but Benteke’s £120k pw salary made that feel highly improbable, Origi given Liverpool we’re fighting on all fronts and Klopp thinks we’re a wrestling team and Guirassy didn’t feel like a Dyche signing at all. Tenuous links at best, I’d say, and don’t think any moved.

I think in January he linked us to Dan Neil & Ramsey too, both of which didn’t come off (although I do think he was right on the latter). Think he also linked Tarks to Newcastle. Previous windows it was Albrighton & Barkley. About a month ago Carvahal as manager.

Do agree he gets a few right so must have contacts. I’d say for EFL teams he’s the best there is. But there are so many links that don’t materialise I find it hard take much seriously until it’s verified by other sources. In recent windows it seems to have been local foreign journo’s that e had the inside track on our signings.

Somehow you still fail to understand the difference between signed and interested in signing. He reported we were interested in Benteke to replace Wood, that was correct, it was later reported Benteke turned us down. Same thing with Ramsey, Nixon was correct, we were interested in signing him, he turned us down. Albrighton also true, he turned us down.

[clarethomer]

That’s why I said“trying to sign”.

Maybe a bit harsh with my statement they were blatantly untrue, but Benteke’s £120k pw salary made that feel highly improbable, Origi given Liverpool we’re fighting on all fronts and Klopp thinks we’re a wrestling team and Guirassy didn’t feel like a Dyche signing at all. Tenuous links at best, I’d say, and don’t think any moved.

But what makes it wrong in what he reported?

We may have seen those players as good replacements and had them on a list of players we had been making enquiries about. We could have wanted those players if the deal was right.

Nixon doesn’t say we will sign them? You reading his stories has you putting t 2+2 together and getting 5.

You could be right in saying that the deals were never realistic but we said that about Joe Hart with his massive wages etc. so there are examples of where we have attract players historically with wages outside our structure.

Anyway- the point is that you have to take these things at face value and that what he writes he believes to be true at the point he wrote that article.

[NewClaret]

Somehow you still fail to understand the difference between signed and interested in signing. He reported we were interested in Benteke to replace Wood, that was correct, it was later reported Benteke turned us down. Same thing with Ramsey, Nixon was correct, we were interested in signing him, he turned us down. Albrighton also true, he turned us down.

If I recall on Benteke, he reported one day that Burnley were interested, next day Benteke said he was going nowhere, then he reported that we were shunned the day after. The whole “saga” was over in 48-72 hrs. How it was concluded we were interested, I’m not sure, but given his salary was double our highest paid player, highly unlikely to materialise at best. Origi and Guirassy also mentioned in the same article and both then went quiet.

Albrighton was reported as being our main target in the summer, but he signed a three year deal pretty quickly thereafter.

Ramsey I agree we were interested as I think it was confirmed somewhere later, although he went elsewhere too.

My point is that he has a reputation for “linking” us with players we don’t actually sign, hence why I said to Newcastle that it’s likely too soon to read much in to the Harwood Bellis rumours.

I suppose it depends what you look for in your journalists. I’m not saying all his content is fictitious, just that his success rate on how much of it develops to a reality is very low. I don’t think that’s in question. If you like reading the the rumour and more tenuous interest, fair enough, it’s just not for me - I prefer the reading reports with more substance that are actually happening (mainly foreign/local journos recently). Each to their own, but sorry if my views on Nixon have offended you.

[tiger76]

Believe what you wanna believe. If you think and England u21 is going to come here and be back up in the championship that’s your prerogative

For once I'm in agreement with you, why would Pep loan us players if we aren't going to give them game time, and if peeps don't realise we're soon to be under new management, and seemingly VK is much more prepared to give youth a chance than SD was.

[KRBFC]

If I recall on Benteke, he reported one day that Burnley were interested, next day Benteke said he was going nowhere, then he reported that we were shunned the day after. The whole “saga” was over in 48-72 hrs. How it was concluded we were interested, I’m not sure, but given his salary was double our highest paid player, highly unlikely to materialise at best. Origi and Guirassy also mentioned in the same article and both then went quiet.

Albrighton was reported as being our main target in the summer, but he signed a three year deal pretty quickly thereafter.

Ramsey I agree we were interested as I think it was confirmed somewhere later, although he went elsewhere too.

My point is that he has a reputation for “linking” us with players we don’t actually sign, hence why I said to Newcastle that it’s likely too soon to read much in to the Harwood Bellis rumours.

I suppose it depends what you look for in your journalists. I’m not saying all his content is fictitious, just that his success rate on how much of it develops to a reality is very low. I don’t think that’s in question. If you like reading the the rumour and more tenuous interest, fair enough, it’s just not for me - I prefer the reading reports with more substance that are actually happening (mainly foreign/local journos recently). Each to their own, but sorry if my views on Nixon have offended you.

You've clearly shown you don't understand, the other poster tried to explain and you still don't get it. Nothing much else for me to say, if a Journalist says we are interested in signing someone, it doesn't mean they were wrong if we don't end up signing that player unless the journalist claims X player is signing. Scouting departments will have a pretty long list of players we're interested in, of course we don't sign them all.

[NewClaret]

But what makes it wrong in what he reported?

We may have seen those players as good replacements and had them on a list of players we had been making enquiries about. We could have wanted those players if the deal was right.

Nixon doesn’t say we will sign them? You reading his stories has you putting t 2+2 together and getting 5.

You could be right in saying that the deals were never realistic but we said that about Joe Hart with his massive wages etc. so there are examples of where we have attract players historically with wages outside our structure.

Anyway- the point is that you have to take these things at face value and that what he writes he believes to be true at the point he wrote that article.

Just replied to KRBFC, so won’t repeat myself. But to your final point I have never said that I think Nixon lies or makes stuff up (probably because his sources tell him things when it suits their agenda) just that not much he writes becomes reality for whatever reason, which affects how I view his credibility.

Talkbfc posted something he wrote the other day and quoted him as being a “tier 3” source which is pretty much how I see it.

I get that he writes for the Sun & that is a publication more aimed at rumour and gossip. And that it fills a gap in the market. I’ve just never been in to that - ringing teamtalk, etc - so just not my cup of tea. Will agree to disagree.

[ClaretTony]

Makhtar Gueye - don’t know anything about him but just seen a link in foreign tongue (Flemish or Dutch). He plays for Oostende so an easy link.

[Smile]

From Nixon: Vincent Kompany is interested in bringing Man City defender Taylor Harwood-Bellis with him to Burnley. The 20 year-old is also wanted by Brentford and Celtic, but has just bought a new house in Cheshire.

[RVclaret]

Both mentioned on the previous page

[adropofclaret]

Morgan Gibbs White is a very good player, midfielder was on loan from Wolves at Sheff utd.
One to watch

[RVclaret]

Morgan Gibbs White is a very good player, midfielder was on loan from Wolves at Sheff utd.
One to watch

Getting a Prem move. Southampton in for him at £20m.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Hopefully Scott Twine is on his way to the clarets

[Smile]

Hopefully Scott Twine is on his way to the clarets

Off to Forest from the paper talk.

[ClaretTony]

Both mentioned on the previous page

Better twice than none

[Fez]

Any idea why Petr Cech is/was at Gawthorpe?

[Nori1958]

Any idea why Petr Cech is/was at Gawthorpe?

The youth comp that's been on all weekend

[Fez]

The youth comp that's been on all weekend

Cheers for that!

[NewClaret]

Hopefully Scott Twine is on his way to the clarets

Twine would be a brilliant signing. Really hope we’re looking at this. He & Wallace would be fairly cheap ways to strengthen and add goals to midfield.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Mandela Keira 20 year old Belgian defensive midfielder also linked

[Newcastleclaret93]

Looks like Weghorst will be signing for Fenherbace in the next ten days.

His manager has said he’s held talks with them and it will become clear in the next 10 days

[Newcastleclaret93]

Looks like Weghorst will be signing for Fenherbace in the next ten days.

His manager has said he’s held talks with them and it will become clear in the next 10 days

He’s now followed them on Instagram. I suspect this is just a matter of time now

[DCWat]

He’s now followed them on Instagram. I suspect this is just a matter of time now

Can’t say I’m fussed - I’d have liked to have seen how he developed next season but if he moves on, so be it. Plenty I’d rather keep ahead of Weghorst.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Can’t say I’m fussed - I’d have liked to have seen how he developed next season but if he moves on, so be it. Plenty I’d rather keep ahead of Weghorst.

Really poor signing all round. Bad move for him and us.

[LlandennyClaret]

Looks like Weghorst will be signing for Fenherbace in the next ten days.

His manager has said he’s held talks with them and it will become clear in the next 10 days

Link?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Link?

Not sure how to link Twitter stuff. Type in Osman Cengiz or Weghorst it comes up pretty quickly.

[Wokingclaret]

https://twitter.com/osmcengizz/status/1 ... P-We83ik6A

[LlandennyClaret]

Not sure how to link Twitter stuff. Type in Osman Cengiz or Weghorst it comes up pretty quickly.

Ta. Can’t say I’d be too bothered if true.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Ta. Can’t say I’d be too bothered if true.

Me either tbh.
There’s better out there for less money.

[jedi_master]

Better be a buy and not a bloody loan.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Better be a buy and not a bloody loan.

No idea but with it being a Turkish club I would suggest a loan.

[jedi_master]

No idea but with it being a Turkish club I would suggest a loan.

Yes, probably so. It’s the last bastion for ageing foreign strikers that fail in the Premier League having been panic bought in January by soon to be relegated sides.

That would be the final insult in what has proven to be a horrific transfer.