Ric_C wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:32 pm

My guess is we will unveil at least 1 tomorrow

I reckon it’ll be a double announcement for the City boys

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:34 pm

I reckon it’ll be a double announcement for the City boys

My thinking too.

BigChaCha wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:11 pm

You missed the bit about them nearly filling that bigger stadium to capacity with their average over the last 5 years... An average that statistically overshadows us by a very large margin!... Posting tons of emojis don't change that fact, it just looks like a 12-year-old is replying.

Thank you, I'm only 9

BigChaCha wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:11 pm

You missed the bit about them nearly filling that bigger stadium to capacity with their average over the last 5 years... An average that statistically overshadows us by a very large margin!... Posting tons of emojis don't change that fact, it just looks like a 12-year-old is replying.

i totally agree. Not only do the people who use these immature things lack the wit and imagination to respond properly they also have an annoying persistence among adults to act like teenagers.

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:54 pm

i totally agree. Not only do the people who use these immature things lack the wit and imagination to respond properly they also have an annoying persistence among adults to act like teenagers.

Yes they do.

BigChaCha wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:29 pm

Absolutely no chance of signing any players like that and we haven't been linked or have signed any midfield players like that so that proves my point!...

On Norwich. let's look at the facts!...

Firstly the averages -

Season Competition Average
19/20 Premier League 19,911
18/19 Championship 26,014
17/18 Championship 25,773
16/17 Championship 26,354

They average far more than us when we are in the Prem when they are playing in the Champ lol...

They blow us out of the water on averages, population size and if you did a survey across the country, 90% would say they are a bigger club than us if asked when not in this delusional echo chamber.

Fancy borrowing my username?

Have a look at, say, average league position over the last ten years for a stat.

Braindead wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:46 pm

Fancy borrowing my username?

Have a look at, say, average league position over the last ten years for a stat.

Yawn

As far as I can see the only thing Norwich beat us on is Population. History, Titles won, Seasons in the Top Division etc. all in our favour.

Not sure if mentioned but Arsenal’s Ballard confirmed to Sunderland.

https://twitter.com/sunderlandafc/statu ... nPFRD7Jpig

Norwich are mustard

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:04 pm

Not sure if mentioned but Arsenal’s Ballard confirmed to Sunderland.

https://twitter.com/sunderlandafc/statu ... nPFRD7Jpig

Very surprised it wasn’t a loan or that they have agreed more favourable terms than us .

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:56 pm

As far as I can see the only thing Norwich beat us on is Population. History, Titles won, Seasons in the Top Division etc. all in our favour.

All good points for proving we’re a BETTER club but this season they’ll be getting crowds 50%(?) more than us even though we’re in the same division, so hard to argue we’re the BIGGER club IMO.

Winstonswhite wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:10 pm

All good points for proving we’re a BETTER club but this season they’ll be getting crowds 50%(?) more than us even though we’re in the same division, so hard to argue we’re the BIGGER club IMO.

As I say, bigger population than us, and no other club within miles of them in any direction

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:15 pm

As I say, bigger population than us, and no other club within miles of them in any direction

We’re going round in circles.

If you want to believe that we’re a bigger club than Norwich fair dos. I like to think we are the most successful small club this countries ever seen.

Winstonswhite wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:20 pm

We’re going round in circles.

If you want to believe that we’re a bigger club than Norwich fair dos. I like to think we are the most successful small club this countries ever seen.

I agree with your last sentence

northeastclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:09 pm

Very surprised it wasn’t a loan or that they have agreed more favourable terms than us .

Could be any number of reasons, from he was a back-up negotiation to Sunderland blowing our offer out of the water, and everything between. We don’t KNOW we were even in for him, really it was just a strong rumour.

Only people aged 10 and under give a f**k about crowd size

If a big club like Sunderland or Norwich come knocking then we don’t stand much chance landing players.

Feckinhell - can we drop this crap discussion about Norwich bloody City?

Is it that hard to keep within the guidelines of the thread title? We’re having the busiest summer for years and this is the ******** that we end up with!

DCWat wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:31 pm

Feckinhell - can we drop this crap discussion about Norwich bloody City?

Is it that hard to keep within the guidelines of the thread title? We’re having the busiest summer for years and this is the ******** that we end up with!

Transfer talk only please DC, no bickering.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:32 pm

Transfer talk only please DC, no bickering.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:29 pm

If a big club like Sunderland or Norwich come knocking then we don’t stand much chance landing players.

You should get a few with that one

DCWat wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:31 pm

Feckinhell - can we drop this crap discussion about Norwich bloody City?

Is it that hard to keep within the guidelines of the thread title? We’re having the busiest summer for years and this is the ******** that we end up with!

We needed something to argue about after Dale Stephens

#AnnounceMuleka

Knobheads

FFS grow up you imbeciles.

louieollie wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:12 pm

Jesus Christ this really is like a play ground for spoilt kids !!! ..........let's just read and discuss rumours in a civilised way rather than turning it into a p#####g contest FFS!

Don't know how Tony and the moderators cope with the braindead on here.

So with the news of the next two pretty much understood now, how do people see our team starting at Huddersfield as things stand (with the assumption of Egan-Riley, Harwood-Bellis, Muleka and Bastien joining/Weghorst and Cornet being sold)? I will go for:

—————————————Hennessey
Roberts———Collins—————-Harwood-Bellis————Taylor
———————Brownhill——Cork——Bastien
———-McNeil——————-Muleka—————Twine

Subs: BPF, Lowton, Long, McNally, Egan-Riley, Gudmundsson, Barnes, Rodriguez, Richardson

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:33 pm

So with the news of the next two pretty much understood now, how do people see our team starting at Huddersfield as things stand (with the assumption of Egan-Riley, Harwood-Bellis, Muleka and Bastien joining/Weghorst and Cornet being sold)? I will go for:

—————————————Hennessey
Roberts———Collins—————-Harwood-Bellis————Taylor
———————Brownhill——Cork——Bastien
———-McNeil——————-Muleka—————Twine

Subs: BPF, Lowton, Long, McNally, Egan-Riley, Gudmundsson, Barnes, Rodriguez, Richardson

——————Hennessey
Roberts Collins Harwood Bellis Taylor
—————Cork Brownhill
——-McNeil———————Twine
——————-Muleka Jay

That’s making some big assumptions that no one is sold, which I consider unlikely.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:38 pm

——————Hennessey
Roberts Collins Harwood Bellis Taylor
—————Cork Brownhill
——-McNeil———————Twine
——————-Muleka Jay

That’s making some big assumptions that no one is sold, which I consider unlikely.

Possibly is, we can but guess as we stand (bar the obvious sales of Wout and Max).

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:33 pm

So with the news of the next two pretty much understood now, how do people see our team starting at Huddersfield as things stand (with the assumption of Egan-Riley, Harwood-Bellis, Muleka and Bastien joining/Weghorst and Cornet being sold)? I will go for:

—————————————Hennessey
Roberts———Collins—————-Harwood-Bellis————Taylor
———————Brownhill——Cork——Bastien
———-McNeil——————-Muleka—————Twine

Subs: BPF, Lowton, Long, McNally, Egan-Riley, Gudmundsson, Barnes, Rodriguez, Richardson

Kompany prefers 4-4-2 doesn't he, however assuming he does line up 4-4-3 that's a pretty radical overhaul compared to the side which started against Newcastle, 6 changes I make it, and there might well be more comings and goings over the next month.

What encourages me is our defence is relatively stable, Hennessey for Pope, and THB for Mee are the only changes.

And we will finally have more dynamism and pace in midfield and attack, which we've badly missed for far too long.

You'll have to omit Lowton from the bench though, as he's serving his ban following his red at Villa, but that apart it actually looks pretty decent for a Championship squad.

According to latest news on Le Soir, the main French language Belgian "quality' paper, Muleka and Bastien are done deals (dependent on medicals, work permits etc.).

That paper is saying €2.5m for both but I can't read the whole article due to a paywall.

Walfoot, a fairly reliable site, quotes €4m for Muleka alone. But both he and Bastien are reportedly Burnley-bound.

Time, of course, will tell but nobody can accuse VK and the Board of not pulling out all the stops to get players in.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:42 pm

Kompany prefers 4-4-2 doesn't he, however assuming he does line up 4-4-3 that's a pretty radical overhaul compared to the side which started against Newcastle, 6 changes I make it, and there might well be more comings and goings over the next month.

What encourages me is our defence is relatively stable, Hennessey for Pope, and THB for Mee are the only changes.

And we will finally have more dynamism and pace in midfield and attack, which we've badly missed for far too long.

You'll have to omit Lowton from the bench though, as he's serving his ban following his red at Villa, but that apart it actually looks pretty decent for a Championship squad.

Hopefully turns into a fantastic coach and tactician, but can he do 4-4-3?

Starting to look halfway decent… but difficult to know where a team like that would finish… Probably top third.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:42 pm

Kompany prefers 4-4-2 doesn't he, however assuming he does line up 4-4-3 that's a pretty radical overhaul compared to the side which started against Newcastle, 6 changes I make it, and there might well be more comings and goings over the next month.

What encourages me is our defence is relatively stable, Hennessey for Pope, and THB for Mee are the only changes.

And we will finally have more dynamism and pace in midfield and attack, which we've badly missed for far too long.

You'll have to omit Lowton from the bench though, as he's serving his ban following his red at Villa, but that apart it actually looks pretty decent for a Championship squad.

I forgot about Lowton’s red (which is weird considering how incandescent with rage I was at the time - my God that feels so long ago now).

Yes I’ve read about Kompany being a 4-4-2 man, it’ll be interesting to see if that continues here. I feel our personnel suit the 4-3-3 (as things stand), but we’ll see I suppose!

Kompany likes 4222 and it changes to 352 during the game

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:33 pm

So with the news of the next two pretty much understood now, how do people see our team starting at Huddersfield as things stand (with the assumption of Egan-Riley, Harwood-Bellis, Muleka and Bastien joining/Weghorst and Cornet being sold)? I will go for:

—————————————Hennessey
Roberts———Collins—————-Harwood-Bellis————Taylor
———————Brownhill——Cork——Bastien
———-McNeil——————-Muleka—————Twine

Subs: BPF, Lowton, Long, McNally, Egan-Riley, Gudmundsson, Barnes, Rodriguez, Richardson

I’d be amazed if Collins is still here.

I think Cornet, Roberts, Brownhill, McNeil are still all very real departures. They may not be first choice signings, but I think as the window progresses, and clubs get desperate, we’ll lose the majority of them.

Still expecting a new keeper.

And all the talk when VK first came was the importance of Cullen to his system, so if and when we get further money from departures, perhaps we’ll see him too.

Lots of changes to come yet, I feel.

It Is What It Is wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:15 am

I really don’t know why BFC are consistently delaying announcements.
If deals are done, medicals passed and contracts signed, why keep us fans just having to guess and speculate?

Because they can…

I cannot foresee the club letting all the players mentioned leave. I am of the opinion a good number will stay outside of Cornet and the Dutch player

VK showing us how it’s done. Not a cat in hells chance under the old regime do we target exiting young players and actually bring them in quickly and efficiently. Just confirms what we all thought about Dyches transfer prowess.

Well done Vincent and Alan keep up the good work.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:08 pm

VK showing us how it’s done. Not a cat in hells chance under the old regime do we target exiting young players and actually bring them in quickly and efficiently. Just confirms what we all thought about Dyches transfer prowess.

Well done Vincent and Alan keep up the good work.

I do find this a weird take? Dyche did exceptionally well in the transfer market as a whole over his tenure.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:08 pm

VK showing us how it’s done. Not a cat in hells chance under the old regime do we target exiting young players and actually bring them in quickly and efficiently. Just confirms what we all thought about Dyches transfer prowess.

Well done Vincent and Alan keep up the good work.

Lets judge next year to early to be getting carried away

Cornet is staying and Lowton is going to WBA

Muleka is low risk at that price and did well last season, I’d argue the TSL is stronger than the championship, certainly more intimidating, there’s some good sides in that league.

I feel like the deal for Besiktas to sign WW involved them backing off Muleka

Bastien is an unknown, final year of contract so a knockdown price. Transfermarkt values him at 2m, could be a steal but very low risk at 800k and probs easy to shift to Belgium or France if it doesn’t work out. If he does well and plays a key role in promotion he’s worth 8-10m at his age.

Both will bring bags of energy which we have sorely missed.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:08 pm

VK showing us how it’s done. Not a cat in hells chance under the old regime do we target exiting young players and actually bring them in quickly and efficiently. Just confirms what we all thought about Dyches transfer prowess.

Well done Vincent and Alan keep up the good work.

Promising that we're now targeting emerging talent, but let's judge our recruitment on results before getting carried away just yet.

Jel wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:18 pm

Cornet is staying and Lowton is going to WBA

Hope you’re right about Cornet.

Would be gutted to see Lowts go. Not sure I can handle losing Bardo and Lowts in one summer. If true, WBA recruiting very sensibly and will be a force with the experience they are bringing in.

JR1882 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:19 pm

Muleka is low risk at that price and did well last season, I’d argue the TSL is stronger than the championship, certainly more intimidating, there’s some good sides in that league.

I feel like the deal for Besiktas to sign WW involved them backing off Muleka

Bastien is an unknown, final year of contract so a knockdown price. Transfermarkt values him at 2m, could be a steal but very low risk at 800k and probs easy to shift to Belgium or France if it doesn’t work out. If he does well and plays a key role in promotion he’s worth 8-10m at his age.

Both will bring bags of energy which we have sorely missed.

West Ham were apparently willing to offer £11m for Bastien 2 years ago but Liege valued him at £18m

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:08 pm

VK showing us how it’s done. Not a cat in hells chance under the old regime do we target exiting young players and actually bring them in quickly and efficiently. Just confirms what we all thought about Dyches transfer prowess.

Well done Vincent and Alan keep up the good work.

All thought? It’s one thing getting established premier league players, or top championship players. Last time we went down we signed Andre Gray….. this time we’re hoovering up a division below. I continue to be more worried than excited.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:08 pm

VK showing us how it’s done. Not a cat in hells chance under the old regime do we target exiting young players and actually bring them in quickly and efficiently. Just confirms what we all thought about Dyches transfer prowess.

Well done Vincent and Alan keep up the good work.

Your post is so totally lacking in context. Of course it’s more difficult to bring in young players quickly and efficiently when in the Premier League because;
a.) young players who are good enough to play in the Premier League are few and far between, and;
b.) young players who are good enough to play in the Premier League will likely have better offers from better Premier League sides

Buying young players for relatively small sums of money may get us a competitive Championship team, but all of these signings are a punt. Getting the deals done quickly is an absolute necessity due to the number of players who have walked/been released. This may mean we’re being less careful and precise in our recruitment which again is a gamble.

Exciting, yes. But signing a bunch of young players that we know very little about is hardly a stick to beat the previous regime with.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:08 pm

VK showing us how it’s done. Not a cat in hells chance under the old regime do we target exiting young players and actually bring them in quickly and efficiently. Just confirms what we all thought about Dyches transfer prowess.

Well done Vincent and Alan keep up the good work.

Exciting you g players wasn’t Dyche’s shtick!

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:14 pm

I do find this a weird take? Dyche did exceptionally well in the transfer market as a whole over his tenure.

People seem to forget that we did really well in the first few years after returning to PL. Players like Defour, Hendrick, Brady, Taylor, Wood, Gibson and Vydra were the right fit regarding age/talent while experienced players like Bardsley Pieters and even Lennon did really well for us. Problem came when Garlick decided he's not bothered anymore.