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Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:21 pm**

ynot wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:18 pm
We'll be the "tippy tappy" team everyone hates to watch in the championship

Oooh, I'd love it.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:23 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:19 pm
If the latest midfielder links are on the money, it may even push Cork into a bit part role.

That leaves us with:

Taylor
Collins (rumoured to be off)
Lowton (rumoured to be off)
Roberts (rumoured to be off)
Cork (signed on but will he start with all the midfielders linked)
Westwood (injured)
Brownhill (rumoured to be off)
McNeil (rumoured to be off)
Cornet (rumoured to be off)
Gudmundsson (rarely fit for long enough to get a run)
Rodriguez (given two more years)
Barnes (activated at his choosing)
Vydra (injured)

Tarkowski, Mee and Pope already gone! I expected some turnover but it’s looking like the baby, it’s rubber duck and the Johnson’s shampoo are going out with the bath water.

The signings sound half decent on paper but hell, it’ll take some moulding to make a team!

You could have at least given us a shred of positivity with Taylor.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:25 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:13 pm
Ahh so you massively wrong about them… good to know

Being wrong is part of life…. There’s no embarrassment to it. Obviously you want to be right on more decisions that you make than wrong, but that’s the way life goes. And this is football
Message board, so differing well backed up discussion points are surely welcomed?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:27 pm**

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:08 pm
Yep…. I thought Palace last year were over priced for relegation, but that level of squad overhaul delivering success is the exception rather than the rule.

The way things are going our overhaul is going to end up even more severe than Palace. Certainly looks like we’re going to be starting with new (and very young) players at the back. Remains to be seen how much of the midfield & strike force changes.

You certainly couldn’t say with much confidence that many of the team from last season will definitely be here come 1 September.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:27 pm**

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:00 pm
That's just not true is it? Revisit the high performance podcast, I am pretty sure he talks about how all encompassing football is, and how even when he was at home he was watching games. I can't have the revision of history, that Sean Dyche didn't have an interest in football - it is utter nonsense.

Yes, it is true. I've seen various quotes from him over the years saying when he goes home he doesn't watch football and doesn't talk about football. Her is one quote from here: https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... r-campbell
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Now we are in Sean Dyche’s home near Northampton, and the first thing thought you have is that if this was David Frost’s old show, Through the Keyhole, you would never guess that a former footballer and current manager lived here. “You won’t find any memorabilia in here,” he says, as he goes about making us a coffee. “No pictures, no old shirts, none of that. I’m not one of those football people who thinks and talks nothing but football. When I’m here, it’s not just my home, it’s the family home.
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Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:29 pm**

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:27 pm
The way things are going our overhaul is going to end up even more severe than Palace. Certainly looks like we’re going to be starting with new (and very young) players at the back. Remains to be seen how much of the midfield & strike force changes.

You certainly couldn’t say with much confidence that many of the team from last season will definitely be here come 1 September.

Palace back 4 that started the season was completely new. We could yet still have Roberts, Collins and Taylor.

Simple fact is we don’t know who will and won’t be here yet. I’m sure Pace and Kompany realise they can’t just let everyone go.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:31 pm**

Shane Long left Southampton today. You know we would have…

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:32 pm**

It is indeed looking like a rather big overhaul.

Thing is, we’ve had a triple whammy of relegation, new manager and a large number of players naturally coming to the end of their contracts.

I’m not really surprised, tbh.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:35 pm**

There’s gonna be a bunch of young lads introducing themselves to each other on the pitch before kick off at Huddersfield like at Sunday League.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:35 pm**

TsarBomba wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:32 pm
It is indeed looking like a rather big overhaul.

Thing is, we’ve had a triple whammy of relegation, new manager and a large number of players naturally coming to the end of their contracts.

I’m not really surprised, tbh.

Quadruple if you include the need to raise funds.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:36 pm**

Ignoring rumours what we have

GK

BPF
Hennessey

Defenders

Taylor
Collins
Lowton
Roberts
Thomas
Long
THB
McNally
CJER

Midfield

Cork
Westwood
Brownhill
McNeil
Cornet
Gudmundsson

Attack

Rodriguez
Barnes
Twine
Richardson?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:37 pm**

I certainly think it looks like we’re pretty relaxed about the prospect of next season being more about developing the squad than promotion.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:39 pm**

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:37 pm
I certainly think it looks like we’re pretty relaxed about the prospect of next season being more about developing the squad than promotion.

I’m hoping that we bring in some quality, proven experience. I think we are going to need it.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:40 pm**

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:37 pm
I certainly think it looks like we’re pretty relaxed about the prospect of next season being more about developing the squad than promotion.

I would prefer that to be the case. For the fans, the manager and the players. If it happens, it happens.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:46 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:39 pm
I’m hoping that we bring in some quality, proven experience. I think we are going to need it.

Hopefully a few surprise signings who might fancy playing for Kompany before the window shuts.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:48 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:39 pm
I’m hoping that we bring in some quality, proven experience. I think we are going to need it.

New players being linked every day, but not many of that ilk so far.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:50 pm**

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:46 pm
Hopefully a few surprise signings who might fancy playing for Kompany before the window shuts.

2 months to go, but I reckon we're aiming for the squad to be sorted before Huddersfield.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:51 pm**

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:37 pm
I certainly think it looks like we’re pretty relaxed about the prospect of next season being more about developing the squad than promotion.

I don’t know that clubs can ever set up for 1 season of development can they? Players who dom progress likely leave, so the season after becomes about development too. Maybe we’re going to become a development club, and being st this level suits the financial model better?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:51 pm**

We’re getting the cheap easy deals over the line but I expect that we will be looking to bring in more proven quality as the transfer window progresses. This may be reliant on some outgoings of course.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:53 pm**

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:51 pm
I don’t know that clubs can ever set up for 1 season of development can they? Players who dom progress likely leave, so the season after becomes about development too. Maybe we’re going to become a development club, and being st this level suits the financial model better?

I could see that being the case.

Sell Collins and McNeil this summer and pay the debt off. Then just tick along buying cheap and selling high as a mid to low end championship team.

Would work quite well for ALK as well. They could get a hefty dividends payment every year and then sell for 20-30m in a few years making profit on there original investment.

However if they want to get a big payout prem is where they want to be.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:54 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:51 pm
We’re getting the cheap easy deals over the line but I expect that we will be looking to bring in more proven quality as the transfer window progresses. This may be reliant on some outgoings of course.

Hope so. Going to need a bit of know-how, whether that’s by closing the exit doors or making one or two signings more akin to the last summer we were relegated.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:58 pm**

Hennessey to Forrest.
Telegraph

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:59 pm**

Is it possible to do well with inexperienced centre halves?

Those that have plenty of youth in their side and have done well have all had experienced players at the back.

We risk having none which doesn't bode well.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:01 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:51 pm
We’re getting the cheap easy deals over the line but I expect that we will be looking to bring in more proven quality as the transfer window progresses. This may be reliant on some outgoings of course.

But there's always the possibility that some players coming in, while 'cheap' - are the best signings we'll make in years.

"Cheap easy deals" sounds like we're bringing in people who happen to have a couple of legs and can run around for a bit.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:04 pm**

Spijed wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:59 pm
Is it possible to do well with inexperienced centre halves?

Those that have plenty of youth in their side and have done well have all had experienced players at the back.

We risk having none which doesn't bode well.

Good job we've got one of the best CB's the world has seen in the modern era to coach them

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:08 pm**

ervi34 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:05 pm
Feels weird that Hennessey who is fighting for a WC starting spot would rather sit on the bench instead of playing for us.

He’d be unlikely to be playing for us

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:09 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:39 pm
I’m hoping that we bring in some quality, proven experience. I think we are going to need it.

Don’t think that’s the plan though.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:15 pm**

Sign experienced players. Fertile ground for those on here who love to complain about our ageing squad.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:17 pm**

claret59 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:15 pm
Sign experienced players. Fertile ground for those on here who love to complain about our ageing squad.

Experienced could be a 22 year old.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:18 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:17 pm
Experienced could be a 22 year old.

And experienced doesn't mean better.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:19 pm**

Smile wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:01 pm
But there's always the possibility that some players coming in, while 'cheap' - are the best signings we'll make in years.

"Cheap easy deals" sounds like we're bringing in people who happen to have a couple of legs and can run around for a bit.

Don’t think that’s the case. We’ve just signed players for relatively very low transfer fees or on loan and the speed in which the deals have been done suggest they have been easy to conclude.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:20 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:39 pm
I’m hoping that we bring in some quality, proven experience. I think we are going to need it.

A quick stab in the dark says we already have plenty of players with quality and experience in the squad…

Cork
Taylor
Jay Rod
JBG
Westwood
Barnes
Vydra
…

Then there’s players rumoured to be leaving still currently in the squad (all with quality and experience)

Collins
Roberts
Cornet
Lowton
Hennessey
…

When VK stated he was happy to work with what he inherited I believe it’s the experienced players that he was referring to.

Yes, it will be a hard task to gel a team instantly, but he’s bringing in proper quality youngsters who have no fear - hit the ground running and we will do fine.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:21 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:19 pm
Don’t think that’s the case. We’ve just signed players for relatively very low transfer fees or on loan and the speed in which the deals have been done suggest they have been easy to conclude.

They’ve probably only been easy to conclude because of the Vincent Kompany effect.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:25 pm**

Smile wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:18 pm
And experienced doesn't mean better.

And without experience you achieve nothing.

When Fergie won the league with al those kids they still had Schmeichel, Pallister, Bruce and Irwin in defence.

He had a load of experienced, wise players in there for a reason.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:26 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:21 pm
They’ve probably only been easy to conclude because of the Vincent Kompany effect.

I’m sure that has played a big part, particularly with the City players. Obviously the large wage increase will have also helped.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:26 pm**

HunterST_BFC wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:58 pm
Hennessey to Forrest.
Telegraph

Going from starting at Burnley to the bench at Forest? Where is the sense in that?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:26 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:19 pm
Don’t think that’s the case. We’ve just signed players for relatively very low transfer fees or on loan and the speed in which the deals have been done suggest they have been easy to conclude.

I suppose a lot depends on who goes/stays.
if our most valuable players leave we may be able to bring in more experienced (more expensive) targets.
If they stay we will have a blend with them and the young players we have brought in

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:28 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:26 pm
I suppose a lot depends on who goes/stays.
if our most valuable players leave we may be able to bring in more experienced (more expensive) targets.
If they stay we will have a blend with them and the young players we have brought in

True. Although selling one of our assets may bring in enough for us to make 2 or 3 more established signings.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:31 pm**

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:26 pm
Going from starting at Burnley to the bench at Forest? Where is the sense in that?

He wouldn’t be starting at Burnley

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:31 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:28 pm
True. Although selling one of our assets may bring in enough for us to make 2 or 3 more established signings.

Yes.
I guess that depends on who wants in or out, or who VK doesn't really want.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:31 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:19 pm
Don’t think that’s the case. We’ve just signed players for relatively very low transfer fees or on loan and the speed in which the deals have been done suggest they have been easy to conclude.

Yes. Because Kompany is the manager and reports say he's been personally speaking to them first.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:34 pm**

Smile wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:31 pm
Yes. Because Kompany is the manager and reports say he's been personally speaking to them first.

So they were easy to conclude…

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:40 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:34 pm
So they were easy to conclude…

Read what I put. I said I imagine he spoke to them first. First doesn't mean concluding. Concluding means the end part of the deal.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:43 pm**

He has been pitching his vision to some of these players for over a month, they are all coming in buying into it, I can only get excited, yes there are going to be rough patches but in my mind, letting go the likes of Hennessey frees up a large wage, offer that saved money to some like Cornet, McNeil, Collins to negate the need of them taking a cut in wages and we will really have a side capable of returning at the first time of asking,

RJ Egan allows one of Roberts or Lowton to leave, possibly decent money for one and a hefty wage off the books

McNally allows Long to leave, again another big wage and think McNally will be back up for the most part

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:43 pm**

Spijed wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:25 pm
And without experience you achieve nothing.

When Fergie won the league with al those kids they still had Schmeichel, Pallister, Bruce and Irwin in defence.

He had a load of experienced, wise players in there for a reason.

Not forgetting the fact that it just happened to be a bunch of kids that were exceptional talents.

I think it’s fairly obvious that Pace’s vision isn’t to see us plodding along in the Championship for too long. The longer we leave it, the harder it will be to achieve Europe in five years!!

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:43 pm**

Smile wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:40 pm
Read what I put. I said I imagine he spoke to them first. First doesn't mean concluding. Concluding means the end part of the deal.

Chill, Frank. I just said that we’ve got the cheap, easy deals over the line early. Not sure what’s so contentious about that, it’s not a criticism.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:56 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:04 pm
Good job we've got one of the best CB's the world has seen in the modern era to coach them

And Vincent Kompany hasn't joined Burnley "on the cheap."

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Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:01 pm**

Spijed wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:25 pm
And without experience you achieve nothing.

When Fergie won the league with al those kids they still had Schmeichel, Pallister, Bruce and Irwin in defence.

He had a load of experienced, wise players in there for a reason.

Isn't there a significant difference? Fergie's team of "don't win anything with youngsters" won the Premier league. Vincent Kompany's re-built Burnley will be competing in the Championship.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:05 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:43 pm
Not forgetting the fact that it just happened to be a bunch of kids that were exceptional talents.

I think it’s fairly obvious that Pace’s vision isn’t to see us plodding along in the Championship for too long. The longer we leave it, the harder it will be to achieve Europe in five years!!

It's reminding everyone that the target is achieving Europe in 5 seasons that get's my "like."

Exciting times.

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Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:08 pm**

Smile wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:31 pm
Yes. Because Kompany is the manager and reports say he's been personally speaking to them first.

And, so far as we've heard, VK hasn't needed to cook anyone an omelette to get them to sign.

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