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So clubs in the championship find it harder to get new investment because they're not in the PL?
I don’t lead a depressing life at all. Quite the opposite actually. My outlook on BFC is a little negative at present as I feel the new custodians of our club are chancers, nothing more. Prior to the Newcastle match someone well connected to the club told me in our Lounge in the BL that Pace had been in Vietnam the previous week desperately seeking new backers. This was prior to us being relegated.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 4:08 pmSo clubs in the championship find it harder to get new investment because they're not in the PL?
That's clearly wrong.
Interesting that so many of you are of the mindset from the off that the owners will do nothing, you must all lead some depressing lives if that's your outlook
How do you arrive at that conclusion? I don’t want the club to fail at all I am just pointing out that Kompany hasn’t been appointed yet and time is ticking. With any negotiations the longer they rumble on, the more doubt sets in.eastcoastclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 4:12 pmIt seems some of our fans want us to fail, I can't get my head around that.
I said he will want assurances on funding available. Whether Pace can give him these assurances with or without investment only Pace knows. I do know though that Pace is actively seeking investment to probably service the current debt and to give us a decent tilt at a swift return to the Premier League.arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 4:30 pmSo let me get this right, you think that Kompany will only accept the job if we have a new investor?
So to get the manager we want we also need to attract multi million pound investment?
This is not remotely a comment on ALK or their much documented (on here) efforts to source new investment but it is unquestionably harder to get investment outside the PL and everyone in football would agree.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 4:08 pmSo clubs in the championship find it harder to get new investment because they're not in the PL?
That's clearly wrong.
You're preaching at someone who's banged the drum about how we under utilised our time in the PL to grow the brand of Burnley FCspt_claret wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 4:39 pmThis is not remotely a comment on ALK or their much documented (on here) efforts to source new investment but it is unquestionably harder to get investment outside the PL and everyone in football would agree.
The premier league offers orders of magnitude greater exposure, public/brand awareness, revenue potential and marketing & networking opportunities. All of these matter enormously to anyone investing as a commercial opportunity rather than vanity project.
No arguments there. I genuinely felt like Sean Dyche and neutral fans' memes did better at marketing us than the marketing team.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 5:24 pmYou're preaching at someone who's banged the drum about how we under utilised our time in the PL to grow the brand of Burnley FC
The inside channel between full back and centre half, but just infront of them rather than behind. Think Kevin de Bruyne at City, operates always in the right half space, and killed us at the home game there.
Think a bit of both, but could also depends on what business we do. The good thing is the shape off the ball is basically 4-4-2, something the current players are very used to.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:01 pmIs everyone just expecting Kompany to install everything of his own beliefs and get rid of anyone who doesn't suit them?
Or a balance of his beliefs and what our current players are good at?
Who knows? I imagine a bit of both. I can’t see many of the existing squad suiting his style so I imagine he will have to adapt.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:01 pmIs everyone just expecting Kompany to install everything of his own beliefs and get rid of anyone who doesn't suit them?
Or a balance of his beliefs and what our current players are good at?
Much easier to adapt our style in the Championship for obvious reasons.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:05 pmWho knows? I imagine a bit of both. I can’t see many of the existing squad suiting his style so I imagine he will have to adapt.
In old money the left/right half positions were more advanced than the centre halves (space between full backs and wings), more like wing-back positions than the full back of the flat back four.
Connor Roberts is the best lateral-direito we've ever hadRVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:18 amAnyone who was following this thread at the time and read the initial article, did you notice it all come alive last night?
In particular from the article, the ‘subtle tweak to the tactic’ that the author talked about was Roberts dropping to create a 3 man defence in the build up phase.
The width on the right was provided by Costelloe last night. In other games we will see Cullen play that role Roberts did last night in the build up phase, and Roberts would be providing the width.
This image taken from a foreign twitter account which analysed our play last night, shows the positioning in the build up phase, which is all about creating space for Brownhill / Bastien to drift into.
I found it super interesting to see everything the article discussed happening in front of my eyes, quicker than I expected! Looking forward to more.
You got the link mate?RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:18 amAnyone who was following this thread at the time and read the initial article, did you notice it all come alive last night?
In particular from the article, the ‘subtle tweak to the tactic’ that the author talked about was Roberts dropping to create a 3 man defence in the build up phase.
The width on the right was provided by Costelloe last night. In other games we will see Cullen play that role Roberts did last night in the build up phase, and Roberts would be providing the width.
This image taken from a foreign twitter account which analysed our play last night, shows the positioning in the build up phase, which is all about creating space for Brownhill / Bastien to drift into.
I found it super interesting to see everything the article discussed happening in front of my eyes, quicker than I expected! Looking forward to more.
Article? It’s on the op of this thread
Kompany will have considered counters. It will be whether we have the players to adapt to that. Cullen and Cork are experienced where we need it to change if we have to.
On a couple of occasions Cullen dropped into the middle of the 3 and THB went right. I was delighted how smooth it all looked. Every player, defensively, seemed to know the plan and where the cover was needed. With time it will improve. Excellent opening performance.
Not sure Long will feature much if at all, the passing game isn’t really suited IMO. Taylor I thought did very well and has good ability on the ball too. Will be put under more pressure than that though against other teams.Goalposts wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:01 amI thought the analysis from way back in may proved very insightful, i think we will only get better. Still need to tweak a few things but on the whole a very exciting journey we are on. But now teams have seen us they will have counter plans. Man mark Cullen ?.. push there own wing backs on ? Play a five man midfield ?
Still need to strengthen, interesting that long didn’t play last night at CB, not sure Charlie is best suited to that.
If I was to be concerned it would be the defence however they are reasonably quick and we play with so much of the ball it really doesn’t come under pressure often. A long ball over the top should be dealt with easily as we have the pace to deal
The big difference for Taylor, is he now has an option to square it to a teammate, even if they have players around them, or pass back to the keeper. No need to launch it anymore.
Quicker striker means that we could really force their back line back, which frees up more space where we want to play in the middleColburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:36 amThe big difference for Taylor, is he now has an option to square it to a teammate, even if they have players around them, or pass back to the keeper. No need to launch it anymore.
It worked so well last night. Different opposition would maybe press us harder, but because we have that fluidity we can exploit that as well as anyone. It would help with a quicker more agile striker though.
Having said that, and I'm someone who would like barnes replaced, the high line yesterday allowed for our midfield to break beyond and get in several times.Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:38 amQuicker striker means that we could really force their back line back, which frees up more space where we want to play in the middle
Costello actually did a v good job in the first half giving us the width and pace, but a more complete striker than Barnes would certainly help
Jay would be better for starters
We were allowed to play with a high line because Huddersfield were so poor, I think we are talking about exploiting a team that's pressing us, and turning it to an advantage.Stevie Morgan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:52 amHaving said that, and I'm someone who would like barnes replaced, the high line yesterday allowed for our midfield to break beyond and get in several times.
I'm talking about Huddersfields relatively high line due to playing up against BarnesColburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:58 amWe were allowed to play with a high line because Huddersfield were so poor, I think we are talking about exploiting a team that's pressing us, and turning it to an advantage.
Yeah the older players like Barnes, Cork and Taylor really stood out as not understanding the new way of playingNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:57 amCan’t wait to see Barnes learn these new tactics haha
No they didn't,they fitted in perfect.SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:41 amYeah the older players like Barnes, Cork and Taylor really stood out as not understanding the new way of playing
Was still a 4 out of possession, it’s in the build up phase of play when it becomes a 3, that’s pretty much what we were discussing in here and what the article pointed out.Top Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:02 pmAll the clever clogs on here said that he would play 4 across the back and he did the complete opposite with playing 3 centre halfs and a 3 man midfield, which was nice to see
I think you may have missed the sarcasm
That's incorrectTop Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:02 pmAll the clever clogs on here said that he would play 4 across the back and he did the complete opposite with playing 3 centre halfs and a 3 v 2 midfield, which was nice to see
Got youStevie Morgan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:34 amI'm talking about Huddersfields relatively high line due to playing up against Barnes
Yep. We used both variations at times last night - at times Cork or Cullen dropped in and both fullbacks went, but also at times Roberts tucked in to make a back 3 that way.RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:18 amAnyone who was following this thread at the time and read the initial article, did you notice it all come alive last night?
In particular from the article, the ‘subtle tweak to the tactic’ that the author talked about was Roberts dropping to create a 3 man defence in the build up phase.
The width on the right was provided by Costelloe last night. In other games we will see Cullen play that role Roberts did last night in the build up phase, and Roberts would be providing the width.
This image taken from a foreign twitter account which analysed our play last night, shows the positioning in the build up phase, which is all about creating space for Brownhill / Bastien to drift into.
I found it super interesting to see everything the article discussed happening in front of my eyes, quicker than I expected! Looking forward to more.
