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Andy Goram

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon May 30, 2022 3:02 pm

Double international, football and cricket, Andy Goram has been diagnosed with terminal oesophagal cancer. Sadly this has spread to various other organs.
A super keeper at his best. My wishes are with him and his family at this dreadful news.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by elwaclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 3:07 pm

Awful news, best wishes to Andy Goram and his family. Daily record reporting he’s been given 6 months.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scot ... s-27097494

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon May 30, 2022 3:37 pm

That's absolutely shocking news for Andy Goram. I remember him as a young teenager back in the 1970's vying for the position of goalkeeper for 'Bury Boys' with another lad from St Gabriel's in Bury. Andy attended Seedfield High School, close to the old Bury General Hospital. Of course he went on to have a wonderful career. Still a relatively young man. Stay strong, Andy.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Herts Clarets » Mon May 30, 2022 3:40 pm

Sure he used to feature on the cover of an early 80s BFC programme, Oldham playing in orange and Billy Hamilton challenging him....

Devastating news for him.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Herts Clarets » Mon May 30, 2022 3:44 pm

Just checked and I was getting them mixed up. It's one of the Futchers in orange with Billy on the cover.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 30, 2022 3:44 pm

Awful news

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by andyh » Mon May 30, 2022 4:43 pm

I remember 2 Andy Gorams chant when he had mental health problems. Not the most sensitive of chants but I admit it did make me smile.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Jamesy » Mon May 30, 2022 4:54 pm

Very sad news. He looks about 70 years old in that photo. Best wishes to him for a relatively comfortable last chapter in his life.
Top Goalkeeper.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 5:18 pm

I've had this cancer, twice.
The first time in 2009 I was cured by surgery.
The second time in 2017 I was cured by radiotherapy and chemotherapy.
On neither occasion had it spread.
I see that Andy Goram ignored the symptoms until it was too late.
The lesson to be learnt is this: if you feel food sticking in your gullet, get yourself to your GP immediately.
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Re: Andy Goram

Post by AwayClaret » Mon May 30, 2022 5:34 pm

Isn't it known as the silent assassin? Most people don't learn until its too late but is it down to heartburn and changing the lining of the esophagus?

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 5:50 pm

AwayClaret wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 5:34 pm
Isn't it known as the silent assassin? Most people don't learn until its too late but is it down to heartburn and changing the lining of the esophagus?
I'm not sure what causes it, but you're right, the symptoms can remain hidden until it has spread beyond the oesophagus. The survival rate is increasing, but it's still quite low compared to other cancers.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by AwayClaret » Mon May 30, 2022 6:20 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 5:50 pm
I'm not sure what causes it, but you're right, the symptoms can remain hidden until it has spread beyond the oesophagus. The survival rate is increasing, but it's still quite low compared to other cancers.
As far as I'm aware, which is limited knowledge to be honest, it's mostly due to heartburn/acid reflux changing the cells/lining of the esophagus. Even heartburn can go unnoticed. Like a slight bit of chest pain and that's it. But, and again this isn't necessarily correct, my understanding is eating red meat and spicy food whilst suffering from heartburn/acid reflux isn't great to eat. I'm probably completely wrong it's just something I looked at years ago because my friend died of it with no time to fight it.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Smile » Mon May 30, 2022 6:24 pm

I remember watching him play for Glasgow Rangers in the good old days when the Champions League was for Champions.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by beddie » Mon May 30, 2022 6:59 pm

It’s just dreadful to hear that news. Thoughts are with him.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by boatshed bill » Mon May 30, 2022 7:12 pm

I liked him when he played for Rangers, good character.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Claret Till I Die » Mon May 30, 2022 8:09 pm

Awful news, awful disease.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 30, 2022 8:56 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 5:18 pm
I've had this cancer, twice.
The first time in 2009 I was cured by surgery.
The second time in 2017 I was cured by radiotherapy and chemotherapy.
On neither occasion had it spread.
I see that Andy Goram ignored the symptoms until it was too late.
The lesson to be learnt is this: if you feel food sticking in your gullet, get yourself to your GP immediately.
I thought of you immediately I heard this news today and the scare you gave us all in 2009.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 9:00 pm

Thanks for that, Tony. I appreciate it, and I won't forget the kindness that you and other Clarets Madders showed back then.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Belgianclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 9:04 pm

Terrible news.

I lost several family members to this terrible illness.

Lots of love, strength & courage to all those affected and to their family & friends.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by tiger76 » Mon May 30, 2022 9:07 pm

Thoughts with Andy and his family at this distressing time, hope he can at least enjoy his final months in peace.

Been a tough year for Rangers stalwarts, Walter Smith, Jimmy Bell, and now Andy Goram.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Steve1956 » Tue May 31, 2022 9:28 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 9:07 pm
Thoughts with Andy and his family at this distressing time, hope he can at least enjoy his final months in peace.

Been a tough year for Rangers stalwarts, Walter Smith, Jimmy Bell, and now Andy Goram.
Read about this yesterday,Goram was a fantastic keeper...so so sad to see him looking a shell of his former self
Cancer really is a b@stard.
Enjoy your last days Andy,don't think you will ever be forgotten up here,especially by the Rangers fans.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Quicknick » Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:44 am

Very sad, indeed.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by John Gayles Shoulder » Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:38 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 7:12 pm
I liked him when he played for Rangers, good character.

Horrendous illness and I wouldn't wish it on anyone

That said, I would argue the good character assessment. Known round Glasgow for his suspect behaviours and his overtly sectarian opinions, plus by his own proud admission, racial slurs when playing against Van Hooijdonk, I don't think we can rewrite his character just because he is ill

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by mkmel » Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:05 pm

My Dad had cancer of the oesophagus in about 1982 and had to have surgery. I remember how it all started when my Mum and Dad came round our house for a meal and my Dad said he had trouble swallowing his meal. I can picture it now.

Unfortunately the cancer returned in about 1984 and I had the hardest and most difficult task that I have ever had to do in my life when I had to tell my Dad that the cancer had returned.

My Dad died in 1986.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by mkmel » Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:37 pm

Sorry I got thinking of my Dad in my post just now and didn't say that I hope that Andy Goram stays strong and somehow pulls through.

His weight loss however is reminiscent of what happened to my Dad.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:30 pm

John Gayles Shoulder wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:38 pm
Horrendous illness and I wouldn't wish it on anyone

That said, I would argue the good character assessment. Known round Glasgow for his suspect behaviours and his overtly sectarian opinions, plus by his own proud admission, racial slurs when playing against Van Hooijdonk, I don't think we can rewrite his character just because he is ill
When I say "character" regarding a sportsman, I tend to judge them only from the character they show on the field of play.
Their lives, opinions and general behaviour are of little or no interest to me.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by John Gayles Shoulder » Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:54 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:30 pm
When I say "character" regarding a sportsman, I tend to judge them only from the character they show on the field of play.
Their lives, opinions and general behaviour are of little or no interest to me.
Good to know you hold your sportsmen to no moral standard whatsoever, as long as you're OK :? :lol:

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:02 pm

John Gayles Shoulder wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:54 pm
Good to know you hold your sportsmen to no moral standard whatsoever, as long as you're OK :? :lol:
yep, i'm fine thanks.
hope you are too.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jun 04, 2022 2:36 am

very sad
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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Coshack » Sat Jun 04, 2022 3:39 am

John Gayles Shoulder wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:54 pm
Good to know you hold your sportsmen to no moral standard whatsoever, as long as you're OK :? :lol:
Seriously you're going to act like a tit in a thread like this?
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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:10 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jun 04, 2022 2:36 am
very sad
Brave man..God bless him.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:22 am

Bloody hell, life can really kick you when you're down at times.

I really hope that he finds some inner peace and that his final days are as restful
and as pain free as is humanly possible. Stay strong Andy, and thoughts are with you,
your family and your friends.

Same goes to anyone else suffering at the hands of this dreadful disease, or any other for that matter.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:52 pm

Sadly, Andy Goram has passed away today at the age of 58

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:55 pm

R.I.P
Really sad news.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:56 pm

Sad but alas not unexpected news.

RIP Andy.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:56 pm

RIP Andy

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:57 pm

No age

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Smile » Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:58 pm

RIP Andy.

Legend of a goalkeeper.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Aclaret » Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:03 pm

Sad news..
RIP Andy.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:30 pm

RIP Andy. Dreadful news. Condolences to family and friends.

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Andy Goram RIP

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:50 pm

Just heard the former Scotland goalkeeper has passed away aged 58.

Sad news.

"Andy Goram: Rangers legend dies after battle with cancer | The Independent" https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 14364.html

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Re: Andy Goram RIP

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:26 pm

That's sad news. I mentioned on a previous thread that he was goalkeeper for Bury Schoolboys when I worked there in the 1970's. Far too young. RIP Andy.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:53 pm

Even when it's expected it's dreadful news and an awful thing to have to go through.

RIP Andy - thoughts are with your family and friends.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Paul Waine » Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:33 pm

RIP Andy Goram. Condolences to family and friends.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by bfcjg » Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:49 pm

RIP, great keeper.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:53 pm

RIP big man.

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Re: Andy Goram

Post by Quicknick » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:14 pm

Very sad, indeed. RIP, Andy Goram.

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