The end of the Throw In?
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The end of the Throw In?
Football chiefs agree to trial Arsene Wenger's plans for 'kick-ins' https://mol.im/a/10911341 via https://dailym.ai/android
Might please some who don't like long throw ins
Might please some who don't like long throw ins
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Re: The end of the Throw In?
No wonder we're thinking of flogging Conor Roberts then.
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Re: The end of the Throw In?
Absolutely dreadful idea. These nonsense ideas have been dismissed for generation after generation, yet because Wenger has nothing better to do other than tinker with a notepad, football Governing bodies fall over themselves to turn the most successful sport in the world into an oversized 5 a side match.
How about we stick with the rules and enforce them equally across all the leagues; or is that too radical a solution?
How about we stick with the rules and enforce them equally across all the leagues; or is that too radical a solution?
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Re: The end of the Throw In?
At long last!
Football should be played with feet (predominantly)
I have long held the belief that a throw-in is largely a disadvantage to the team throwing it in. Assuming it is replaced with a kick-in, then this should be much more of a leveller.
Football should be played with feet (predominantly)
I have long held the belief that a throw-in is largely a disadvantage to the team throwing it in. Assuming it is replaced with a kick-in, then this should be much more of a leveller.
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Dreadful idea. Talk about trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
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Can't wait to see foul kick in's!
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I think it would slow the game down even more. Ridiculous idea.
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Re: The end of the Throw In?
Presumably the opposition player wouldn’t have to be 10 yards? If not it effectively turns a throw-in into a free kick and the number of minutes played would fall massively that wouldn’t be added on as “additional time”
While we’re at it, why don’t we change each half to 30 minutes, but the clock stops every time the ball is dead, including up to the point the goalkeeper distributes/boots it?
While we’re at it, why don’t we change each half to 30 minutes, but the clock stops every time the ball is dead, including up to the point the goalkeeper distributes/boots it?
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Re: The end of the Throw In?
Fortunately, we don’t need to worry about long throw ins, seeing as we have no one capable of them….GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:52 pmFootball chiefs agree to trial Arsene Wenger's plans for 'kick-ins' https://mol.im/a/10911341 via https://dailym.ai/android
Might please some who don't like long throw ins
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Time to pack in when these things changeNRC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:19 pmPresumably the opposition player wouldn’t have to be 10 yards? If not it effectively turns a throw-in into a free kick and the number of minutes played would fall massively that wouldn’t be added on as “additional time”
While we’re at it, why don’t we change each half to 30 minutes, but the clock stops every time the ball is dead, including up to the point the goalkeeper distributes/boots it?
Oh and I'm not travelling 500 mile round trip to only guarantee an hour of football. We saw in the Newcastle game that the time just does not get added.
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Perhaps the problem, as Wenger sees it, is that he didn't invent the throw-in so it can't be a good idea?
There's often a problem when people are given the job of reviewing the rules of anything. They feel that to justify their existence, they need to change something - anything - and if they can't find anything that actually needs changing, they will change something that doesn't need it. Either because they want to "make their mark", or because they know they will be out of a job if they say that it's all fine.
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It's been trialled before, maybe in the US. It was abandoned after any attacking throw in took ages with centre halves pushing up and a long ball into the box.
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I'd imagine kick ins will lead to more headers
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Re: The end of the Throw In?
It was trialled in non-league in the UK too and was a failure that time.
Can we please keep track of these failed trialled so as to not waste time in the future?
https://theballisround.co.uk/2014/03/05 ... a-kick-in/
Can we please keep track of these failed trialled so as to not waste time in the future?
https://theballisround.co.uk/2014/03/05 ... a-kick-in/
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So reading the rules, a "kick-in" will only be allowed in the game after the 85th minute and only if the ball goes out of play in your half, if it goes out in the opposition half you still take a throw-in.
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So in essence a super defensive tackle out of play would result in the same attacking advantage as a corner? Makes it totally pointless saving a corner by putting it out for a throw, would reduce drama, and would favour the big clubs who are more adept at passing it out from trouble. Smaller clubs would be penned in against the big guns making it like the Alamo.
Mind numbingly daft but Arsene has to earn his cash somehow.
Or have I not bothered to read the detail? If it is more complex than that, makes it even harder for kids to understand.
Mind numbingly daft but Arsene has to earn his cash somehow.
Or have I not bothered to read the detail? If it is more complex than that, makes it even harder for kids to understand.
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Re: The end of the Throw In?
It would work in the Premier league but not leagues below.
I say that as in the Premier league, most teams play free kicks short and re start play as fast as possible.
In leagues below they would try to kick it in the area.
I say that as in the Premier league, most teams play free kicks short and re start play as fast as possible.
In leagues below they would try to kick it in the area.
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It shows how little the overpaid sod has to do, that he fills his time thinking up garbage like this.
What a waste of money, to sit there trying to reinvent the game, when nobody wants it.
What a waste of money, to sit there trying to reinvent the game, when nobody wants it.
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Part of Wenger’s ‘logic’ is that the team awarded a throw in don’t gain enough advantage. He states that they are actually disadvantaged because the thrower is off the pitch ( surely the same for a free kick taker?). So he’s suggesting that what can often be a fifty fifty scruffy tackle on the byline with the decision often only marginally being able to be awarded one way or the other results in the awarded team being able to lump it into the box.
It doesn’t seem proportional to me.
It doesn’t seem proportional to me.
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Perhaps they could improve the idea even more by using VAR to establish which side of the half-way line the ball went out, and whether it was 84'59" or 85'01". That should add to the excitement.claretburns wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:51 pmSo reading the rules, a "kick-in" will only be allowed in the game after the 85th minute and only if the ball goes out of play in your half, if it goes out in the opposition half you still take a throw-in.
I wonder if Wenger has considered that a side defending a lead that gets a throw in in their own half, would no longer be subject to being pressed by the opponents, but could bang a leisurely free kick into the other half of the field after wasting a suitable amount of time?
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Re: The end of the Throw In?
Aston Villa's foul kick-ins will probably be ignored by VAR as well.
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Re: The end of the Throw In?
I think they should build a low wall around the perimeter and play off the wall, similar
to most 5-a-side games. If a player kicks the ball over the wall he is sin binned for
10 minutes and play restarts with a penalty to the opposition. If the penalty is converted
then the player in the sin bin is released to play, but only with one boot on, on his weaker foot,
and is only allowed to head the ball for the remainder of his sinbin time. He is then allowed to
replace his boot and continue playing as normal - unless his squad number is divisible 3 (in the
1st half) and 2 (in the second half). If a game goes to penalties, then any player that has been
sinbinned is not allowed to take a penalty unless he is only wearing the one boot.
to most 5-a-side games. If a player kicks the ball over the wall he is sin binned for
10 minutes and play restarts with a penalty to the opposition. If the penalty is converted
then the player in the sin bin is released to play, but only with one boot on, on his weaker foot,
and is only allowed to head the ball for the remainder of his sinbin time. He is then allowed to
replace his boot and continue playing as normal - unless his squad number is divisible 3 (in the
1st half) and 2 (in the second half). If a game goes to penalties, then any player that has been
sinbinned is not allowed to take a penalty unless he is only wearing the one boot.
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Just what the game needs. NOT.
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How about we go the whole hog and ban heading the ball as well. Why change what doesn't need fixing. They'd be better off soritng out VAR and dealing with all the pathetic diving that is in the game now.StuffyClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:09 pmAt long last!
Football should be played with feet (predominantly)
I have long held the belief that a throw-in is largely a disadvantage to the team throwing it in. Assuming it is replaced with a kick-in, then this should be much more of a leveller.
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It’s how we play 6aside in the local leagues, if I’m honest I much prefer it, the problem I’d see is it’s effectively a free kick in a dangerous area.
But, will put teams off trying to waste time by kicking the ball out.
I’d be interested to see it trialed in friendlies
But, will put teams off trying to waste time by kicking the ball out.
I’d be interested to see it trialed in friendlies
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Whilst we are at it, we should tackle all the pushing, shoving and hanging on that
goes on in the penalty area for corners and freekicks.
goes on in the penalty area for corners and freekicks.
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I think it should be a blind back heal in facing away from the pitch, taken within 5 seconds of the award or it's a penalty to the opposition
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Re: The end of the Throw In?
A member of the crowd could be asked to throw it in.
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Foul throw ins don't work in our favour so wouldn't make any difference in any case
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alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:18 pmFoul throw ins don't work in our favour so wouldn't make any difference in any case
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That would get in the way of all the time wasting substitutions the club's do in the last few mins of the game though....claretburns wrote: ↑Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:51 pmSo reading the rules, a "kick-in" will only be allowed in the game after the 85th minute and only if the ball goes out of play in your half, if it goes out in the opposition half you still take a throw-in.