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Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by bobinho » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:45 am

News out this morning…
https://www.skysports.com/share/12636576

First of all, good for you love. Should be no reason whatsoever these days that you can’t be who you are in public.

Secondly, sorry Kelly but it WASN’T a secret. People have known for years, and it’s fine.

Always admired her as an athlete, that foto of her face when she realised she’d won gold is absolutely superb.

Hopefully this will send another message out there to folk who are struggling with bringing this into the public domain. Do it, it’s fine, it really is.
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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by The Enclosure » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:53 am

Good for her, its been a long time to hide her sexuality because of public opinion.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by CleggHall » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:55 am

Now that is a surprise!

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Funkydrummer » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:02 am

Slow news day ?

Hardly a surprise but good on her for her courage, albeit a bit late in the day.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by claret wizard » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:14 am

One of our greatest athletes. I thought she was already out?? Not that it really matters. The Forces got rid of the laws banning same sex relationships 20 years ago.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:25 am

Good for her, personally I didn't have a clue but I've never bothered to dig around to find out who she's dating.

Rebel Wilson was forced to come out recently, a journo emailed her to basically tell her they were going to run the story so she broke the news first, which is utterly vile behaviour by the journo.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by bobinho » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:38 am

Agreed GIADJ, awful “journalism” but hardly surprising…. Sensationalism trumps everything else.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:47 am

I thought she was already out as well? Great athlete

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Nonayforever » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:08 am

Is there a need to come out nowadays?
Do you need to come out if you're heterosexual ?
I make models, do I need to come out ?
I get the feeling that gays, the same as vegetarians, for some reason have a need to come out when , really, not that many people have strongly opposed views on it these days.
Just get on with it.
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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:09 am

That didn't take long...
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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Stalbansclaret » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:40 am

Good for her. Perhaps the least surprising "news" since H from Steps came out.
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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by quoonbeatz » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:19 am

Nonayforever wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:08 am
I make models, do I need to come out ?
To yourself probably.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:20 am

bobinho wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:45 am
News out this morning…
https://www.skysports.com/share/12636576

First of all, good for you love. Should be no reason whatsoever these days that you can’t be who you are in public.

Secondly, sorry Kelly but it WASN’T a secret. People have known for years, and it’s fine.

Always admired her as an athlete, that foto of her face when she realised she’d won gold is absolutely superb.

Hopefully this will send another message out there to folk who are struggling with bringing this into the public domain. Do it, it’s fine, it really is.
Not even news worthy these days..each to their own..fantastic athlete is how we should talk about her not her personal life.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Pickles » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:28 am

A person coming out is as much, or more, for their benefit as it is for those receiving the news. It's sort of irrelevant whether someone else thought they knew all along, it was a badly kept secret, or whatever. Coming out shouldn't be necessary ideally, really, but having the peace to not pretend can be a brave step and that journey, however long it takes, can be different for everyone I suppose. Fair play to Dame Kelly. And what an athlete by the way.
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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by bobinho » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:30 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:20 am
Not even news worthy these days..each to their own..fantastic athlete is how we should talk about her not her personal life.
Seems she disagrees.

The torment and anguish SHE felt is surely what’s important here, not that most folk aren’t bothered… and in putting this out there she’s helping others to have the courage to do the same. People used to have to abuse people to their face and suffer the consequences…. Now it’s easy to do it behind a mask online, and people do it to who they perceive as easy targets.

Having said that, I think you’d probably agree with that, as I agree with it not being a big deal anymore to the vast majority of the non gay community. Come a long way in the last thirty years or so. Still some muppets out there, and no doubt we will be hearing about them trolling her in the next few days.

As you say, fantastic athlete.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:31 am

bobinho wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:30 am
Seems she disagrees.

The torment and anguish SHE felt is surely what’s important here, not that most folk aren’t bothered… and in putting this out there she’s helping others to have the courage to do the same. People used to have to abuse people to their face and suffer the consequences…. Now it’s easy to do it behind a mask online, and people do it to who they perceive as easy targets.

Having said that, I think you’d probably agree with that, as I agree with it not being a big deal anymore to the vast majority of the non gay community. Come a long way in the last thirty years or so. Still some muppets out there, and no doubt we will be hearing about them trolling her in the next few days.

As you say, fantastic athlete.
But everyone knew Bobinho ..just get on with life...its to short

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:37 am

Nonayforever wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:08 am
Is there a need to come out nowadays?
Do you need to come out if you're heterosexual ?
I make models, do I need to come out ?
I get the feeling that gays, the same as vegetarians, for some reason have a need to come out when , really, not that many people have strongly opposed views on it these days.
Just get on with it.
Is there a need?
Yes, as mentioned above if someone famous hasn't come out there are tabloids willing to do it for/to them.

Hetro - no, because as you're aware it's considered normal.

Models - each to their own, not my thing, but well done for admitting it.

Different entirely to veganism

"Just get on with it"
They are, they've been getting on with it and living their lives but sadly they'll still be targeted, abused online even if they don't have a social media account and in some cases physically attacked.

The famous people are helping to normalise being gay, trans, bi etc.
It's quite a big deal for a non-famous person to have famous people being open about their sexuality, it helps them to start their journey to coming out to those around them.

When someone comes out they run the "risk" of being cut off by family, friends and also aggravation at work.

Even now you, and others, don't understand why famous people are "feeling the need" to come out but they're not doing it for you, they're doing it for themselves and the millions of other people who're scared about being honest to their loved ones about their sexuality.

If you know someone who's gay etc, to talk to them about when they came out and listen to their story.
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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by StuffyClaret » Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:03 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:08 am
I get the feeling that gays, the same as vegetarians, for some reason have a need to come out when , really, not that many people have strongly opposed views on it these days.
I have to dispute this point......Vegetarians will ALWAYS tell you that that they are veggies regardless of whether you want to know

FACT
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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by pushpinpussy » Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:10 pm

i always thought she was as although she was an excellent runner she was terrible at ball games.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Jamesy » Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:16 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:10 pm
i always thought she was as although she was an excellent runner she was terrible at ball games.
Ooh dear.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:18 pm

I actually thought she was already out. She’s one of our all time great Olympic athletes and did a lot to get the the Games to London. Class act.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Jamesy » Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:21 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:18 pm
I actually thought she was already out. She’s one of our all time great Olympic athletes and did a lot to get the the Games to London. Class act.
Me too. I was surprised when I heard the announcement. Brilliant athlete and ambassador.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by SouthLondonexile » Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:32 pm

I honestly she has been out there for decades.
Wonderful person and a wonderful athlete.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by midsummersday » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:51 pm

ok Kelly,be who you want to be,live the life you want to ,because you only get one go at it.So long as you live a decent way,who should care
who you give your love too...... Be all you can be,you have done your country proud both military and as an athlete,be proud.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Smile » Sun Jun 19, 2022 1:53 pm

StuffyClaret wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:03 pm
I have to dispute this point......Vegetarians will ALWAYS tell you that that they are veggies regardless of whether you want to know

FACT
Correct. I did notice it drop around the time the "I'm not having my Covid vaccine" brigade came into force.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:36 pm

I was more into athletics than football in the 90s and everybody knew and nobody cared.
Good luck to her going forward.

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Billyblah » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:31 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:21 pm
Me too. I was surprised when I heard the announcement. Brilliant athlete and ambassador.
Maybe she has a biography/auto biography about to be published?

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by AlargeClaret » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:00 pm

Brilliant athlete , thought she’d cone out donkeys years ago ? Is this really newsworthy ffs. Any other “ shocks “ Balding , Alex Scot etc etc who cares.

In other news man has landed on the moon and Elvis Pressley has died .

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:55 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:08 am
Is there a need to come out nowadays?
Do you need to come out if you're heterosexual ?
I make models, do I need to come out ?
I get the feeling that gays, the same as vegetarians, for some reason have a need to come out when , really, not that many people have strongly opposed views on it these days.
Just get on with it.
....it depends if you're wearing white socks and sandals while you're making the models! :D

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Re: Dame Kelly Holmes

Post by bfcjg » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:02 pm

Brilliant athlete, represented us and the army so well, genuine person as has been alluded to on this thread it's how you are with others that is important not who you are. By doing what she has done she feels happier that will do for.me, my goodness she gave us some brilliant times watching her.

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