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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:52 am

FeedTheArf wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:50 am
There’s a guy down at Wycombe that got 17 goals and 7 assists last year. Reckon he could do a job.
Im sure he will, but he's not an established Championship goalscorer

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Post by BigChaCha » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:52 am

Knight would be an impressive signing but we've probably left it far too late... We had the chance a few seasons ago when we were last linked to him and I would be very surprised if we were to beat some of the bigger clubs for his signature.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:53 am

FeedTheArf wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:50 am
There’s a guy down at Wycombe that got 17 goals and 7 assists last year. Reckon he could do a job.
He was the highest rated player in league 1 last season

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Post by BigChaCha » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:55 am

I’m honestly not bothered about missing out on Muleka. Can’t help but feel as though he was a risk. Could have obviously paid off but who knows. Would much rather see us go in for an established championship goal scorer.
Unfortunately, the chances of us signing an established, proven goalscorer at this level are slim and none and slim's out of town!.. Whatever striker we decide to buy, it's going to be a gamble with a large element of risk.

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Post by daveisaclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:56 am

I don't think there should be any WP problems for Muleka. My understanding is that anyone who played regularly in Belgium or Turkey last season should qualify for one with no issue at all and he did both.
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Post by claretandy » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:02 am

colne-claret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:22 am
Muleka deal has problems according to Boden. Linked with Cullen and a young goalkeeper from Belgium. Jason Knight linked too.
Boden will just be going off what HLN said

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:04 am

colne-claret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:33 am
I’m honestly not bothered about missing out on Muleka. Can’t help but feel as though he was a risk. Could have obviously paid off but who knows. Would much rather see us go in for an established championship goal scorer.
There's a guy up at Newcastle who may be available - and it's not Dwight Gale :D

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:04 am

BigChaCha wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:55 am
Unfortunately, the chances of us signing an established, proven goalscorer at this level are slim and none and slim's out of town!.. Whatever striker we decide to buy, it's going to be a gamble with a large element of risk.
Watford and Boro are battling out to get Adam Armstrong on loan. Surely we'd be in with a chance there.

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Post by SurreyClaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:05 am

Flying Without Ings wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:47 am
Boden’s ‘sources’ or ‘information’ are usually from other outlets/pages on Twitter rather than from someone inside the club. So I would be extremely surprised if he knew anything more than the next man at this stage.
Being local, he's also the sort of reporter the club might use to put out stories to force a player or agents hand. You just give him the odd truth every now and again to give him at least a semblance of credibility and people will believe his word over others.

Like you said FWI, he's more of a copier than a supplier of information, but tbh most of twitter is just that unfortunately. Added to that you have agents/players leaking stuff to get their names out there (Stephens article) or improve their negotiations, and then just a host of attention seekers just throwing random **** out there to get clicks/followers - if just one comes true they are seen as being "in the know" when in reality they know sweet FA.

Nixon is seen as a messiah, but in reality he uses all of the above tactics so whilst is hit rare is higher, he's also peddling a lot of crap or being used/paid by agents - when stuff doesn't happen, he just says things have changed to cover his story (and the majority can't be disproved so he gets away with it).
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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:05 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:04 am
Watford and Boro are battling out to get Adam Armstrong on loan. Surely we'd be in with a chance there.
I believe Armstrong has quite a close relationship with Rovers fans and hence quite an unlikely one

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Post by Bigvince » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:08 am

colne-claret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:33 am
I’m honestly not bothered about missing out on Muleka. Can’t help but feel as though he was a risk. Could have obviously paid off but who knows. Would much rather see us go in for an established championship goal scorer.
I also think Muleka would be a risk, but for a realitively low fee, compared to an established championship goal scorer

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Post by Top Claret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:09 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:04 am
There's a guy up at Newcastle who may be available - and it's not Dwight Gale :D
He is going nowhere he will sit his contract out, who wouldn't?.

He would lose millions leaving

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:10 am

Regarding Knight - yes please

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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:11 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:04 am
There's a guy up at Newcastle who may be available - and it's not Dwight Gale :D
I wouldn't have that tosser back even for a single pound

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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:13 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:04 am
Watford and Boro are battling out to get Adam Armstrong on loan. Surely we'd be in with a chance there.
Armstrong is 25, that's far to old for the "Kompany babes" team :lol:
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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:20 am

BigChaCha wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:55 am
Unfortunately, the chances of us signing an established, proven goalscorer at this level are slim and none and slim's out of town!.. Whatever striker we decide to buy, it's going to be a gamble with a large element of risk.
It's a good job we already have one who has just signed a new contract then.

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:22 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:13 am
Armstrong is 25, that's far to old for the "Kompany babes" team :lol:
Kompany's Kids?

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Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:25 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:11 am
I wouldn't have that tosser back even for a single pound
What's your issue with him?
A good servant to the club, and played a big part in our PL survival in previous seasons.
I'm not a huge fan of his style personally, but I have no ill will towards him whatsoever.
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:28 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:20 am
It's a good job we already have one who has just signed a new contract then.
Who are you talking about?

Jay Rodriguez has only played one season at this level in the last decade, granted he got 22, but to be 'established' at this level he'd have to play a few seasons at least

Ashley Barnes' best season at this level was 11 goals.

Matej Vydra is now a free agent

Weghorst and Cornet are both unlikely to be here and have never played at that level.

We're down to two strikers, both of which are either inexperienced at this level or haven't got results.

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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:29 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:20 am
It's a good job we already have one who has just signed a new contract then.
Exactly Barnes will be an handfull along with Rodriguez who both won't play all season but will score, then there's vydra deadly at this level when back, he'll probably play after the world cup, he'll be like a new signing, these three will play alongside Twine etc

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Post by clarethomer » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:31 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:28 am
Who are you talking about?

Jay Rodriguez has only played one season at this level in the last decade, granted he got 22, but to be 'established' at this level he'd have to play a few seasons at least

Ashley Barnes' best season at this level was 11 goals.

Matej Vydra is now a free agent

Weghorst and Cornet are both unlikely to be here and have never played at that level.

We're down to two strikers, both of which are either inexperienced at this level or haven't got results.
Past performance is no guide to future performance.

If they get the supply, I would find it hard to imagine Jay/Ash/Twine/McNeil could have better seasons and their goal returns.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:34 am

Kompany’s system needs pace up front for movement in behind. A new striker needs to be at the top of the priority list. Barnes is ok as a 4th choice, hopefully Richardson is before him.

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:35 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:28 am
Who are you talking about?

Jay Rodriguez has only played one season at this level in the last decade, granted he got 22, but to be 'established' at this level he'd have to play a few seasons at least

Ashley Barnes' best season at this level was 11 goals.

Matej Vydra is now a free agent

Weghorst and Cornet are both unlikely to be here and have never played at that level.

We're down to two strikers, both of which are either inexperienced at this level or haven't got results.
I was talking about Rodriguez, but both him and Barnes will score plenty in the Championship.

Did you forget the two seasons Rodriguez had in the Championship with us, where he scored 14 and 15 goals?

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:38 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:35 am
I was talking about Rodriguez, but both him and Barnes will score plenty in the Championship.
Maybe so, but I don't think you can class either of them as established and proven at this level.

14 and 15 goal seasons, how old was he 20ish?

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Post by Paul Waine » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:41 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:28 am
Who are you talking about?

Jay Rodriguez has only played one season at this level in the last decade, granted he got 22, but to be 'established' at this level he'd have to play a few seasons at least

Ashley Barnes' best season at this level was 11 goals.

Matej Vydra is now a free agent

Weghorst and Cornet are both unlikely to be here and have never played at that level.

We're down to two strikers, both of which are either inexperienced at this level or haven't got results.
Hi UTCFCBK, what is it about the Championship that is so special that footballers who've played at a higher level are at a disadvantage when they are playing against footballers who've no experience of playing in the Premier League?
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:44 am

Paul Waine wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:41 am
Hi UTCFCBK, what is it about the Championship that is so special that footballers who've played at a higher level are at a disadvantage when they are playing against footballers who've no experience of playing in the Premier League?
No disadvantage, but between them they've played 15 Premier League seasons and only twice reached double figures.

I never said they wouldn't score goals at that level.

I said they are not 'established' or 'proven' Championship goal scorers.

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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:50 am

BACK ON RUMOURS PLEASE
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Post by joey13 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:51 am

FeedTheArf wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:50 am
There’s a guy down at Wycombe that got 17 goals and 7 assists last year. Reckon he could do a job.
There’s a guy down our chip shop swears he’s Elvis (he isn’t)
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Post by Juan Tanamera » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:44 am

SurreyClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:05 am
Being local, he's also the sort of reporter the club might use to put out stories to force a player or agents hand. You just give him the odd truth every now and again to give him at least a semblance of credibility and people will believe his word over others.

Like you said FWI, he's more of a copier than a supplier of information, but tbh most of twitter is just that unfortunately. Added to that you have agents/players leaking stuff to get their names out there (Stephens article) or improve their negotiations, and then just a host of attention seekers just throwing random **** out there to get clicks/followers - if just one comes true they are seen as being "in the know" when in reality they know sweet FA.

Nixon is seen as a messiah, but in reality he uses all of the above tactics so whilst is hit rare is higher, he's also peddling a lot of crap or being used/paid by agents - when stuff doesn't happen, he just says things have changed to cover his story (and the majority can't be disproved so he gets away with it).
I agree completely with what you say about Nixon, it's like the old adage, if you throw enough darts at the board chances are one will hit the bullseye 🎯
There are quite a few on here who hang on to every word from Nixon.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:47 am

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:44 am
I agree completely with what you say about Nixon, it's like the old adage, if you throw enough darts at the board chances are one will hit the bullseye 🎯
There are quite a few on here who hang on to every word from Nixon.
He broke all 4 out of 4 signings so far… say what you want but that’s pretty good going.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:50 am

Got to say that Nixon has been spot on this window with all four signings, being the first to break at least a couple of them.

It's clear he knows one or two agents rather than someone within the club.

He's not said anything about Mukela and Bastien.

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:50 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:47 am
He broke all 4 out of 4 signings so far… say what you want but that’s pretty good going.
He's normally good on burnley...... Certainly far better than anyone else

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:54 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:47 am
He broke all 4 out of 4 signings so far… say what you want but that’s pretty good going.
He may well have done, but if I may refer back to my 'darts' comment.
As far as exclusives go, Nixon is light years behind the likes of Fabrizio Romano.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:56 am

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:54 am
He may well have done, but if I may refer back to my 'darts' comment.
As far as exclusives go, Nixon is light years behind the likes of Fabrizio Romano.
Nixon is easily the best when it comes to Burnley.

Fabrizio Romano much better when it comes to the wider picture, bigger clubs and European business.

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:57 am

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:54 am
He may well have done, but if I may refer back to my 'darts' comment.
As far as exclusives go, Nixon is light years behind the likes of Fabrizio Romano.
Not for burnley though, or British internal transfers, so a pretty irrelevant comparison

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:00 pm

Nixon gets all his info from agents.

Derby fans worked out all his info was coming from Stretford on the Derby saga (Rooneys agent)

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Post by kentonclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:07 pm

joey13 wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:51 am
There’s a guy down our chip shop swears he’s Elvis (he isn’t)

Sign him up we already have Costelloe :lol:
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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:08 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:54 am
He may well have done, but if I may refer back to my 'darts' comment.
As far as exclusives go, Nixon is light years behind the likes of Fabrizio Romano.
1. They cover completely different clubs 2. Fabrizio Romano gets labelled a tap in merchant as he just confirms stuff that’s already out there 3. Your darts comment is bizarre, he broke all 4 of our signings, no one else did, fact 4. Any other links may or may not happen, there may be interest but the transfer doesn’t get serious, he’s just reporting interest at first

Aside from all the above, you are spot on
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Post by ClaretAL » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:11 pm

It didn't take long for yet another thread to turn in to bickering from the same people yet again, and 1 renamed. Guys you seriously need to get a grip or a job and stop taking the board down to a level that should only be found in the school yard. Can we just please leave the bickering away from this thread before this 1 goes the same way as the last one.
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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:53 pm

Instead of taking a risk with unproven strikers surely a season loan deal for Woods makes sense ? All parties happy ? With Twine, JB and Mcneill providing ammo he might get 15 plus.

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Post by boyyanno » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:59 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:35 am
I was talking about Rodriguez, but both him and Barnes will score plenty in the Championship.

Did you forget the two seasons Rodriguez had in the Championship with us, where he scored 14 and 15 goals?
We mightaswell get Charlie Austin back in then, he scored a few for us as well.

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:59 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:53 pm
Instead of taking a risk with unproven strikers surely a season loan deal for Woods makes sense ? All parties happy ? With Twine, JB and Mcneill providing ammo he might get 15 plus.
Which Woods?

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Post by CombatClaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:59 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:56 am
I don't think there should be any WP problems for Muleka. My understanding is that anyone who played regularly in Belgium or Turkey last season should qualify for one with no issue at all and he did both.
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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:05 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:11 pm
It didn't take long for yet another thread to turn in to bickering from the same people yet again, and 1 renamed. Guys you seriously need to get a grip or a job and stop taking the board down to a level that should only be found in the school yard. Can we just please leave the bickering away from this thread before this 1 goes the same way as the last one.
Who is bickering? When someone wades into a civil discussion and accuses those people of bickering, why doesn't that person realise that they are in fact the one bickering? The irony appears to be lost on you.

Personally, I'm sick of seeing someone use the word bicker every ten minute on here, it's completely stifling discussion and taking this board down to the level you talk about.
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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:07 pm

People with differing opinions

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:09 pm

CombatClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:59 pm
Makes sense. Standard Liege will be a band 1 club, which is why Bastien deal can continue.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by daveisaclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:15 pm

CombatClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:59 pm
He gets 10 points for playing for a band 2 club. He also gets points from the table in the top right of this tweet for playing % of minutes for a band two club. Given he played 19 times for Standard (also a band 2 club) and 12 times for Kasimpasa I'm assuming he is at least in the 40-49% bracket which would get him the 5 extra points needed.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:15 pm

If its a WP issue, then we need to be looking at different targets asap

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by blake's wand » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:16 pm

Surely if we are even making a bid for a player, we know if there is a good chance of a work permit or not? If someone on twitter can work it out. Unless there is a subjectie element of an appeal.

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