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Post by FCBurnley » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:59 pm

Great at free kicks. Usually Churlinov the post Sorry

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Post by Sproggy » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:59 pm

Longsidejono wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:55 pm
The formation we play at the moment, we play Vitinho, Costello, benson, bastien (unless he moves to middle) tella? Churlinov? Jbg? 2 positions 7 players
Maybe Tella and Churlinov rote for the Barnes role? That bit of pace will mean teams can't press us as high up the pitch.

If not, there are a lot of players available for 2 positions.

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Post by Greekclaret » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:21 pm

With peacock-Farrell, Egan, Vitinho, McNally, Tella, Jay and Cork on the bench with Twine, Westy and JBG to come back and potentially Churlinov and the Ukrainian ST coming in we’re going to have genuine threat from the bench and players will be left out also.

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Post by Longsidejono » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:21 pm

Sproggy wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:59 pm
Maybe Tella and Churlinov rote for the Barnes role? That bit of pace will mean teams can't press us as high up the pitch.

If not, there are a lot of players available for 2 positions.
Absolutely I mean kompany is in charge he’s the man, problem being when we conceed it’s Taylor’s fault cause he’s a lb shouldnt be cb (he was fine when we beat Huddersfield) and when we don’t score it will then become the wingers fault (Barnes fault when we didn’t beat Luton) nature of the business I suppose 😂 can’t do right from wrong anyway get them all in! Wingers to suit the whingers! 😂

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Post by scamander » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:47 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:17 pm
So why did he 'cross the Alps' with his elephants? I assume Hannibal came up from eastern Spain; so why not just stick to the coast road and come into Italy around by San Remo, a lump shorter and easier elephant walking country too?
Apologies for the tangent. There was a Roman army waiting near Marseille. Hannibal didn't want to encounter them whilst on the march (hence his double-back in the Rhone Valley).
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Post by IanMcL » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:50 pm

scamander wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:47 pm
Apologies for the tangent. There was a Roman army waiting near Marseille. Hannibal didn't want to encounter them whilst on the march (hence his double-back in the Rhone Valley).
I heard San Remo beach was crammed, so he took the scenic route!

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Post by tiger76 » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:57 pm

Longsidejono wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:55 pm
The formation we play at the moment, we play Vitinho, Costello, benson, bastien (unless he moves to middle) tella? Churlinov? Jbg? 2 positions 7 players
Competition for places, squad rotation, and the 5 subs rule should mean they all get their share of time on the park.

And formations can be changed from game to game, or even during a game.

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Post by KRBFC » Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:43 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:09 pm
Kompany definitely still uses wingers, they just become more narrow, why else would he sign benson who is literally an out and out winger
Yeah but Brownhill and Bastien have taken the 2 forward/winger roles in the 4222.

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Post by claretandy » Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:59 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:43 pm
Yeah but Brownhill and Bastien have taken the 2 forward/winger roles in the 4222.
That's only because we had nobody else, no we do.

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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:54 pm

I’m sorry but I can’t think of a less exciting signing than churlinov at that price. He’s pretty bloody expensive and has 10 goals in his career, 7 of which came for Koln second team. Last season he got 2 in 22 in the German second tier. Can I ask why we are spending a good chunk of money on someone who looks like such an average footballer. I get scouting for the future and all that but at that price he is going to be a starter. 10 goals in his career at a lower level shows us he is certainly not going to be prolific at this level yet.

Hope he’s class x

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:07 am

Churlinov seems like a fairly expensive gamble.

I’d much rather we went tried and tested with this one.
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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:16 am

Let's hope Churlinov is the success story from Bundesliaga not another Wout

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:53 am

I think it’s clear to see why we were targeting Calum O’Hare, as when you dominate possession like we have been, you need that extra technical ability in tight spaces to make things happen. I don’t really get the Churlinov signing as another non-scoring winger doesn’t really seem what we need. I’d much rather see that money go on a quality technical 10 type attacker and striker.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:08 am

BREAKING: NORWICH & BURNLEY MAKE MOVES TO SIGN BOGARDE

Norwich City and Burnley are chasing Hoffenheim defender Melayro Bogarde on loan,
SOURCES HAVE TOLD FOOTBALL INSIDER.

The Championship duo have registered their interest in the Dutchman, 20, as they look to sign a centre-back who can also slot in to full-back and defensive midfield.

Bogarde, a Netherlands under-21 international, spent the second half of last season on loan at FC Groningen, where he played predominantly in midfield.

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Post by Hipper » Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:13 am

Spiral wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:51 pm
Hope he scores a winner at Bristol City some time in his career just for that headline!
Hannibal's shots cause Bristol to wobble.

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Post by Hipper » Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:15 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:08 am
BREAKING: NORWICH & BURNLEY MAKE MOVES TO SIGN BOGARDE

Norwich City and Burnley are chasing Hoffenheim defender Melayro Bogarde on loan,
SOURCES HAVE TOLD FOOTBALL INSIDER.

The Championship duo have registered their interest in the Dutchman, 20, as they look to sign a centre-back who can also slot in to full-back and defensive midfield.

Bogarde, a Netherlands under-21 international, spent the second half of last season on loan at FC Groningen, where he played predominantly in midfield.
Oh no! Play it to Sam (Bastien).
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Post by NewClaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:27 am

Churlinov done according to Will Lancaster ✅

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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:39 am

We'll have to see what Churlinov can add to the side that isn't already there. He looks quite good on his YouTube highlights video.

We're now clearly making the most of the cheaper foreign markets, which I suppose we can't really complain at given how we all wanted to see it under Dyche, but I do worry that the immediate impact we need from these players won't be there (Benson showed last night he'll need months to come to terms with the division).

I wonder if we'd have been better with a hybrid policy of some promising foreign players, mixed with some Championship experience like Swift and Wallace (both would fit into Kompany's system brilliantly). Time will tell.
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Post by DCWat » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:40 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:27 am
Churlinov done according to Will Lancaster ✅
Is this good? I haven’t a clue. Seems a big fee for another winger that may have some potential, but is perhaps a bit of a gamble.

A couple of really decent additions and we could walk this league.

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Post by Quicknick » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:42 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:39 am
We'll have to see what Churlinov can add to the side that isn't already there. He looks quite good on his YouTube highlights video.

We're now clearly making the most of the cheaper foreign markets, which I suppose we can't really complain at given how we all wanted to see it under Dyche, but I do worry that the immediate impact we need from these players won't be there (Benson showed last night he'll need months to come to terms with the division).

I wonder if we'd have been better with a hybrid policy of some promising foreign players, mixed with some Championship experience like Swift and Wallace (both would fit into Kompany's system brilliantly). Time will tell.
Why will Benson needs months to come to terms with the Championship?

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Post by Quicknick » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:43 am

DCWat wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:40 am
Is this good? I haven’t a clue. Seems a big fee for another winger that may have some potential, but is perhaps a bit of a gamble.

A couple of really decent additions and we could walk this league.
Yes, a very good striker and a dominant centre half.

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Post by ksrclaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:44 am

Quicknick wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:42 am
Why will Benson needs months to come to terms with the Championship?
He was kicked out of the game last night and offered very little as a result. He'll need to massively toughen up to be consistently effective at this level. That doesn't happen overnight.
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Post by DCWat » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:45 am

Quicknick wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:43 am
Yes, a very good striker and a dominant centre half.
I was thinking more a striker and an attacking midfielder, though Twine is to come in. The links with O’Hare suggest we do want another.

I would like a dominant centre half too, if I’m being greedy.

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Post by NewClaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:12 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:40 am
Is this good? I haven’t a clue. Seems a big fee for another winger that may have some potential, but is perhaps a bit of a gamble.

A couple of really decent additions and we could walk this league.
Personally I’m most excited by him than I am the other recent wide player links. Only from YT though. :D

Wouldn’t pay too much attention to the fees. Kompany said midweek we’ve only really paid half of what’s been reported. Imagine a lot is performance related.
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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:41 pm

How about a loan to buy for Micheal Keane now he appears surplus at Everton,?

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Post by taio » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:45 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:41 pm
How about a loan to buy for Micheal Keane now he appears surplus at Everton,?
Rejected an approach from West Ham this week

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:47 pm

given what Kompany said about fee's paid I would imagine the quoted cost for Churlinov will be inaccurate

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Post by beddie » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:47 pm

We’ve signed another winger?

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:56 pm

If we sign another defender before a striker :lol:

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:58 pm

Really don’t understand some fans crying out for us to go and get delap on loan, he’s never had a loan spell, he’s only ever played at youth level and couple of games for city in cup. For our striker problems we need a proven guy but they are hard to come by at any level it seems
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Post by NewClaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:59 pm

beddie wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:47 pm
We’ve signed another winger?
We were one short if you assume Cornet, McNiel & JBG were our wingers prior to the window. If you assume McNeil was a ACM & Cornet a striker we were 3 short. 4 when you consider JBG can’t be relied upon to play 4 games, nevermind 46.

We’ve sold two of those, the other is still injured/not fit.

Then we have Costelloe added from U23’s, Benson, Tella and now Churlinov. So up to 4. Benson is a RB/LB being played out of position, presumably due to lack of options on the bench currently.

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Post by willsclarets » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:11 pm

The most exciting thing about churlinov is that his highlights remind me of glen little!
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Post by Nori1958 » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:15 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:58 pm
Really don’t understand some fans crying out for us to go and get delap on loan, he’s never had a loan spell, he’s only ever played at youth level and couple of games for city in cup. For our striker problems we need a proven guy but they are hard to come by at any level it seems
Exactly, he'd be OK as the 3rd or 4th striker, but doubt City would agree to that.

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Post by JR1882 » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:20 pm

It’s a lot of players for a few places but I think that given many are young, some are going to take time to adapt and some won’t handle the rigours of 2 often bruising games per week, it will mean lots of rotation/subs and that’s the way to go for us.

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Post by winsomeyen » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:21 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:42 am
Why will Benson needs months to come to terms with the Championship?
Because he lacks testicular fortitude :oops:

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:21 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:40 am
Is this good? I haven’t a clue. Seems a big fee for another winger that may have some potential, but is perhaps a bit of a gamble.

A couple of really decent additions and we could walk this league.
Agree, quite concerning he couldn't get in the Stuttgart team so was loaned out to the 2nd division, Stuttgart were very nearly relegated themselves. No real goalscoring pedigree.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:25 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:59 pm
We were one short if you assume Cornet, McNiel & JBG were our wingers prior to the window. If you assume McNeil was a ACM & Cornet a striker we were 3 short. 4 when you consider JBG can’t be relied upon to play 4 games, nevermind 46.

We’ve sold two of those, the other is still injured/not fit.

Then we have Costelloe added from U23’s, Benson, Tella and now Churlinov. So up to 4. Benson is a RB/LB being played out of position, presumably due to lack of options on the bench currently.
Bastien, Twine, Brownhill, Vitinho too. Along with Benson, JBG, Tella, Churlinov and Costelloe.

That's 9 players to play in the 3 roles behind the striker (4231).

Benson is not a RB/LB, he's a RW.

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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:36 pm

Looking at the set up last night Burnley are a bit like the Labour Party and need some decent left wingers.
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Post by willsclarets » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:52 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:21 pm
Agree, quite concerning he couldn't get in the Stuttgart team so was loaned out to the 2nd division, Stuttgart were very nearly relegated themselves. No real goalscoring pedigree.

He’s only 22. His career to date, which isn’t by any means awful, doesn’t necessarily mean he won’t be a success. He comes to mind because I just mentioned him, but glen little came from glenavon for 100k at a similar age. Had Robbie Blake had a significantly more promising career than chirlinov? A very extreme example, but kante was rejected by almost everyone.

Many on here were bemoaning the fact that we weren’t looking at cheaper options in Europe with potential sell premiums. We can’t afford proven players at the highest level. They’re all risks of varying degrees, but that’s where we are.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:53 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:21 pm
Agree, quite concerning he couldn't get in the Stuttgart team so was loaned out to the 2nd division, Stuttgart were very nearly relegated themselves. No real goalscoring pedigree.
do you honestly think we would spend 5 million on him ? The fee quoted wont be remotely accurate for a gamble like him

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Post by willsclarets » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:55 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:53 pm
do you honestly think we would spend 5 million on him ? The fee quoted wont be remotely accurate for a gamble like him
I think that’s in euros for a kick off

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:57 pm

Just saw it reported as being around £2.7m which could rise to £4m with bonus’.

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Post by NewClaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:03 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:25 pm
Bastien, Twine, Brownhill, Vitinho too. Along with Benson, JBG, Tella, Churlinov and Costelloe.

That's 9 players to play in the 3 roles behind the striker (4231).

Benson is not a RB/LB, he's a RW.
Sorry, I meant Vitinho is a RB, not Benson.

Twine, Bastien, Brownhill all central players. The only “wingers” we have today are Benson, Tella (loan) & Costelloe, plus hopefully Churlinov. You might consider JBG a winger given he played RM for Dyche but in reality he’ll never beat his man, so we have 4, one of whom isn’t ours.

I don’t think we’ll play 4231 all season. Think we’ll play all sorts of formations but width will be key.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:03 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:55 pm
I think that’s in euros for a kick off
yep, and then add in what Kompany said about the quoted fees being completely wrong...

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Post by Big Vinny K » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:09 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:52 pm
Had Robbie Blake had a significantly more promising career than chirlinov?
Yes he had !

But you are correct that we are presumably buying this lad on what we think he can do in the future rather than what he’s done so far.
The concern I suppose is that when you are taking this approach it’s a big gamble…..especially if you are taking this approach with a number of the new players like we seem to be.
Feels like we do need a couple of signings who are ‘proven’….and I’ve used inverted commas as I mean more proven. That is not necessarily loads of championship experience but played more first team football in a pretty decent league.

But we are where we are and it definitely interesting and pretty exciting at the moment .
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Post by willsclarets » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:14 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:09 pm
Yes he had !

But you are correct that we are presumably buying this lad on what we think he can do in the future rather than what he’s done so far.
The concern I suppose is that when you are taking this approach it’s a big gamble…..especially if you are taking this approach with a number of the new players like we seem to be.
Feels like we do need a couple of signings who are ‘proven’….and I’ve used inverted commas as I mean more proven. That is not necessarily loads of championship experience but played more first team football in a pretty decent league.

But we are where we are and it definitely interesting and pretty exciting at the moment .
Blake had played 49 times in the premier league with Bradford in two seasons and scored 6 goals. I don’t see why churlinov is a worse prospect really

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:17 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:21 pm
Agree, quite concerning he couldn't get in the Stuttgart team so was loaned out to the 2nd division, Stuttgart were very nearly relegated themselves. No real goalscoring pedigree.
He went to a very big team in Germany though even though they where in second division, they got promoted so was playing in a team with the pressures of getting back to the top division.

Kante and mahrez were playing second tier French football before Leicester picked them up

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:20 pm

Churlinov doesn’t feature at all for Stuttgart today. Was on the bench last week in the opening league game.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Boxy » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:37 pm

Hes in the UK having a medical

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Top Claret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:39 pm

Kompany will live or die by the players he signs
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