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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:57 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:37 pm
Also made an offer for Lucas Joao, 2.5m apparently.
Where is this from? Sounds like a decent player.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:59 pm

Think he means Besiktas have made that offer.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:03 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:59 pm
Think he means Besiktas have made that offer.
Ah right! Thought we’d put a bid in!!

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:03 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:59 pm
Think he means Besiktas have made that offer.
Hope they bid for him & Muleka because they heard we wanted them both 🤞🏻🤞🏻

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:37 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:59 pm
Think he means Besiktas have made that offer.
Yep. Sorry for the lack of clarity.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:32 am

Belgian press seem to be reporting the Muleka deal isn’t happening.

HLN also suggesting we will make a bid for Josh Cullen:

‘Another likely to leave is Josh Cullen (26). His contract ends in 2023 and Burnley has been sniffing at the Irishman for a while. Vincent Kompany would like to bring Cullen to The Championship and according to English sources, The Clarets are planning an initial offer of 2 million euros. The question is whether Anderlecht will find that enough. It itself paid only 500,000 euros for the midfielder, but now of course wants maximum return.’

As well, the article links us to their 19 year old keeper Bart Vergruggen who our new GK coach likes.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:41 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:32 am
Belgian press seem to be reporting the Muleka deal isn’t happening.

HLN also suggesting we will make a bid for Josh Cullen:

‘Another likely to leave is Josh Cullen (26). His contract ends in 2023 and Burnley has been sniffing at the Irishman for a while. Vincent Kompany would like to bring Cullen to The Championship and according to English sources, The Clarets are planning an initial offer of 2 million euros. The question is whether Anderlecht will find that enough. It itself paid only 500,000 euros for the midfielder, but now of course wants maximum return.’

As well, the article links us to their 19 year old keeper Bart Vergruggen who our new GK coach likes.
Looks like Muleka is off and Bastien is still on. Strange given they are both from DR Congo, would have though they would hinge on each other.

Cullen would be a decent coup at 2million euros.

We still need a striker though.. Watford and Middlesborough are after Armstrong on loan from Southampton, he'd be a good option for us.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:42 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:41 am
Looks like Muleka is off and Bastien is still on. Strangle given they are both from DR Congo, would have though they would hinge on each other.

Cullen would be a decent coup at 2million euros.

We still need a striker though.. Watford and Middlesborough are after Armstrong on loan from Southampton, he'd be a good option for us.
Yes sounds like Bastien is still on track according to the same article. Let’s hope we have several striker targets as back ups as I feel that’s a priority position now!

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Post by Petersa » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:10 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:32 am

As well, the article links us to their 19 year old keeper Bart Vergruggen who our new GK coach likes.
Who is our new GK coach?

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:18 am

Petersa wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:10 am
Who is our new GK coach?
Sorry I read it wrong, doesn’t say he is our new GK coach, rather Kompany insists he joins (google translate):

‘That should not come as a surprise, because Kompany insists – in addition to physical coach Bram Geers – also take goalkeeper coach Jelle Ten Rouwelaar to Burnley. The latter has a soft spot for Verbruggen, but Anderlecht also see a future in the Dutchman. They want to launch it through the U23 team in 1B.’
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Post by Father Jack » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:18 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 5:41 am
Looks like Muleka is off and Bastien is still on. Strange given they are both from DR Congo, would have though they would hinge on each other.

Cullen would be a decent coup at 2million euros.

We still need a striker though.. Watford and Middlesborough are after Armstrong on loan from Southampton, he'd be a good option for us.
If Muleka has found a league / level he’s now proven himself at then I can understand that can be more attractive to return there than moving to new league and then potentially not pulling up any trees like he struggled in Belgium.

So unless this transfer has got more afew more twists it’s on to plan B.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:20 am


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Post by Murger » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:23 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:20 am
New link, Jason Knight at Derby:

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... on-knight/
I've only seen bits of him, but this is 1 I'd like to see us pull off.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:26 am

Murger wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:23 am
I've only seen bits of him, but this is 1 I'd like to see us pull off.
He seems very versatile. When I watched him for Ireland recently he played left wing and looked really good.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:30 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:20 am
New link, Jason Knight at Derby:

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... on-knight/
I’ve been a fan of Knights for ages.

He’s very good and can play a number of positions. I suspect he would play one of the attacking midfield positions for us
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:30 am

Big problem with that one is that they only have 5 senior players contracted at the moment.

Tough for them to let any go unless it’s an outrageous offer.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:32 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:30 am
Big problem with that one is that they only have 5 senior players contracted at the moment.

Tough for them to let any go unless it’s an outrageous offer.
Alternatively he’s only got 12 months left on his deal

They might see it as a last opportunity to get some decent cash in

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:38 am

Cullen and Knight for 4-5m would be good business.
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Post by Top Claret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:40 am

Derby might need to sell Knight to finance bringing in other players to build there depleted squad.

Aren't there strict FFP rules in League 1 that hold the bigger clubs back?

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Post by jedi_master » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:55 am

If we had wanted Knight, would we have not been better attempting to sign him almost at any point up until the last few days?

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Post by jedi_master » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:00 am

Also, on the subject of Muleka, I wouldn’t write it off yet.

I remember last summer how Cornet was desperate to join Hertha Berlin ahead of us - and he probably was. The bottom line is that Lyon only agreed a sale price with us, so he had to take Burnley’s offer or stay at a club that didn’t want him.

If Beskitas cannot afford him/cannot match our bid (which has been accepted) then the player either comes to Burnley and no doubt gets a large pay increase and plays in a far bigger league, or he stays where he is.
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:20 am

jedi_master wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:00 am
Also, on the subject of Muleka, I wouldn’t write it off yet.

I remember last summer how Cornet was desperate to join Hertha Berlin ahead of us - and he probably was. The bottom line is that Lyon only agreed a sale price with us, so he had to take Burnley’s offer or stay at a club that didn’t want him.

If Beskitas cannot afford him/cannot match our bid (which has been accepted) then the player either comes to Burnley and no doubt gets a large pay increase and plays in a far bigger league, or he stays where he is.
I think given the direction we're moving in with regards to transfers and the desire to get things done early, it's more than likely that Burnley will just move on. With Cornet we decided to wait it out, but Kompany doesn't seem to want to hang around.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:23 am

I know it’s probably not possible but I would love it if we could go after someone like Chris Willock, he was immense last season.

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Post by agreenwood » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:25 am

Doesn’t sound like Besiktas have a pot to **** in.

I’ll bet that Weghorst only does a year there, as they won’t be able to afford the “option”.
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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:27 am

agreenwood wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:25 am
Doesn’t sound like Besiktas have a pot to **** in.

I’ll bet that Weghorst only does a year there, as they don’t be able to afford the “option”.
They must be skint. All the stories that are claiming Mukela wants to go there are quoting that they want a 1 year loan.

It's not like we've put up a massive fee to sign him, 4 million euros and they can't afford to match it.

The hold up with Weghorst is because we can't agree on 'option to' vs 'obligation to' to buy.

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:55 am

Will never forget his "crocodile tears" after the last home match v Newcastle that relegated us

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Post by nig1954 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:57 am

Kylian Hazard, brother of Eden and Thorgan has expressed an interest to work with Kompany. Currently at Cercle Brugges, he’s on Watford’s radar but has stated he would prefer #BFC.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:59 am

nig1954 wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:57 am
Kylian Hazard, brother of Eden and Thorgan has expressed an interest to work with Kompany. Currently at Cercle Brugges, he’s on Watford’s radar but has stated he would prefer #BFC.
That would be like pulling the ugly sister when the other 2 sisters are far better

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:59 am

LancsLive stating there's no issues with the Mukela deal this morning..

"The Liege striker is still expected to complete his move to Burnley despite reports over the weekend of late interest from Besiktas.

The Clarets are keen to tie up a deal worth £3.5million and are also working on a deal for Muleka's team-mate Samuel Bastien with a fee of around £800,000 mooted for the midfielder. The 25-year-old is in the last year of his contract and is also an international team-mate of Muleka with DR Congo."

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... t-24388833

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:04 am

nig1954 wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:57 am
Kylian Hazard, brother of Eden and Thorgan has expressed an interest to work with Kompany. Currently at Cercle Brugges, he’s on Watford’s radar but has stated he would prefer #BFC.
This was made up in twitter from what I can gather

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:07 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:04 am
This was made up in twitter from what I can gather
Highly doubt we'd be looking at him. Spent the last two seasons struggling in the Belgium second tier.

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Post by bumba » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:07 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:59 am
That would be like pulling the ugly sister when the other 2 sisters are far better
Didn't Eden once say Kylian was the best of the three!?
Gotta admit it's doubtful if he's tipped to come to us at the moment you'd think big clubs would be sniffing.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:10 am

bumba wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:07 am
Didn't Eden once say Kylian was the best of the three!?
Gotta admit it's doubtful if he's tipped to come to us at the moment you'd think big clubs would be sniffing.
I believe that was aimed at Thorgan from memory

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:11 am

I think Chelsea took Kylian on on request or Eden at the time , I may have my wires crossed though.

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Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:21 am

I saw the Hazard link on Twitter, but it originated from a bogus profile with about 20 followers. The same profile said we were looking at signing Memphis Depay.

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Post by colne-claret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:22 am

Muleka deal has problems according to Boden. Linked with Cullen and a young goalkeeper from Belgium. Jason Knight linked too.

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Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:24 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:30 am
I’ve been a fan of Knights for ages.

He’s very good and can play a number of positions. I suspect he would play one of the attacking midfield positions for us
A very good young player who can play RW, LW, CM and he can even play RB

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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:28 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:59 am
LancsLive stating there's no issues with the Mukela deal this morning..

"The Liege striker is still expected to complete his move to Burnley despite reports over the weekend of late interest from Besiktas.

The Clarets are keen to tie up a deal worth £3.5million and are also working on a deal for Muleka's team-mate Samuel Bastien with a fee of around £800,000 mooted for the midfielder. The 25-year-old is in the last year of his contract and is also an international team-mate of Muleka with DR Congo."

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/t ... t-24388833
Boden saying the opposite

Shows how little people actually know what's going on

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:28 am

colne-claret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:22 am
Muleka deal has problems according to Boden. Linked with Cullen and a young goalkeeper from Belgium. Jason Knight linked too.
He’s saying he believes the deal is completely off now

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:30 am

If the deal is off let’s hope there’s more discussions with other striker targets as we desperately need some pace / power up there for VK’s system.

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:31 am

Seen a few accounts state that there's work permit problems. I did think that when we moved for him.

Let's hope with have another striker on the radar because we certainly need it.

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Post by colne-claret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:33 am

I’m honestly not bothered about missing out on Muleka. Can’t help but feel as though he was a risk. Could have obviously paid off but who knows. Would much rather see us go in for an established championship goal scorer.

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Post by SurreyClaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:41 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:28 am
He’s saying he believes the deal is completely off now
With conflicting reports out there (and nobody fully believing Boden is in the loop), hopefully it's a ploy to force the deal through, panicking the agent/player to realise they might lose out on the deal on the table, and stopping them trying to play us off against another club.

The club seems to have shifted the mentality to trying to get deals done early, and also not being prepared to be messed around, just from seeing with what happened with the Ballard deal. Whilst you might pay a bit more, at least you're not left with no signings at the end of the window when they fall through, or panic buying dross which we have done previously.

We've had a reputation for penny pinching and last minute buying, which isn't ideal for either the buying or selling club, so hopefully this is a new dawn.
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Post by Flying Without Ings » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:47 am

Boden’s ‘sources’ or ‘information’ are usually from other outlets/pages on Twitter rather than from someone inside the club. So I would be extremely surprised if he knew anything more than the next man at this stage.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:47 am

colne-claret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:33 am
I’m honestly not bothered about missing out on Muleka. Can’t help but feel as though he was a risk. Could have obviously paid off but who knows. Would much rather see us go in for an established championship goal scorer.
Will we be able to get an established Championship goalscorer for what we were quoted to be paying for Muleka?
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Post by FeedTheArf » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:48 am

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:40 am
Derby might need to sell Knight to finance bringing in other players to build there depleted squad.

Aren't there strict FFP rules in League 1 that hold the bigger clubs back?
Would really like to get Knight in. The crucial difference between him and our other signings is Knight has a lot more experience in this league.
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Post by Nori1958 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:49 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:31 am
Seen a few accounts state that there's work permit problems. I did think that when we moved for him.

Let's hope with have another striker on the radar because we certainly need it.
If it was work permit problems, surely they would also exist for Bastian

I would guess its more to do with the players demands

He can earn more in Turkey, but I don't think they can match our transfer offer

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Post by FeedTheArf » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:50 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:47 am
Will we be able to get an established Championship goalscorer for what we were quoted to be paying for Muleka?
There’s a guy down at Wycombe that got 17 goals and 7 assists last year. Reckon he could do a job.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:51 am

FeedTheArf wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:50 am
There’s a guy down at Wycombe that got 17 goals and 7 assists last year. Reckon he could do a job.
🤮

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by ClaretMov » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:52 am

Regarding Muleka I think it's just a visa issue and he's back training with his team, once it's sorted it won't be a problem everything else including the first part of the medical is done, it's probably certain media putting 2 and 2 together and making 5 but time will tell, if not move on to another target Kompany will have plenty of back up

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