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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:41 pm

Reports on Twitter that Brentford could be interested in kouyate too

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:42 pm

Désireux de quitter le FC Metz, l’international malien serait sur les tablettes de deux clubs anglais ! Alors que le défenseur central semble prêt à aller au bras de fer avec la direction du FC Metz, un agent français a reçu un mandat club en provenance de 2 formations anglaises pour effectuer le transfert de Kiki Kouyaté. Selon nos informations, Brentford (Premier League) et Burnley (Championship) sont prêts à formuler une offre de 10 millions de livres, soit près de 11,8 millions d’euros, pour le défenseur malien et ont

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Post by Goody1975 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:50 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:17 pm
Churnilov will need to be registered by 12pm
Tomorrow won’t he to feature on Tuesday
I personally am not bothered if he's not signed in time to play on Tuesday, we already have enough players waiting their chance and we have been putting players into the matchday squad with literally one day on the training ground.

The league cup game should be the ideal time to integrate the new players and fringe players into things.

Many may disagree with me.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:08 pm

If Brentford are checking him out we are in a battle to sign him that we may find difficult

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Post by CaligulaisGOAT » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:23 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:41 pm
Reports on Twitter that Brentford could be interested in kouyate too
If you actually look at the original post it says its a rumour and ill see it to believe it that Brentford are interested no previous mention of them in the past AND they've signed Ben Mee to be injury cover for their current CB's so doesnt make much sense
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Post by bumba » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:23 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:19 am
Has scored 1 in 3 in his career so far, not too shabby
That's in shabby leagues, I hope he turns in to be a gem but people are building him up just cos he's an unknown foreigner. Let's wait and see

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:39 pm

Why would Brentford sign a LCB in Mee on a free and then pay £10m for another? Sounds like rubbish to me.

But if it’s not we stand no chance.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:40 pm

CaligulaisGOAT wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:23 pm
If you actually look at the original post it says its a rumour and ill see it to believe it that Brentford are interested no previous mention of them in the past AND they've signed Ben Mee to be injury cover for their current CB's so doesnt make much sense
Thanks I couldn’t get translate to work

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Post by mybloodisclaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:12 pm

Dovbyk would score plenty. Only based on what I have seen for Ukraine. When we click in the final third, a big strong mobile centre forward, will be better serviced than a Ferrari.
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Post by Quicknick » Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:22 am

bumba wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:23 pm
That's in shabby leagues, I hope he turns in to be a gem but people are building him up just cos he's an unknown foreigner. Let's wait and see
Since 2020: 20 in 41 league games; 4 in 11 games for Ukraine.
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Post by mybloodisclaret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:41 am

Without disrespecting our friends in Ukraine, they are not the most attacking of teams. They played extremely well recently against Scotland, but to be scoring 4 in 11 at top level football suggests he isn't a duff.

I think he would complete the team. Twine would feed him all sorts of presents from No. 10. or attacking MF.

We hear that Churnilov is about done, just need a commanding centre back and this is an excellent squad.
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Post by BigChaCha » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:18 am

bumba wrote:
That's in shabby leagues, I hope he turns in to be a gem but people are building him up just cos he's an unknown foreigner. Let's wait and see
So if England host the most non-shabby leagues in the world like the... 'best league in the world' in the Premiership and also 'the hardest league in the world' in the Championship, then that should mean that the host country should be filled with quality, right?...

How many trophies have England won since 1966 as opposed to all of these countries who host supposedly inferior leagues?...

I keep seeing in this forum, people referring to other leagues as being far poorer, even those that are hosted in countries that have won multiple Euro cups or multiple World cups lol...

The arrogance in this country is staggering!
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Post by ClaretAL » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:23 am

I am no so sur eon this big strong striker ethos. If you take in mind VK is setting us up in the Man City ethos of style of play, then Aguero, arguably MC best striker was not exactly massive, but more fast and clinical. However Halland now blows that theory out of the water lol :lol:

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:33 am

Rumours of delap on loan agsin, saying us and Southampton, think that’s just media throwing two clubs names out there

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:36 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:33 am
Rumours of delap on loan agsin, saying us and Southampton, think that’s just media throwing two clubs names out there
Yeah, pretty sure the Athletic article I read recently said we’d dropped all interest in Delap.

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Post by Hipper » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:50 am

BigChaCha wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:18 am
So if England host the most non-shabby leagues in the world like the... 'best league in the world' in the Premiership and also 'the hardest league in the world' in the Championship, then that should mean that the host country should be filled with quality, right?...

How many trophies have England won since 1966 as opposed to all of these countries who host supposedly inferior leagues?...

I keep seeing in this forum, people referring to other leagues as being far poorer, even those that are hosted in countries that have won multiple Euro cups or multiple World cups lol...

The arrogance in this country is staggering!
I don't know if you've noticed but many, if not most, teams have a lot of non-English players in their sides. Therefore the quality of the national side says nothing of the quality of their leagues..

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Post by Hipper » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:54 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:23 am
I am no so sur eon this big strong striker ethos. If you take in mind VK is setting us up in the Man City ethos of style of play, then Aguero, arguably MC best striker was not exactly massive, but more fast and clinical. However Halland now blows that theory out of the water lol :lol:
Haaland is a mobile striker that just happens to be big.

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Post by Top Claret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:56 am

Just read somewhere that we are chasing a fella from a league 2 French club.
It concerns me that we are recruiting players who have served there trade in European leagues no better than our league 1 and 2.
Hope Iam wrong that our new strategy of recruiting from low end European leagues could end in failure with us stuck with sub standard footballers sitting out 3-4 year contracts.

I really do have my reservations about the quality of some of our new signings on wether they will be consistent enough to put in a performance needed at this level over 46 games

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Post by bpgburn » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:21 am

BigChaCha wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:18 am

The arrogance in this country is staggering!
That, from anyone else, would not have been half as funny, nearly choked on me cornflakes...

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:24 am

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:56 am
I really do have my reservations about the quality of some of our new signings on wether they will be consistent enough to put in a performance needed at this level over 46 games
Who are you worried about?

From what I’ve seen Muric, Maatsen, Cullen, THB, Vitinho all look excellent. Bastien had his best game vs Watford, I thought, although saw some others less complimentary. Benson looked a world beater vs Luton, less impressive vs Watford but would think it harsh forming an opinion after two games.

The others haven’t played at all/enough to call it. Tella has played a fair amount in the Prem & Twine I imagine to be one of our best signings though, so can’t see them disappointing.

They won’t ALL make it though, that never happens and especially when recruiting so many in one window. Some will flourish, others will take time.

Re: Ligue 2, I assume that’s Metz, who were Ligue 1 before relegation. Teams are picking off their best players like we have had done to us.
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:33 am

2021: Why can't we be more like Brentford and sign players for low fees from Europe that people haven't heard of

2022: Why are we signing players for low fees from Europe that people haven't heard of
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:36 am

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:56 am
Just read somewhere that we are chasing a fella from a league 2 French club.
It concerns me that we are recruiting players who have served there trade in European leagues no better than our league 1 and 2.
Hope Iam wrong that our new strategy of recruiting from low end European leagues could end in failure with us stuck with sub standard footballers sitting out 3-4 year contracts.

I really do have my reservations about the quality of some of our new signings on wether they will be consistent enough to put in a performance needed at this level over 46 games
Kouyate is from french second tier but was linked with a 16mil move to Leicester last season when his team was in first division. full international but wants to move from french second division. Only like saying no clubs should of come in for pope Collins Tarky McNeil cornet when we went down

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Post by Pickles » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:41 am

The last ten years -
"We should sign players from Europe, it's an untapped market and much cheaper than buying English players."

This summer -
"No not THOSE players from Europe."
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Post by It Is What It Is » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:32 am

DELAP.
Man City today confirm Delap to go out on loan.
So..what are our chances??

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:38 am

Don’t understand the massive hype around Delap, yes he has potential but is he really ready to lead the line for a team shy of goals at 19 year old
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Post by RVclaret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:41 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:38 am
Don’t understand the massive hype around Delap, yes he has potential but is he really ready to lead the line for a team shy of goals at 19 year old
Southampton were willing to pay 16m+ for him to start for them in the Prem but City don’t want to sell. Suggests he could be good enough for us…
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:45 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:41 am
Southampton were willing to pay 16m+ for him to start for them in the Prem but City don’t want to sell. Suggests he could be good enough for us…
Because someone is willing to pay 16mil doesn’t mean he’s ready to lead the line. That value comes from the fact he’s at Man City and is English.

Big ask for a 19 year old with no loan experience and a few cup games to come in and lead the line when we have been crying out for proven striker. In my opinion

I would still back him if he signs

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:48 am

Darko Churlinov’s agent:

“Coach Vincent Kompany, who really convinced us 100 percent, played a big part in that.”

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:50 am

Think he would be very much a risk worth taking particularly when you look at the form and fitness record of Barnes & Rodriguez. He has the comfort of playing alongside 3 players he knows, and he is English. I am just getting a tad nervous on how many overseas players we have attracted, from literally going from nothing. Not sure if we are going through a bad run that this is a good thing.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:51 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:45 am
Because someone is willing to pay 16mil doesn’t mean he’s ready to lead the line. That value comes from the fact he’s at Man City and is English.

Big ask for a 19 year old with no loan experience and a few cup games to come in and lead the line when we have been crying out for proven striker. In my opinion

I would still back him if he signs
You might be right and this might be the reason we have cooled our interest. Though if he was partnered with one of Rodriguez or Barnes I think that wouldn’t be such an issue.

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Post by Top Claret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:52 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:24 am
Who are you worried about?

From what I’ve seen Muric, Maatsen, Cullen, THB, Vitinho all look excellent. Bastien had his best game vs Watford, I thought, although saw some others less complimentary. Benson looked a world beater vs Luton, less impressive vs Watford but would think it harsh forming an opinion after two games.





Benson looks far from a world beater he was deadfui at Watford with Bastien and Cullen not exactly ripping up trees.
Muric looks the part as does Vitinho

Our best players to date have been our loan players THB and Maatsen from out newbies, they both look quality

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:59 am

A winger, a striker and a CB pretty much completes out transfer window, and once they all settle in could turn out to be our best transfer window ever

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Post by dsr » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:09 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:44 am
Selling proven players for random ‘maybes’ is never a good idea imo.

There’s no point getting rid of Charlie what so ever
Money. That would be the point of getting rid of Taylor. If they can get a replacement whose wages are £1m or £2m p.a. lower, they will, and I reckon there's a fiar chance that centre halves as good as him can be had for that money.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:10 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:33 am
2021: Why can't we be more like Brentford and sign players for low fees from Europe that people haven't heard of

2022: Why are we signing players for low fees from Europe that people haven't heard of
As good as Brentford have been in the European market.

Weirdly the majority of there best players all came from transfers from English clubs:

Toney, Pinnock, Raya, Jansson, Watkins, Konsa, Dasilva, Ajer, Lewis Potter, Mee, Canos, Henry

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Post by CoolClaret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:18 am

dsr wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:09 am
Money. That would be the point of getting rid of Taylor. If they can get a replacement whose wages are £1m or £2m p.a. lower, they will, and I reckon there's a fiar chance that centre halves as good as him can be had for that money.
We’ve sold enough players for good money and slashed our wage bill more than enough.

Selling a good performing player in his prime, that can play multiple positions for a ‘maybe’ is daft.

Football isn’t moneyball, obviously if a ludicrous offer comes then fair enough but selling on the cheap just because would really irritate me (and I guess many others)
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Post by NewClaret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:19 am

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:52 am
Bastien - a lot said that but I thought he did well, not sure what made him awful. I actually thought Maatsen gave the ball away a lot in that game and had his worst game for us, can’t recall Bastien doing the same.

Benson - one great half, one poor game albeit no worse than Costelloe imo. Too early to tell on both fronts.

Churlinov will be a great addition judging by the comments from Shalke & Stuttgart fans.

Overall, a brilliant window. All of them need time to bed in & patience to adapt to the league. Not all will make it but VK’s record of developing and selling players is fantastic, so we have to trust in it.
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Post by tiger76 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:20 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:10 am
As good as Brentford have been in the European market.

Weirdly the majority of there best players all came from transfers from English clubs:

Toney, Pinnock, Raya, Jansson, Watkins, Konsa, Dasilva, Ajer, Lewis Potter, Mee, Canos, Henry
Ajer came from Celtic, but yes Brentford have plundered the English lower leagues well over the years. As well as picking up some great frees in Jansson and Mee.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:37 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:59 am
A winger, a striker and a CB pretty much completes out transfer window, and once they all settle in could turn out to be our best transfer window ever
Quality pr quantity?

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:42 am

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:20 am
Ajer came from Celtic, but yes Brentford have plundered the English lower leagues well over the years. As well as picking up some great frees in Jansson and Mee.
Yes I think it highlights the need to be strong in all markets.

Brentford have a strong recruitment team, as do Brighton.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:43 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:59 am
A winger, a striker and a CB pretty much completes out transfer window, and once they all settle in could turn out to be our best transfer window ever
I would disagree. I strongly suggest that we need a no 10 type. I like Brownhill playing an advanced role but he's not the no 10 we need to go past a player or slip someone in. Brownhill could still play his attacking role from a slightly deeper starting position instead of Cullen/Cork. We are still badly lacking creativity in the centre of the pitch.

I would still like us to pursue O'Hare from Coventry. He'll probably be fit in 3-4 weeks and he's exactly the type that's missing in our current team.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:46 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:32 am
DELAP.
Man City today confirm Delap to go out on loan.
So..what are our chances??
West Brom linked

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:48 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:19 am
Bastien - a lot said that but I thought he did well, not sure what made him awful. I actually thought Maatsen gave the ball away a lot in that game and had his worst game for us, can’t recall Bastien doing the same.

Benson - one great half, one poor game albeit no worse than Costelloe imo. Too early to tell on both fronts.

Churlinov will be a great addition judging by the comments from Shalke & Stuttgart fans.

Overall, a brilliant window. All of them need time to bed in & patience to adapt to the league. Not all will make it but VK’s record of developing and selling players is fantastic, so we have to trust in it.
I think it’s been a strong window. Ultimately the next few weeks will dictate if it’s been brilliant.

Number 10, Striker and CB all still needed.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by claretandy » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:57 am

Churlinov, kouyate and the Ukrainian striker and it's a 10/10 window.
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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Mala591 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:08 am

How many players (maximum) are allowed in a Championship first team squad?

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by jedi_master » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:20 am

claretandy wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:57 am
Churlinov, kouyate and the Ukrainian striker and it's a 10/10 window.
Let’s see how they (and all of the rest) perform in this league before we apply any opinion on this transfer window.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by RVclaret » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:37 am

https://twitter.com/fmishov/status/1559 ... 9i2NqFqS7Q

A very useful thread on Churlinov by a North Macedonian journalist for those wanting to learn more about him
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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Conroy92 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:37 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:18 am
We’ve sold enough players for good money and slashed our wage bill more than enough.

Selling a good performing player in his prime, that can play multiple positions for a ‘maybe’ is daft.

Football isn’t moneyball, obviously if a ludicrous offer comes then fair enough but selling on the cheap just because would really irritate me (and I guess many others)
Football isn't moneyball. I bet you most of major league baseball would have said the same 20 years ago.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by clarethomer » Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:04 pm

Can’t see anything that suggests we are in for Delap?

Have I missed this?

I thought Stoke was his likely destination?

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