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Post by LawsCanalJump » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:28 am

Georges Mikautadze i would presume from Metz
Hopefully a double deal with kouyate

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:29 am

claretandy wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:20 am
£5M bid in for the Georgian striker according to Nixon.
Would be happy with this

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:31 am

Burnley boss Vincent Kompany is making a £5 million bid for Georgian striker Georges Mikautadze.

Kompany has tabled the bid with French club Metz and hopes to have an agreement soon although they want double the sum.

The Clarets have also tried for Metz team mate Bouba Kouyate but he is being chased by clubs in Italy and may prefer Serie A.

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Post by agreenwood » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:31 am

Do we think Nixon works with an agent or two? Willie McKay?

A lot of his stories seem to be more about driving interest.

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Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:33 am

2 goals and 3 assists already in 4 games this season

Could be the missing piece we’ve been waiting for

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Post by taio » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:34 am

Positive in the sense that we may be in for a striker which is a must as far I'm concerned. Beyond that I haven't a clue about Georges Mikautadze and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:35 am

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:31 am
Do we think Nixon works with an agent or two? Willie McKay?

A lot of his stories seem to be more about driving interest.
That’s no doubt.

But it’s also fair to say I think 8 of our 12 signings have been called by him.

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Post by claretspice » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:39 am

From the clips he doesn’t look a striker who will solve our physicality problem but he does look a clever player.

If we're bringing that sort of striker in, we desperately need a physical centre half. I know he's subsequently got injured but leaving that aside the decision to terminate negotiations with Ballard and go for McNally looks a suspect one right now.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:39 am

Double deal being lined up for Mikautadze and Kouyate?

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:47 am

Just glad to see that we are apparently in for a striker

Unless we are going to use the U23s, we are effectively playing with one striker, and he's 33 and a bit too injury prone

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Post by taio » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:51 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:47 am
Just glad to see that we are apparently in for a striker

Unless we are going to use the U23s, we are effectively playing with one striker, and he's 33 and a bit too injury prone
Exactly this. Rodriguez will be a real asset if he can stay fit, but unfortunately we can no longer count on Barnes - he doesn't fit VK's system. It will be very disappointing if we don't sign a striker.

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Post by jedi_master » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:56 am

Don’t know a thing about him so I won’t entertain the question of whether he is good enough or not (nor can anyone on here realistically), but he is a striker and we desperately need one. It’s very reassuring to see that either Kompany was misleading the press or has finally cottoned on to the reality that our forward line is inadequate.
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Post by BillyIngham'sShorts » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:58 am

With mikautdatse…don’t get why Metz didn’t call him back after 1 year loan if he was any good.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:59 am

When Vinny said a month ago that he would know what the championship was all about in a few games time, and he would also know what his players are about, well, we see that now with knobs on. We’ve pretty much seen it all in 5 games.

So I expect movement in the next week or two. I’d be amazed if a striker and centre back didn’t arrive. May even be worth thinking about a top quality loan again because so far we have brilliant calibre from our loans.

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Post by agreenwood » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:22 am

jedi_master wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:56 am
Don’t know a thing about him so I won’t entertain the question of whether he is good enough or not (nor can anyone on here realistically), but he is a striker and we desperately need one. It’s very reassuring to see that either Kompany was misleading the press or has finally cottoned on to the reality that our forward line is inadequate.
Suspect it is just a case of backing a couple of players he wants to be part of the squad. It’s the one position he’s been asked about specifically, so rather than undermine Jay & Barnes he’s downplayed the need.
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Post by northeastclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:24 am

IMO after what we have seen in the first five games, whether we get a defender of the physicality of Kouyate and a proven striker will be the difference between promotion or not.

The team as it stands including when they all get used to playing together will not compensate for those two glaring weaknesses.
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Post by D8BFC » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:30 am

We also need a RB who can defend as well as attack in this formation.

VK doesn’t appear to fancy Lowton, and Connor Roberts positional sense when defending is absolutely shite!!!

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Post by northeastclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:39 am

D8BFC wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:30 am
We also need a RB who can defend as well as attack in this formation.

VK doesn’t appear to fancy Lowton, and Connor Roberts positional sense when defending is absolutely shite!!!
I agree, however I think VK will look to improve him at this stage. but it was Matseens poor positioning and defending which cost us the second goal.

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Post by northeastclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:42 am

Getting punished for our weaknesses before the end of the 🤞🏻transfer window could be a blessing in disguise. 🤞🏻
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Post by bumba » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:50 am

Not convinced the Georgian fella would be the link were missing. We need tried and tested to go alongside the inexperience we have brought in because a few of them look a million miles off being ready for the championship.
Richardson has to jump above Barnes in the pecking order now too, no way on earth would he not offer more being used as a sub.
An U23 goalkeeper could come on up top and offer more than Barnes right now

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:54 am

bumba wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:50 am
Not convinced the Georgian fella would be the link were missing. We need tried and tested to go alongside the inexperience we have brought in because a few of them look a million miles off being ready for the championship.
Richardson has to jump above Barnes in the pecking order now too, no way on earth would he not offer more being used as a sub.
An U23 goalkeeper could come on up top and offer more than Barnes right now
He certainly seems to have that nack of scoring easy goals. Something I think we have missed this season. I believe only 2 of our 6 goals this season have come from
Inside the box

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Post by Hipper » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:57 am

In the case of Connor Roberts, surely we aren't using him properly yet.

I thought he played more a wing back for Wales and Swansea. He was their player of the year in his last season there.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:00 am

Hipper wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:57 am
In the case of Connor Roberts, surely we aren't using him properly yet.

I thought he played more a wing back for Wales and Swansea. He was their player of the year in his last season there.
Personally thought he was excellent in the first half yesterday.

Isn’t helped by having Vitinho offering the square root of nothing in front of him.
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Post by Oldparkwood » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:17 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:00 am
Personally thought he was excellent in the first half yesterday.

Isn’t helped by having Vitinho offering the square root of nothing in front of him.
Funny I thought the complete opposite. Roberts IMO is absolute garbage who offers nothing going forward and nothing in a defensive role. Also gives the ball away far to easily
Sorry this is for another thread

Let’s keep it to topic!

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Post by Murger » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:18 am

I'm yet to see what Roberts offers.

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Post by ervi34 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:21 am

Hipper wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:57 am
In the case of Connor Roberts, surely we aren't using him properly yet.

I thought he played more a wing back for Wales and Swansea. He was their player of the year in his last season there.
He was so effective for Swansea (second for most chances created the season before we brought him) but when he plays for us he can't cross or beat his man.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:24 am

ervi34 wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:21 am
He was so effective for Swansea (second for most chances created the season before we brought him) but when he plays for us he can't cross or beat his man.
In the role he is playing now, I have no idea why Lowton isn’t starting. He’s a better defender and a better passer

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Post by Andy_G » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:29 am

taio wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:34 am
Positive in the sense that we may be in for a striker which is a must as far I'm concerned. Beyond that I haven't a clue about Georges Mikautadze and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.
Don't worry. I'm sure KRBFC will be along soon to tell us all about him...
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Post by jrgbfc » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:34 am

bumba wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:50 am
Not convinced the Georgian fella would be the link were missing. We need tried and tested to go alongside the inexperience we have brought in because a few of them look a million miles off being ready for the championship.
Richardson has to jump above Barnes in the pecking order now too, no way on earth would he not offer more being used as a sub.
An U23 goalkeeper could come on up top and offer more than Barnes right now
Agree with that, Costelloe and Richardson might be raw but at least they'd be capable of dragging the centre backs around a bit, which would create space for other players.

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:36 am

Andy_G wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:29 am
Don't worry. I'm sure KRBFC will be along soon to tell us all about him...
There was another poster on this thread who lives in Belgium, can’t remember the username, not Belgianclaret this time, who said he’s a very good player and just the type of striker we need. He said he’d watched him a fair bit and was impressed, can create chances from nothing, bit of pace and has that natural scoring ability.
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Post by Ric_C » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:44 am

Josh Bowler looked good yesterday. Would have been a terrific signing
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Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:48 am

Ric_C wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:44 am
Josh Bowler looked good yesterday. Would have been a terrific signing
Nixon says Forest and Fulham are in for him. This would explain why we have not been in for him.

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Post by Pickles » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:49 am

Hipper wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:57 am
In the case of Connor Roberts, surely we aren't using him properly yet.

I thought he played more a wing back for Wales and Swansea. He was their player of the year in his last season there.
He isn't playing as a wing back, not really a full back either. He's playing as a third centre back with Maatsen the one pushing up on the other side. Roberts sometimes even joins Cork and Cullen as a deep midfield three. The furthest he got forward yesterday wasn't from an overlapping position but from an underlap through the middle chasing a through ball.

I'm not saying this is good or bad. But a lot of the criticism, I feel, is because people are expecting things from him which are at odds to how we're set up.

The right side altogether is a weak part of the eleven so far though. Not convinced with Vitinho yet.
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Post by IanMcL » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:50 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:36 am
There was another poster on this thread who lives in Belgium, can’t remember the username, not Belgianclaret this time, who said he’s a very good player and just the type of striker we need. He said he’d watched him a fair bit and was impressed, can create chances from nothing, bit of pace and has that natural scoring ability.
I think it was his agent!

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:01 am

Pickles wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:49 am
He isn't playing as a wing back, not really a full back either. He's playing as a third centre back with Maatsen the one pushing up on the other side. Roberts sometimes even joins Cork and Cullen as a deep midfield three. The furthest he got forward yesterday wasn't from an overlapping position but from an underlap through the middle chasing a through ball.

I'm not saying this is good or bad. But a lot of the criticism, I feel, is because people are expecting things from him which are at odds to how we're set up.

The right side altogether is a weak part of the eleven so far though. Not convinced with Vitinho yet.
Vitinho is a perfect example of what happens when you play a wing back further forward. You can tell he is a wing back, and would be much better served attacking the space he currently starts in from deep (the wing back position). It’s the same reason why Taylor would not be good there, and Trippier going back further. It needs a propper inside forward/winger in that position who has the craft to beat a man from the more advanced position. Hopefully Darko is that man.
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Post by MDWat » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:01 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:00 am
Personally thought he was excellent in the first half yesterday.

Isn’t helped by having Vitinho offering the square root of nothing in front of him.
I thought Roberts was fine first half. He was crap in the second though.

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Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:03 am

Roberts made up a back 3 when we were attacking - not his natural game but he did ok.
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Post by Pickles » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:04 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:01 am
Vitinho is a perfect example of what happens when you play a wing back further forward. You can tell he is a wing back, and would be much better served attacking the space he currently starts in from deep (the wing back position). It’s the same reason why Taylor would not be good there, and Trippier going back further. It needs a propper inside forward/winger in that position who has the craft to beat a man from the more advanced position. Hopefully Darko is that man.
Agreed. You reminded me of all the talk of Trippier playing further forward during his time here. Just would have nullified most of what he was brilliant at. He was so effective because of the space in front of him.

Hopefully we start to improve in the wide areas. We certainly have options!
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Post by ArmchairDetective » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:11 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:01 am
Vitinho is a perfect example of what happens when you play a wing back further forward. You can tell he is a wing back, and would be much better served attacking the space he currently starts in from deep (the wing back position). It’s the same reason why Taylor would not be good there, and Trippier going back further. It needs a propper inside forward/winger in that position who has the craft to beat a man from the more advanced position. Hopefully Darko is that man.
This is an interesting observation and one I was trying to make sense of yesterday. We noticed that Roberts seems to drift inside a lot, almost like Walker for City sitting in a defensive central position. In attack this means that we have two attacking wing backs, one on either side (Maatsen and Vitinho), with Brownhill and Tella joining JRod centrally. In this sense we seem quite balanced in having two wing backs pushing high up. Would playing a more attack minded player in Vitinho's position leave us more exposed on the wing?

However, during other periods Roberts seemed to join Vitinho and we seemed a little stunted and overloaded with defensive players on that wing, as you suggested.

I'm aware this post isn't related to transfer rumours. But it does make you wonder where all of our new attacking signings fit in.

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Post by northeastclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:12 am

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:03 am
Roberts made up a back 3 when we were attacking - not his natural game but he did ok.
I assume Egan -Riley could be ideal in that position?

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Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:55 am

https://twitter.com/georgianfooty/statu ... _FdDm96ZYg

Goal that Mikautadze scored last week.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:16 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:01 am
Vitinho is a perfect example of what happens when you play a wing back further forward. You can tell he is a wing back, and would be much better served attacking the space he currently starts in from deep (the wing back position). It’s the same reason why Taylor would not be good there, and Trippier going back further. It needs a propper inside forward/winger in that position who has the craft to beat a man from the more advanced position. Hopefully Darko is that man.
I agree with your Vitinho comment and I feel the same about Mattsen and you can tell that Tella is better suited to the role of a winger as he’s faster and stronger with a bit more craft.
The problem can arise that when you play that player at full back you realise that they have defensive weaknesses too as with Mattsen yesterday.
So you can end up due to the pressure of results and letting goals in with a flat back four with 2 central defenders and proper full backs Roberts and Taylor for example. So your solider at the back but a bit less expansive going forward.
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Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:19 pm

Tella was excellent yesterday, he makes the Cornet sale look an excellent piece of business

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:20 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:55 am
https://twitter.com/georgianfooty/statu ... _FdDm96ZYg

Goal that Mikautadze scored last week.
What in the farmers league was that defence

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Post by Quicknick » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:26 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:20 pm
What in the farmers league was that defence
They didn't look any worse than a lot of Championship defences.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:28 pm

Just watched a video of Mikautadze and he looks good. Reminds me of Ings. Nixon has been linking us to him for a while - has done very well so far this summer.

Would people prefer him or the Ukrainian guy?

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:31 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:28 pm
Just watched a video of Mikautadze and he looks good. Reminds me of Ings. Nixon has been linking us to him for a while - has done very well so far this summer.

Would people prefer him or the Ukrainian guy?
Hasn’t the Ukrainian gone to besiktas?

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:33 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:28 pm
Just watched a video of Mikautadze and he looks good. Reminds me of Ings. Nixon has been linking us to him for a while - has done very well so far this summer.

Would people prefer him or the Ukrainian guy?
Give me both, try and flog Barnes somehow, and promote Richardson . 😂 one can only dream

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:35 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:26 pm
They didn't look any worse than a lot of Championship defences.
I’ve yet to see any championship team offer space and time like that.

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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:36 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:35 pm
I’ve yet to see any championship team offer space and time like that.
Ours yesterday in the second half :lol:
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