Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[Tricky Trevor]

Am I correct in thinking a week after the window closes the loan window re-opens in the Championship?
I’m fairly sure this has happened recently.

[Steddyman]

I fully appreciate that but does that mean we are not going to be scrambling around for 3-4 signings between now and deadline day?

Only if we lose additional players in the last few weeks of the window will that happen.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Looks as if we have many deals lined up. In case something falls through , a lot of names have surfaced/resurfaced today and we are clearly pushing something along to get an answer one way or another

[claretandy]

I thought it would be Cork/Cullen
And Bastien/Brownhill

But I think at times we will see three of them play from the start with a Benson/Twine behind two attacking players .

We may vary this quite often this season.
Does VK Fancy Woods or Helm? Not sure

Woods has left...

[Newcastleclaret93]

@record_portugal

“ Burnley has reached an agreement with Sporting for Jovane Cabral!

• It will be a transfer of about 4M + 1M in bonus.”

[claretspice]

I think we could do with another CM.

Cork, Cullen, Brownhill, Bastien. Westwood when back.

Of those available, Cork and Cullen are the two most suitable to the deeper role. I'd like us linked to someone else. It's a lot of games. We're an injury to Cullen or Cork away from being weaker.

I know that Westwood has had a bad injury, but he's also someone capable/suited to that deeper role - and it's where he's played most of his career, including for us. If he can regain his pre-injury form (which I appreciate is an "if") then I doubt many teams in this league will have a better back up to their first choice central midfield - and given Bastien and Brownhill are naturally orthodox central midfielders, I'd say that we're unusually well stocked in the centre of midfield. It's pace, guile and goals in the final third that we're rightly looking to add by the looks of it.

[jedi_master]

@record_portugal

“ Burnley has reached an agreement with Sporting for Jovane Cabral!

• It will be a transfer of about 4M + 1M in bonus.”

Hasn’t that been the case for ages but the player himself doesn’t want it?

[gandhisflipflop]

@record_portugal

“ Burnley has reached an agreement with Sporting for Jovane Cabral!

• It will be a transfer of about 4M + 1M in bonus.”

I thought the issue was with the player accepting our offer, not the club?

[Ric_C]

I agree, in our system, I'd say Bastien and Brownhill could play the deeper lying roles, hence why we are after wide players and number 10's

[Newcastleclaret93]

Hasn’t that been the case for ages but the player himself doesn’t want it?

No idea, first time I’ve seen it that we have agreed a fee from a reliable (ish) source.

You would suspect that getting to this point the wages must be an achievable aspect

[NewClaret]

Jovane at Burnley. Practically confirmed. Another issue (almost) resolved in Alcochete. He didn't want to stay at Sporting. Just as Tábata understands that he is not a bench player and here in this case he is not even aligned with the ideas of the technical team. A natural and stress-free exit.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pedro_m_paiv ... nk05srAAAA

Just seems to be a fan account from what I can tell.

[123EasyasBFC]

I saw him play on Saturday, and his legs were definitely still there!

Cork was very sloppy first half Imo and personally I don’t see cork having the legs to play every week

[123EasyasBFC]

And that’s no nothing against cork he’s a top player and been class for us I just think we need another holder to reduce his load all season

[DCWat]

Cork was very sloppy first half Imo and personally I don’t see cork having the legs to play every week

I didn’t think he was sloppy particularly in the first half. As a whole we were well below what we’d seen at Huddersfield, in the first half against Luton.

I certainly expect to see a lot more rotation than we have been used to but my view is that will be more down to how we play than anyone being past their prime.

[SalisburyClaret]

Think Brownhill could play in Cork’s role if required. Would free up a place up front for someone more suited to a forward role too

[jojomk1]

Think Brownhill could play in Cork’s role if required. Would free up a place up front for someone more suited to a forward role too

Which is where Twine may come onto the team as a roaming No 10

[eastcoastclaret]

Jovane at Burnley. Practically confirmed. Another issue (almost) resolved in Alcochete. He didn't want to stay at Sporting. Just as Tábata understands that he is not a bench player and here in this case he is not even aligned with the ideas of the technical team. A natural and stress-free exit.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pedro_m_paiv ... nk05srAAAA

Just seems to be a fan account from what I can tell.

Is he actually any good though?
The usual YouTube clips aren't particularly impressive.

[Greekclaret]

Is he actually any good though?
The usual YouTube clips aren't particularly impressive.

No idea, he’s pretty quick on Fifa if that’s anything to go off

[NewClaret]

Is he actually any good though?
The usual YouTube clips aren't particularly impressive.

No idea, I’m watching the same videos as you and drawing the same conclusions!

Based purely on those, I’d prefer Darko Churlinov, but he clearly has talent and played in the Europa and Champions League last year, so must have something about him.

Looks quick and tricky at least.

[Pickles]

I know that Westwood has had a bad injury, but he's also someone capable/suited to that deeper role - and it's where he's played most of his career, including for us. If he can regain his pre-injury form (which I appreciate is an "if") then I doubt many teams in this league will have a better back up to their first choice central midfield - and given Bastien and Brownhill are naturally orthodox central midfielders, I'd say that we're unusually well stocked in the centre of midfield. It's pace, guile and goals in the final third that we're rightly looking to add by the looks of it.

It's a specific, deeper role which Cork and Cullen, more the latter, are asked to perform. I certainly don't think Brownhill would be as adept at it, he's at his best when he has less time to think about the pass, late runs in to the box, and I imagine him to be one of the more attack focussed midfielders this season. Even if he played further back with one of Cork or Cullen, I don't think he is as naturally composed and clever in possession as either of those two.

Similar applies for Bastien, although we've seen less of him of course.

That leaves Cork, Cullen and an unfit Westwood - I agree that if he comes back fit he'll be a very good asset in this league.

We have more midfielders than we have had in years and that's brilliant. I just feel like having two (currently available) players for two extremely important positions is a tad thin.

Pace, guile and goals in the final third too? You betcha.

[Goody1975]

No idea, I’m watching the same videos as you and drawing the same conclusions!

Based purely on those, I’d prefer Darko Churlinov, but he clearly has talent and played in the Europa and Champions League last year, so must have something about him.

Looks quick and tricky at least.

My issue is he barely plays more than 60 minutes a match and that is over a long period of time, Sporting CP are at a better standard than the Championship but is he cut out for a 46 game season?

I don't know anything about him and I'm not making a judgement other than being curious as to why he is either subbed off early in the second half or starts on the bench.

[scouseclaret]

No idea, he’s pretty quick on Fifa if that’s anything to go off

Have to say I was more impressed with the clips I’ve seen of him than I was with Benson’s.

[claretspice]

It's a specific, deeper role which Cork and Cullen, more the latter, are asked to perform. I certainly don't think Brownhill would be as adept at it, he's at his best when he has less time to think about the pass, late runs in to the box, and I imagine him to be one of the more attack focussed midfielders this season. Even if he played further back with one of Cork or Cullen, I don't think he is as naturally composed and clever in possession as either of those two.

Similar applies for Bastien, although we've seen less of him of course.

That leaves Cork, Cullen and an unfit Westwood - I agree that if he comes back fit he'll be a very good asset in this league.

We have more midfielders than we have had in years and that's brilliant. I just feel like having two (currently available) players for two extremely important positions is a tad thin.

Pace, guile and goals in the final third too? You betcha.

I don't disagree with your analysis of our 5 midfielders and their strengths. It may well be that Brownhill in particular is less suited to a deep lying role than the others (Bastien I'll reserve judgment on). But he can play it, and as a box-to-box accompaniment to a sitting distributor, with craftier players like Twine playing in the "twin 10" roles, there's absolutely no reason why he can't be an outstanding player. That is of course a tweak to Kompany's system as he's used it to date. But firstly, it's quite possible he'll be more flexible in his formations than we expect (we've already seen a willingness to use an orthodox winger on occasions) and we may well want to play more creative players in those twin 10 roles to unlock stubborn defences anyway, in which case we'll need to accomodate Brownhill otherwise. And secondly, if we're saying your 4th and 5th choice central midfielders are excellent players at this level who might not fit the system perfectly, that's still not a bad state of affairs. I think we can be a bit greedy about wanting 4 perfect players for each position. A bit of compromise and pragmatism is needed. Central midfield is not, currently, a priority area for me.

[Cap]

Have to say I was more impressed with the clips I’ve seen of him than I was with Benson’s.

Seems to have more end product than Benson and that Konrad chap we've been linked with. Purely going off YouTube though.

[Pearcey]

Can anyone update me with links of the day please? I’m not having a dig at non transfer chat by the way.

[RVclaret]

Seems to have more end product than Benson and that Konrad chap we've been linked with. Purely going off YouTube though.

A goal every 180 minutes in the Portuguese league is pretty impressive. A goal or assist every 100 minutes is even more impressive.

[Greekclaret]

A goal every 180 minutes in the Portuguese league is pretty impressive. A goal or assist every 100 minutes is even more impressive.

I must admit Cabral is someone I have heard of. I didn’t think it was him when I saw the link, thought it was a different Cabral. Sporting play at a decent level, much better than the championship. If we get him he’ll probably be on par with Sarr of Watford at this level.

[Tricky Trevor]

My issue is he barely plays more than 60 minutes a match and that is over a long period of time, Sporting CP are at a better standard than the Championship but is he cut out for a 46 game season?

I don't know anything about him and I'm not making a judgement other than being curious as to why he is either subbed off early in the second half or starts on the bench.

Less of an issue with 5 subs to go at. An hour of Max was often enough to get him on the score sheet.

[Quicknick]

I must admit Cabral is someone I have heard of. I didn’t think it was him when I saw the link, thought it was a different Cabral. Sporting play at a decent level, much better than the championship. If we get him he’ll probably be on par with Sarr of Watford at this level.

The Portuguese league is a poor standard at the bottom end of the top flight. There are only four or five good sides.

[burnley007]

Do we really have a chance with Cabral? Looks a real player, especially at Championship level.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Do we really have a chance with Cabral? Looks a real player, especially at Championship level.

Looking likely at the moment

[123EasyasBFC]

Everton apparently want Coventry’s striker, wonder what weird reason cov fans will have as to why he wouldn’t to play for Everton and would rather say at Coventry

[eastcoastclaret]

Do we really have a chance with Cabral? Looks a real player, especially at Championship level.

Just not seeing what others are seeing on this one. Looks poor on YouTube and can't play a full match. Looks to me as though we are well down our list of players now and just trying to get the numbers up.

[NewClaret]

Everton apparently want Coventry’s striker, wonder what weird reason cov fans will have as to why he wouldn’t to play for Everton and would rather say at Coventry

Would’ve loved us to get him. Looks decent.

Would also love to know what’s happening with the legal action against them given they’ve spent £20m on Dwight, £33m today, Coady on some loan thing & now this chap!

[gtclaret]

Football Insider reporting that we have made a
£2.5m offer (rejected) for Isaak Davies Cardiff

[Newcastleclaret93]

Football Insider reporting that we have made a
£2.5m offer (rejected) for Isaak Davies Cardiff

Cardiff manager confirmed that we did bid and it was rejected

[ecc]

There's still time for a Lansbury link

And a Shotton.

[ecc]

I presume the bid for this lad at Cardiff is a longer-term option. He's clearly not what we need right now. Question is how much money VK has left to spend...

[DCWat]

I presume the bid for this lad at Cardiff is a longer-term option. He's clearly not what we need right now. Question is how much money VK has left to spend...

There’s presumably a reasonable amount, if the figures being reported for O’Hare were anywhere near realistic. These were pre Cornet’s departure too.

We’ve bought a lot of potential but not so much of the nailed on to hit the ground running types (Maatsen and perhaps Cullen aside). That’s not a criticism of the recruitment.

Is there a marquee signing on the cards or will it be more players without experience in England. Im hoping that we might make at least one more signing that’ll be a real statement in this division.

[Vegas Claret]

when you read the Cardiff forums it's a split between "we should keep him and give him a go" to "I'd sell him for that money he's not that good"

[Nori1958]

Just not seeing what others are seeing on this one. Looks poor on YouTube and can't play a full match. Looks to me as though we are well down our list of players now and just trying to get the numbers up.

The links to him started weeks ago, which would suggest he is pretty high on the list

[BigChaCha]

eastcoastclaret
Just not seeing what others are seeing on this one. Looks poor on YouTube and can't play a full match. Looks to me as though we are well down our list of players now and just trying to get the numbers up.

Not true at all... Cabral has been linked for ages and even if you missed the Twitter tittle-tattle, we don't conduct all of our transfer pursuits in the media!... He'd also be an absolute beast of a signing at this level in my opinion.

[agreenwood]

There’s someone in Portugal purporting to be a journalist suggesting Cabral done and has posted a picture of him undergoing some sort of medical.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

There’s someone in Portugal purporting to be a journalist suggesting Cabral done and has posted a picture of him undergoing some sort of medical.

Weirdly the wording on the wall behind him is Greek

[mybloodisclaret]

There’s someone in Portugal purporting to be a journalist suggesting Cabral done and has posted a picture of him undergoing some sort of medical.

You got a link?

[Greekclaret]

Weirdly the wording on the wall behind him is Greek

A lot of medical are being done abroad due to permit issues. However, not sure why it would be in Greece though. Olympiacos we’re in for him weren’t they?

[Zlatan]

You got a link?

https://twitter.com/jacintoleiteweb/sta ... oikHhUrcww

[Newcastleclaret93]

There’s someone in Portugal purporting to be a journalist suggesting Cabral done and has posted a picture of him undergoing some sort of medical.

To be fair it also says he’s coming to the premier league.

Very much looks like a another Twitter “Journo” using a pic from an old signing

[agreenwood]

Here…

[NewClaret]

when you read the Cardiff forums it's a split between "we should keep him and give him a go" to "I'd sell him for that money he's not that good"

That’s been my observation.

I’d be really worried about us spending £2.5m+ (given initial offer rejected) on a player with 2 in 28 last year. And I assume we don’t have a lot left to spend so that money must go on a more established player, imo.