ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:07 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:04 pm
Then you sell at the right time.
Which was when?

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Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:08 pm

Is there reason we accepted such a low fee anything to do with Pope’s contract situation? I thought he was contracted for another year with the option of a further year?

I think the fee is so low because we’re skint.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by ClaretLoup » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:09 pm

I remember watching him as a spindly youth warming up at Ram Meadow for Bury Town as understudy to the first team keeper. Unimaginable at the time that he would play for England and become one of Burnley’s greatest goalkeepers.

Uncannily he seems to be following me about the country wherever I go, he seems to follow.

Hope he does well on Tyneside.?

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by bfcjg » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:09 pm

He could do a lot better then Newcastle ,best keeper ever at Burnley, just wish him well.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:09 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:08 pm
Is there reason we accepted such a low fee anything to do with Pope’s contract situation? I thought he was contracted for another year with the option of a further year?

I think the fee is so low because we’re skint.
I dare say Pope will have made it clear he wanted to stay in the PL.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:11 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:09 pm
I dare say Pope will have made it clear he wanted to stay in the PL.
I dare say that’s the case but we still seem to have rolled over and accepted the first offer on the table.

A real air of desperation about this transfer.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by bobinho » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:14 pm

At least now when I’m whinging about Pickford or Ramsdale playing for England ahead of Nick, I can’t be accused of wearing my claret tinted specs.

What an outstanding professional he has been. I was worried when Tom suffered that injury…. I needn’t have been. Nick Pope has been a pleasure to watch. Genuinely a top top class keeper.

Apparently he’s gone to challenge Dubravka for the No1 shirt…. Errr…. No he hasn’t. He’s gone to wear it.

Good luck Nick.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:14 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:11 pm
I dare say that’s the case but we still seem to have rolled over and accepted the first offer on the table.

A real air of desperation about this transfer.
Who knows? Maybe Pope jumped at the chance of staying in the PL with a club who now have more money than sense.

The last thing we need is a player whose heart is no longer in it.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:17 pm

Wish Nick all the best.
But we've been well and truely mugged, at that paltry price.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by forzagranata » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:17 pm

No mystery why Pope would welcome the move and good luck to him but he was worth at least £20 million. Baffling deal from the club’s point of view.

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Post by Sheedyclaret » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:19 pm

Must be desperate for cash if we have flogged him for 10m abysmal figure if true

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by bobinho » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:19 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:49 pm
Because Pope was fairly desperate to leave and Pace is definitely desperate for cash.

It’s an absolute insult.
Ok how about this….

We have sold Wood and Pope to Newcastle for £37m. Just make it up in your head that we got £7m for Wood (and had their pants down at that) and £30m for Nick.

That’s better isn’t it?

You’re welcome.
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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by Murger » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:19 pm

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by ashtonlongsider » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:19 pm

Pope has to be one of our greatest keepers. He must rank alongside Blacklaw, Stevenson and Heaton. I'm a little bemused that he only had 12 month left on his contract with an option but not sure in whose favour. Is it the done thing, us letting players run down their contracts. Tarks, Mee and Pope left for little more than £10m doesn't seem like good business in my view. That said I wish NP all the best and thanks for the memories.

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Post by Ric_C » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:22 pm

Apparently Trippier tapped him up in England training. Cheers Trips ☹️

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by Billy Balfour » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:31 pm

It's like the end of a marriage. Why couldn't Pope have been a nasty personality, instead of coming across as a good lad, and a player who always gave 100%? I jest, of course. The realities of relegation. I'll be glad when we fully know who is out and who's coming in, and then we can kick on into the new season.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:33 pm

bobinho wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:19 pm
Ok how about this….

We have sold Wood and Pope to Newcastle for £37m. Just make it up in your head that we got £7m for Wood (and had their pants down at that) and £30m for Nick.

That’s better isn’t it?

You’re welcome.
Sorted! :D

Just to clarify - £25m for 30 year old Wood - exceptional business. £10m for 29 year old Pope - you ******* imbeciles.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by SalisburyClaret » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:00 pm

He’s easily worth 12 points a season to Newcastle. The value of which massively exceeds the pathetic fee we’ve received. Sad day. All the best Nick

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Post by Ilkley claret » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:00 pm

All the press are quite rightly saying as a club we must be desperate to sell him for such a small amount.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by Stalbansclaret » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:04 pm

It's rare that you actually enjoy watching a goalkeeper but I have come to love watching Nick Pope. There has been no finer site than watching him reach up to pluck an added-time corner from the air in order to preserve a one-goal lead. Just a fantastic goalkeeper and clearly top, top bloke as well. So sad to see him leave but he blatantly deserves to play at the highest level. Surely worth a lot more than 10m but we have to move on.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by superdimitri » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:06 pm

I'd say the fee is about right considering his age. Yes he could last 10 years but most keepers decline as they're older despite a few being good enough to keep performing at the top level.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:06 pm

Ilkley claret wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:00 pm
All the press are quite rightly saying as a club we must be desperate to sell him for such a small amount.
I thought the rumours of us wanting £40 million for him were far fetched but I'm still amazed at the fee.
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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:09 pm

Every 2 steps forward I take in looking forward to next season follows with 1 step back.

I knew he was going but started the day in good spirits when the fixtures come out, finishing the day a little gutted.

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Post by Paul Waine » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:17 pm
Transfer confirmed

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/pope-departs-the-turf
Spot on (no pun intended) with the tribute, CT.

Thanks, Nick Pope for your 6 seasons as a Burnley player and, I make it almost 4 as our No.1 goalkeeper.

Nick deserves to be playing in the Premier League. Nick deserves the "big money" that Newcastle can afford to pay him.

UTC

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by Paul Waine » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:17 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:09 pm
I remember watching him as a spindly youth warming up at Ram Meadow for Bury Town as understudy to the first team keeper. Unimaginable at the time that he would play for England and become one of Burnley’s greatest goalkeepers.

Uncannily he seems to be following me about the country wherever I go, he seems to follow.

Hope he does well on Tyneside.?
I think it's about time you moved back to north east Lancashire! ;)
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Post by dougcollins » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:21 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:06 pm
I'd say the fee is about right considering his age. Yes he could last 10 years but most keepers decline as they're older despite a few being good enough to keep performing at the top level.
Prime age for a keeper is 30.

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Re: ARTICLE: Pope departs the Turf

Post by texasbrit » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:22 pm

the dych debacle.continies to decimated this wonderful football Club

we held on too long to a manager that had lost his way, now we are paying the ultimate price

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Post by RickyBobby » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:24 pm

£12 million. Wow. People can try and defend Pace all they won’t but he clearly doesn’t have a clue.
The person responsible though is Garlick, he sold the club to someone with no money who has no clue about football or business, and who has put the club in a debt we will probably never get out of. Garlick was supposed to be a Burnley fan, but what fan would destroy their club just to line his own pockets. A truly awful man who should never ever be allowed near any football club. I know the usually suspects like CT will try and defend Garlick and anyone else's who is mates with him, but the fact is he has destroyed this club and if we don’t go into administration in the next 2 years I will be shocked. Selling 40 million pound players for 12 million and being over 100 million in debt is only going to end one way. I am sure Pace will run as soon as he can and this stinks of a fire sale to sell players for quick cash before he runs off.
Really sad day for this club. Who wants to buy a championship club with that debt and barley any players?
Shocking.
Bet Rovers fans are wetting themselves!
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Post by Milltown1882 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:28 pm

All other potential options that would go for Pope have filled their keeper slots, it was always going to be Newcastle. Think it should’ve been £15mil ish and said all along anyone talking 30+ were deluded. Keepers just don’t go for that money at 30 with one year left on their deal in the championship.
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Post by It Is What It Is » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:32 pm

1 year left on his contract..£8 million plus is a bloody good deal. He's not that young you know!!
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Post by FCBurnley » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:35 pm

Follow the money eh Nick. Don’t blame you one bit.

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Post by Mattster » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:40 pm

We got unlucky with circumstances/timing. Other interested clubs going for other options, one of them Henderson to Forest combined with the pressure on Pope of a World Cup before the next transfer window.

If there were other clubs in the race and if the World Cup was now as should have been then we'd have been able to hold out for more. As is £10m-£12m plus add ons is probably the best we could hope for. Wages saved will also be significant.

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Post by forzagranata » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:40 pm

"Bloody good deal?" He is a regular member of the England squad. England players don't usually get sold for £8-12 million - nor do regular members of any top tier national team.

What is even more concerning than the lost revenue is what message this sends to other Burnley players' agents and other clubs.
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Post by Billy Balfour » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:40 pm

We would have got SFA next season, and even if we were debt-free, this was never going to happen. Also, you'd struggle to keep a 30-year-old player, with one year left on his contract, happy when he could be playing in the EPL. The price is what it is, given there was no other top-flight club in for him.

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Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:45 pm

Disappointing transfer fee. Very poor from our side.

Best of luck to Nick Pope. An outstanding goalkeeper.

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Post by Tall Paul » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:49 pm

How do we know the fee if it's undisclosed?

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Post by fidelcastro » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:52 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:49 pm
How do we know the fee if it's undisclosed?
Someone saw it on the internet.

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Post by Milltown1882 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:58 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:40 pm
"Bloody good deal?" He is a regular member of the England squad. England players don't usually get sold for £8-12 million - nor do regular members of any top tier national team.

What is even more concerning than the lost revenue is what message this sends to other Burnley players' agents and other clubs.
Just to play devils advocate they signed Trippier for £12mil

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Post by clive40golf » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:58 pm

I’m sure, now he’s moved onto one of the Bigger/richer clubs that he will have gone up in the estimations of our inept England manager and he’ll get picked more frequently.

Good luck Nick and thanks for giving 100% every game.

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Post by ecc » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:58 pm

Don't want to talk about the fee.

I just want to say we've been damn lucky to have a great keeper and, above all, by all accounts a great lad at TM.

I can't blame Nick for wanting to go. It was inevitable.

But thank you for everything, Nick, and I hope you do get as many England caps as possible.

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Post by forzagranata » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:59 pm

They did. Which was also a brilliant piece of business from them. But I'd say both are outliers.

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Post by gukwonan » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:09 pm

Brilliant player and individual. Wish Pope all the best from Burnley.

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Post by Bazer1882 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:10 pm

For you older fans it's like losing Blacklaw Cummings and Miller😟

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Post by Cirrus_Minor » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:17 pm

I am old enough to have seen some very special Burnley goalkeepers but I do think that Nick Pope is probably the best. I must admit when I watched him at Accrington Stanley I thought he hopeless but his improvement has been very impressive, maybe due to the coaching of Billy Mercer but he his arguably now our best ever stopper.

Good luck to him and thanks for the outstanding displays.

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Post by Sozturf7 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:30 pm

As other older posters have stated, good as Colin Mcdonald and Adam Blacklaw says it all. As to the £10k remarks, if he only had one year left on his Turf Contract
then that didn't help us in my opinion.

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Post by Bazer1882 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:32 pm

Wasn't Tony Waiters an England keeper?

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Post by boatshed bill » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:36 pm

clive40golf wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:58 pm
I’m sure, now he’s moved onto one of the Bigger/richer clubs that he will have gone up in the estimations of our inept England manager and he’ll get picked more frequently.

I doubt it, TBH.

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Post by superdimitri » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:43 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:21 pm
Prime age for a keeper is 30.
This is what I thought too, but I think it's an out-of-date concept, at least in top leagues.
On average, keepers are on the decline by the time they are 30.

Of course, there are always exceptions, and as I said Pope could remain good until he's 40 if he's lucky and looks after himself but that would be unusual.

This is a good read:
https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2 ... nder-nubel

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Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:57 pm

Another one leaves the sinking ship

If only we had potted him last summer

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Post by pureclaret » Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:00 pm

Its a shame such a good player for us has left , but to join Newcastle is wrong I thought he was better than that. I still think the song Premier league curpt as fk is what Newcastle are about

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