Whilst I agree with some of your post. But genuine question and not meaning to cause insult, how long have you been supporting Burnley? It’s just that my memory is a little different to yours. When Eddie Howe left we were favourites for relegation (not his fault I know-we had to have a clear out) that season, and survived by a whisker . The following season we were favourites to go down. I remember us as a struggling championship side that had some success above what was expected of us. The rest of the time we were relegation candidates.
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I'm not downplaying Dyche's achievements, just arguing against those downplaying the tradition and history of our club. We weren't favourites for relegation when Howe left, we were like 5th favourites for relegation. Absolutely under Cotterill we struggled, patched up team and STILL we didn't drop. 17 games without a win, STILL didn't drop to tier 3.clive40golf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:07 pmWhilst I agree with some of your post. But genuine question and not meaning to cause insult, how long have you been supporting Burnley? It’s just that my memory is a little different to yours. When Eddie Howe left we were favourites for relegation (not his fault I know-we had to have a clear out) that season, and survived by a whisker . The following season we were favourites to go down. I remember us as a struggling championship side that had some success above what was expected of us. The rest of the time we were relegation candidates.
I'm proud of the club I support and it's history, I refuse to use the worst 7 years of the clubs existence to beat the club with and pretend we're some natural normal tier 4 nothing tinpot club. 4% of the clubs history was in tier 4, doesn't sound like our natural level to me.
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Yes to remember it - but not to know about it. Still history these days....fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:13 pmProbably because you have to be bloody old to remember that!
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KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:12 pmI'm not downplaying Dyche's achievements, just arguing against those downplaying the tradition and history of our club. We weren't favourites for relegation when Howe left, we were like 5th favourites for relegation. Absolutely under Cotterill we struggled, patched up team and STILL we didn't drop. 17 games without a win, STILL didn't drop to tier 3.
I'm proud of the club I support and it's history, I refuse to use the worst 7 years of the clubs existence to beat the club with and pretend we're some natural normal tier 4 nothing tinpot club. 4% of the clubs history was in tier 4, doesn't sound like our natural level to me.
I’m sure your proud, most of us are. Most of us remember the time when we weren’t the best team in Lancashire. I’m not having a dig at you when I ask how long you had supported the club, just trying to get a perspective on how you rate our success. From the 80’s till the 00’s we were lower division standard. Then we had some success, but sometimes flirted with relegation. Statistics will show, we finished 11th/15th or lower but they’re only statistical records. We sometimes were really lucky not to get relegated.
The reason so many of us are Dyche supporters is because he brought us a great many happy memories.
I know your not knocking Dyche at all . I’m sure should the worst happen, you’ll still be a loyal supporter.
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Thought many of us were Burnley supporters?
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Well hopefully, but sometimes you can’t tell
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My first season was the Ian Wright one so 99-2000. Although I don't have much recollection as a young child.clive40golf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:32 pmI’m sure your proud, most of us are. Most of us remember the time when we weren’t the best team in Lancashire. I’m not having a dig at you when I ask how long you had supported the club, just trying to get a perspective on how you rate our success. From the 80’s till the 00’s we were lower division standard. Then we had some success, but sometimes flirted with relegation. Statistics will show, we finished 11th/15th or lower but they’re only statistical records. We sometimes were really lucky not to get relegated.
The reason so many of us are Dyche supporters is because he brought us a great many happy memories.
I know your not knocking Dyche at all . I’m sure should the worst happen, you’ll still be a loyal supporter.
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Oh thanks Fidel now officially bloody old (bin supporting since 1960) not that makes me any different than any supporter so been thru all the divisions with the clarets, last season been a bit hard going so hoping for a more level playing field/bit of excitement next season.
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Rumour from a decent source. Rather than pay out Dyche in full, we are still paying him £110k a week. Is that visible in the accounts?
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You’ve been luckier than me or some others on this board. Your Darkest days have not been as Dark as ours, which is good. I don’t wish any of those Darker days on any Claret. Over the last 40yrs it’s nearly 50/50 as being upper 2 against lower 2, I’d much prefer it be different but it isn’t. The last 21years we’ve spent over a 1/3 in the premiership. Dyche has been responsible for most of that. We have punched above our weight and it’s been brilliant kicking the shins of some of the big teams. I hope we do again soon.
I think the point I’m trying to make is that Dyche has made this club successful, and doesn’t deserve some of the derogatory comments that have been thrown his way ( not so much by you by the way), but to state Birmingham,Rotherham ect some of us older ones find insulting to our achievements under him.
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I just go back to when Dyche's stock was at an all time high and nobody came for him. Rightly or wrongly, I think fans would rather see someone like Rooney walk through the door at their club over Dyche, its quite mad given both of their managerial achievements but the Pulis like tag really does stick.clive40golf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:08 pmYou’ve been luckier than me or some others on this board. Your Darkest days have not been as Dark as ours, which is good. I don’t wish any of those Darker days on any Claret. Over the last 40yrs it’s nearly 50/50 as being upper 2 against lower 2, I’d much prefer it be different but it isn’t. The last 21years we’ve spent over a 1/3 in the premiership. Dyche has been responsible for most of that. We have punched above our weight and it’s been brilliant kicking the shins of some of the big teams. I hope we do again soon.
I think the point I’m trying to make is that Dyche has made this club successful, and doesn’t deserve some of the derogatory comments that have been thrown his way ( not so much by you by the way), but to state Birmingham,Rotherham ect some of us older ones find insulting to our achievements under him.
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KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:14 pmI just go back to when Dyche's stock was at an all time high and nobody came for him. Rightly or wrongly, I think fans would rather see someone like Rooney walk through the door at their club over Dyche, its quite mad given both of their managerial achievements but the Pulis like tag really does stick.
Well I hope above hope that the same thing doesn’t happen to us that happened to Stoke when they got rid of him.
Tbh, I think it was time for Dyche to leave (at end of season) or back him heavily with players he wanted!
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I'm not saying it's the case here, but people's "decent source" often turns out to be complete codswallop.Marney&Mee wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:53 pmRumour from a decent source. Rather than pay out Dyche in full, we are still paying him £110k a week. Is that visible in the accounts?
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The time to back him with a competitive budget was every year he didn't have one, for 7 or 8 years.clive40golf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:23 pmWell I hope above hope that the same thing doesn’t happen to us that happened to Stoke when they got rid of him.
Tbh, I think it was time for Dyche to leave (at end of season) or back him heavily with players he wanted!
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If you'd watched some of his press conferences from last season you might think he'd have a go at stand-up
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AHEAD OF THE GAME: Sean Dyche's Crystal Palace switch hits £20m hitch https://mol.im/a/9630957 via https://dailym.ai/android
Yup, no one ever wanted Dyche when he was our manager, ever.
Not Sunderland or Palace....
Yup, no one ever wanted Dyche when he was our manager, ever.
Not Sunderland or Palace....
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Totally agree with that statement. Just meant new chairman different attitude. How wrong can you be?
Really believe if he did have backing during those years we’d be in a similar position to West Ham are now.
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I thought he was given a substantial budget in both 2014 and 2015.clive40golf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:48 pmTotally agree with that statement. Just meant new chairman different attitude. How wrong can you be?
Really believe if he did have backing during those years we’d be in a similar position to West Ham are now.
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The "tiniest" of football budgets can legitimately called substantial.
Sean didn't often have a budget that would be competitive compared to our divisional rivals.
Sean didn't often have a budget that would be competitive compared to our divisional rivals.
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If it's all the club can afford it would be seen, in those circumstances, as substantial at the very least, wouldn't it?
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Yes, certainly. But also depends which end of the telescope you look down: Same telescope.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:10 pmIf it's all the club can afford it would be seen, in those circumstances, as substantial at the very least, wouldn't it?
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If you believe that compensation fee, you will believe anything wrote in a newspaper. If another club wanted him, he'd have gone. Nobody came in for him.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:44 pmAHEAD OF THE GAME: Sean Dyche's Crystal Palace switch hits £20m hitch https://mol.im/a/9630957 via https://dailym.ai/android
Yup, no one ever wanted Dyche when he was our manager, ever.
Not Sunderland or Palace....
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To be fair to KRBFC he was very supportive of Dyche in the last season.
It was the past 7 years of success when he wanted him sacked.
It was the past 7 years of success when he wanted him sacked.
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Probably in a Paddy Power advert alongside his good mate Peter Crouch.
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The club has got another few weeks to the end of the latest accounting period, 31st July 2022. These accounts should be published by 30 April 2023. We will learn what they say in 10 months time. Maybe Sean Dyche will have another job before then.Marney&Mee wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:53 pmRumour from a decent source. Rather than pay out Dyche in full, we are still paying him £110k a week. Is that visible in the accounts?
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Not quite true, I was supportive for the last few years, he was working with his hands tied behind his back for 2 years. I thought the transfer policy under Dyche was pretty poor and short sighted however, large amounts of money frittered away on poor ageing players with no resale value and dwindling ability. It's no secret I never liked the football under Dyche and hated the horrible tag it stuck the club with, hopefully we can shake that with a more modern recruitment approach and better football moving forward.Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:30 pmTo be fair to KRBFC he was very supportive of Dyche in the last season.
It was the past 7 years of success when he wanted him sacked.
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Here I will take issue. I thought we played some of our best ever football in our last season in the Championship . For examplecBrentford away was just magical with Joey Barton producing a master class. Oh and a certain James Tarkowski refused to play for his club Brentford.arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:23 pmWe played good football in the first promotion season.
The Championship year, barring the odd great performance, we just out muscled everyone by being bigger and stronger right across the pitch. It wasn’t pretty to watch but it was very effective.
I think the later stages of this season showed that there was no need at all for us to be so negative in our play.
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That was a tremendous performance, no doubting that but you’d be hard pressed to find 2 or 3 memorable performances in that 46 game season.SouthLondonexile wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:05 pmHere I will take issue. I thought we played some of our best ever football in our last season in the Championship . For examplecBrentford away was just magical with Joey Barton producing a master class. Oh and a certain James Tarkowski refused to play for his club Brentford.
We went up as Champions but to suggest we played some of our best ever football is nonsense.
We were big, strong, fit, had Barton and basically bullied teams into submission. Hugely effective, memorable that we were champions and deserving of praise but it was far from beautiful
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That’s pretty common in football isn’t it? It’d certainly be in our interest to do so to help with cash flow.Marney&Mee wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:53 pmRumour from a decent source. Rather than pay out Dyche in full, we are still paying him £110k a week. Is that visible in the accounts?
That said, I wonder if we’re now having to pay him and his staff less of a wage if his contract had the standard relegation clause in?
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Happens at most clubs nowadays, and well into the pastMarney&Mee wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:53 pmRumour from a decent source. Rather than pay out Dyche in full, we are still paying him £110k a week. Is that visible in the accounts?
Usually the club will offer to keep paying their ex manager the same monthly wage until the guy gets another job and, even then, make up his wages to the full amount if he is subsequently being paid less
Way back, Peter Reid was sacked by City and eventually got the job at Sunderland. For the rest of his original contract term with City they made up his money and actually were still paying him more than Sunderland were !
Nice job if you can get it
Also happens with players as an incentive by a club to move them on elsewhere
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At best Palace didn’t want him enough to even contact the club.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:44 pmAHEAD OF THE GAME: Sean Dyche's Crystal Palace switch hits £20m hitch https://mol.im/a/9630957 via https://dailym.ai/android
Yup, no one ever wanted Dyche when he was our manager, ever.
Not Sunderland or Palace....
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Anyone seen him at Glastonbury....are Kasabian performing there,I think it's been mentioned him & Serge are bosom buddies....maybe he could take up a new carreer as a roadie or something the floodgates of football management havnt exactly opened for him have they,can he play drums?
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Huddersfield?
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He was at Elton John recently - not quite Kasabian or The Havienda!!Steve1956 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:22 amAnyone seen him at Glastonbury....are Kasabian performing there,I think it's been mentioned him & Serge are bosom buddies....maybe he could take up a new carreer as a roadie or something the floodgates of football management havnt exactly opened for him have they,can he play drums?
An ex colleague and fellow Claret had a quick chat with him.
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I bet Pace hopes he pops up somewhere fast it will save him a bob or two
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Blimey and on Sky…………
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Nottingham Forest around Christmas time when they get rid of Cooper.
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arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:21 pmThat was a tremendous performance, no doubting that but you’d be hard pressed to find 2 or 3 memorable performances in that 46 game season.
We went up as Champions but to suggest we played some of our best ever football is nonsense.
We were big, strong, fit, had Barton and basically bullied teams into submission. Hugely effective, memorable that we were champions and deserving of praise but it was far from beautiful
There’s me thinking blitzing the league and going 23 undefeated is good football
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Just chatting to my Nephew he reckons Southampton is Seans next role ... the Souhampton massive are predicticting
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Fantastic results but it wasn’t great football.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:59 pmThere’s me thinking blitzing the league and going 23 undefeated is good football
The first promotion was better football.