Len Shackleton, in his book "Clown Prince of Soccer".Herts Clarets wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:57 amWho was it that entitled a chapter in their autobiography "The Average Director's Knowledge of Football" and left a blank page?
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That isn’t entirely true. There were a number of transfers that could have gone through that Dyche vetoed because he didn’t want to take the risk. People seem to forget that Dyche had a carefully created and managed reputation.Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:28 amSolely in my opinion, he appeared to hold back on transfers to increase the clubs coffers.
This in turn, would make it more appealing to a buyer and enable him to ask for higher price.
Therefore, in my opinion, he openly allowed the demise of our club to get 30 (more) pieces of silver for himself on the way out.
What happened to club funds for me after that is beside the point.
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How many of you wanted Garlick out?
You got what you wanted.
You got what you wanted.
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I think you have missed the facts....RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:47 am“He took all the money” No. he sold his shares to a Mr Pace, who choose to pay for them with the clubs money.
Like - Mr G was fully aware how the club purchase was to be funded.
Mr G named the price, which included knowingly building in the extraction of the club's large surplus.
All the funding went or is owed to Mr G and any other shareholder, who sold.
Knowing how it will all be funded is sanctioning it for self gain from the sale for all those directors.
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Ever read "The Monkey's Paw"? The woman wanted £100 and she got £100, but the unexpected side effects mean that she hadn't got what she wanted at all.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:07 amHow many of you wanted Garlick out?
You got what you wanted.
You have a point against the people that said they wanted Garlick out and didn't mind if it cost the club over £100m to do it. But most people didn't realise just how much the club would have to pay him to make him go.
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Of course he was aware. But Mr Pace might’ve said it was all covered by investment that was incoming?IanMcL wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:08 amI think you have missed the facts....
Like - Mr G was fully aware how the club purchase was to be funded.
Mr G named the price, which included knowingly building in the extraction of the club's large surplus.
All the funding went or is owed to Mr G and any other shareholder, who sold.
Knowing how it will all be funded is sanctioning it for self gain from the sale for all those directors.
Named the price? A price that was accepted by the buyer. That’s how sales normally occur. None of this “make me an offer”
…. And all those supporters who also sold their shares.
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Again, just in my opinion, these players were the likes of Lennon (no disrespect intended) , journeymen that would prolong our stay in the prem, rather than purchasing youth that was resaleableQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:44 amYou think he held back on transfers, but there's proof out there he bought players over Dyche's head?
The only mistake Garlick made, was not potting Dyche as soon as they fell out so bad, they weren't on speaking terms.
In truth, he has bent over backwards to allow these chancers the best way of making it work for Burnley. Delayed staged payments- probably the only thing we're not paying high interest on.
I think my argument is backed by the fact we had the oldest squad in the league. No?
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No, we should do what we did - not invest in players in case we get relegated .....and then get relegated.Paul Waine wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:47 amLove the thought that the fans support earned all the money. Should we all have been putting more into the transfer budget every window so that we could outbid some of the billionaire backed clubs and pay a few more million to sign our target?
A cunning plan indeed....!
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Even if Garlick didn't need to know where the money was coming from, the PL did. They won't let you buy a club unless you can produce a very clear line of evidence to where the funds are. "We might get investment in future" wouldn't hack it.RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:18 amOf course he was aware. But Mr Pace might’ve said it was all covered by investment that was incoming?
Named the price? A price that was accepted by the buyer. That’s how sales normally occur. None of this “make me an offer”
…. And all those supporters who also sold their shares.
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That was Dyche and his good characters first policy.Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:39 amAgain, just in my opinion, these players were the likes of Lennon (no disrespect intended) , journeymen that would prolong our stay in the prem, rather than purchasing youth that was resaleable
I think my argument is backed by the fact we had the oldest squad in the league. No?
Players like Vydra and Drinkwater were purchased above Dyche's head. When fans demanded a forward with pace and a central midfielder. Dyche made sure their moves didn't work out by refusing to play them.
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There is only one person to blame with regards Drinkwater not playing, unless you point the finger at all his managers at Chelsea, Dyche and Dean Smith at Villa
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Pace to PL; well we haven’t really got any money. We plan to use what’s in the clubs bank account once it’s ours to buy the club.
PL; OK, carry on
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I suppose it is pointless to point out that Vydra has played a 83 games for the club in the PL and scored 8 goals (1 in 10).
Wood scored 49 in 149 (1 in 3), and Barnes 45 in 200 (1 in 4 ish).
Sadly, I think there are too many who don't accept how effective Barnes and Wood have been in the PL.
Wood scored 49 in 149 (1 in 3), and Barnes 45 in 200 (1 in 4 ish).
Sadly, I think there are too many who don't accept how effective Barnes and Wood have been in the PL.
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Maybe Burnley will have a ‘partnership agreement’ with St Joseph’s like those ‘exciting’ ones we announced last year with Ayr United, Llandudno, Portadown & Cobh Ramblers?
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Speculation! How do you know what funds were allocated for transfers? Who has disclosed that figure to you?Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:31 amAs well as watering down a transfer budget, to help keep the Dry Powder store even more valuable. . . When it was already tiny compared to just about everyone else.
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Isn’t that Dyche’s fault for only wanting players that already had a proven track record in the Prem?Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:39 am
I think my argument is backed by the fact we had the oldest squad in the league. No?
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I think they are both culpable. But since there had a disagreement between the two (according to the speculation) - its hard to know who was primarily to blame in my eyes.Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:44 amIsn’t that Dyche’s fault for only wanting players that already had a proven track record in the Prem?
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At least you can see that perhaps it might not have been all Garlick’s doing!Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:49 amI think they are both culpable. But since there had a disagreement between the two (according to the speculation) - its hard to know who was primarily to blame in my eyes.
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But he held the purse strings. Whilst it might be completely false, SD might have asked for better players, it could have been MG just saying ‘no’.
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Yes, or it could have been Dyche saying I don’t want him. I’m sure Dyche would have liked a number of players that weren’t realistic targets.Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 12:12 pmBut he held the purse strings. Whilst it might be completely false, SD might have asked for better players, it could have been MG just saying ‘no’.
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Also true Burnley Ace. But that must go back to ‘who’s the boss’
The weight of this has to lie with ‘the boss’
He’s in ultimate control of the club and at the very least we can begin to question his motives.
Its telling that we let the squad age and deteriorate. And he sold at the peak time.
The weight of this has to lie with ‘the boss’
He’s in ultimate control of the club and at the very least we can begin to question his motives.
Its telling that we let the squad age and deteriorate. And he sold at the peak time.
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It's our money.........he can spend it as he likes.
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Maybe Garlicks bank manager does .RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:14 amThere are two sides to this issue. I’m just giving a possible other side.
But like a lot of so called Burnley “fans” it’s only the narrative that suits your agenda and ignore the rest. Also no one knows the nitty gritty.
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Hope it all goes pear shaped
Really can’t stand the bloke
Really can’t stand the bloke