She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:21 am

Panthro wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:15 am
The toxicity of cannabis is extremely low, enough to be negligible in that it would be all but impossible to consume enough for it to cause physical harm.

I’ve never suggested that I don’t believe there are side effects to cannabis use either rooster. All I’ve been doing is trying to offer some balance, based on facts
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2400129 ... 20symptoms.

The evidence disagrees with you

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Panthro » Sat Jul 02, 2022 12:02 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:21 am
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2400129 ... 20symptoms.

The evidence disagrees with you
Hyperemesis syndrome is so rare that it is still understood and is also ‘cured’ by taking a hot bath. The linked document doesn’t give any weight to your claim.

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:11 pm

🤣

I think that's because it doesn't fit with your preconceived beliefs

Ignore the evidence if you want. All that does is make you wrong 🤷‍♂️

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Panthro » Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:40 pm

Wrong when I argue that it’s all but impossible to be physically harmed or poisoned by cannabis? The physical symptoms in the doc you linked are stated as being so rare that it’s not really been studied

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by thomaspaine » Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:41 pm

Cocaine use in this country is rife in all walks of life . At last seasons away game at Spurs the sniffer dogs took a great liking to me as I entered the ground and the Police and Chief steward pulled me over to one side for a search . They were convinced that I had secreted some substance on my person and took inordinate interest in a dog Poo bag ( empty ) in my jacket pocket . Obviously they found nothing and I have never been any where near cocaine … or so I initially thought . On the return coach journey home my son who was sitting in the window seat pointed to a small clear sealable packet ( empty ) wedged in the ventilation grill …. obviously from a previous journey ) .I’ve no doubt that some on previous away trips have blatantly used cocaine on the coach even in the presence of children .Something needs to be done to curtail this scourge .

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Panthro » Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:46 pm

In 2020, 30% of British people said they had tried cannabis (about 20 million people)

In the same year, cannabis was recorded as being a factor in 39 deaths

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Panthro » Sat Jul 02, 2022 1:50 pm

Interestingly, 4561 deaths from prescribed drugs in the same year

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:07 pm

Spot the stoner...
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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Panthro » Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:16 pm

Hi there, shame you haven’t brought your debating skills with you this time GIADJ

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:35 pm

Panthro wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:16 pm
Hi there, shame you haven’t brought your debating skills with you this time GIADJ
What's to debate?

You're absolutely adamant drug use isn't an issue and you're doing your best to support your case but we all know the reality.

That's exactly what stoners do, they're not interested in understanding that being a stoner can and does have an issue on mental health etc, along with those other well known side effects from smoking.

Cannabis does contribute to the deaths of people, both directly and indirectly.

You can argue against it all you like, I can see you're desperate to do so.

Cocaine can also cause numerous health issues and again users/addicts don't listen to the dangers.

Feel free to go off on another attempt to say otherwise though.

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Panthro » Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:50 pm

I have never said drug use isn’t an issue. It’s one of the biggest issues in society!

You’re reverting to using lazy generalisations about people who use cannabis, most likely based upon or at least influenced by 50 year old anti-drug propaganda.

The amount of deaths caused by cannabis is really low given how prevalent it’s use and the overall harm caused is lower than many other drugs. This isn’t opinion, it’s readily available statistical data

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:00 pm

Bore off.

I know lots of users, former users, dealers and former dealers.

I don't make lazy generalisations about it because I've seen what drugs do up close.

You keep stepping up and batting for them though, defending them etc, it's what users/addicts do.

I've nothing else to say to you on the subject.

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:14 pm

It’s ridiculous to suggest that cannabis use doesn’t have impacts on physical and mental health. That said, it’s less of a societal issue than alcohol use, yet that’s ingrained in our culture. I’d have no problem with cannabis being legalised.

Cocaine users are usually loud and aggressive, and the situation always seems on a knife edge when around them.

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Panthro » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:21 pm

Insults, baseless anecdotes and an intolerance of someone else’s perspective is all I’m getting from you

This attitude to any discussion about cannabis is partially responsible for the harmful, archaic and contradictory laws we persist with upholding in this country

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Re: She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie

Post by Panthro » Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:23 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:14 pm
It’s ridiculous to suggest that cannabis use doesn’t have impacts on physical and mental health. That said, it’s less of a societal issue than alcohol use, yet that’s ingrained in our culture. I’d have no problem with cannabis being legalised.

Cocaine users are usually loud and aggressive, and the situation always seems on a knife edge when around them.
I haven’t seen anyone claim that cannabis is harmless. In fact, I referenced earlier the fact that how harmful a drug is can be measured

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