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Richarlison

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:46 pm

Richarlison’s controversial move to Tottenham has been completed.

The Brazil international has agreed a five-year deal to join the London club, after some fraught and apparently acrimonious negotiations with Everton over a deal that could rise to £60m.

An announcement is expected later this afternoon to confirm the signing following the forward’s medical, as the two clubs came to a compromise agreement following days of talks. The deal has already been confirmed with the Premier League - who effectively set a deadline of June 30 for Everton to comply with their profit and sustainability regulations relating to permitted debt over a three year period.

The Goodison club needed at least £50m in what amounted to a process of balancing their books for the current financial year, which ends on Thursday. The sale of one of their best players was realistically the only way they could bring funds into the club so swiftly


That's probably the end of our complaint

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Re: Richarlison

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:50 pm

Everton have asked the Premier League to ban him for 6 games for throwing a flare at their fans
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Re: Richarlison

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:05 pm

Spurs are putting a decent side together on the quiet. If they can sign a quality centre half they might not be too far behind City and Liverpool.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by chekhov » Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:08 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:05 pm
Spurs are putting a decent side together on the quiet. If they can sign a quality centre half they might not be too far behind City and Liverpool.
Yes, but don’t we say this every year. Remember this is Spurs we’re talking about.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:11 pm

chekhov wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:08 pm
Yes, but don’t we say this every year. Remember this is Spurs we’re talking about.
I don't know, it's a long time since they've looked this strong and had a world class manager to go with it.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:15 pm

Sure Conte thinks he can control him and get the best out of him, but I have my doubts. Undoubtedly a quality footballer, but I’m far from sure he’s a team player, and certainly not a clubman.

This passion from the Pemier League teams to buy individual stars never seems to involved how it will effect team togetherness and spirit; until they look at the bigger picture, none will measure well against Liverpool or City.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Vino blanco » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:26 pm

Don't like him as a person, but it's a good signing for Spurs and very bad news for Everton
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Re: Richarlison

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:31 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:26 pm
Don't like him as a person, but it's a good signing for Spurs and very bad news for Everton
Tarks is going to be a busy boy next season

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Re: Richarlison

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:34 pm

They'll certainly win a few penalties with him and Kane

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:39 pm

Spurs could have had a free cb, the best in the Premier but he went to relegation candidates Everton instead.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Winstonswhite » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:40 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:05 pm
Spurs are putting a decent side together on the quiet. If they can sign a quality centre half they might not be too far behind City and Liverpool.
They’ve just spent 50 million on a player yet they’re doing it on the quiet?!!

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Re: Richarlison

Post by KRBFC » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:42 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:15 pm
Sure Conte thinks he can control him and get the best out of him, but I have my doubts. Undoubtedly a quality footballer, but I’m far from sure he’s a team player, and certainly not a clubman.

This passion from the Pemier League teams to buy individual stars never seems to involved how it will effect team togetherness and spirit; until they look at the bigger picture, none will measure well against Liverpool or City.
He was one of the only players fighting Everton had last season, proper dug them out of the mess. Not sure how he wasn't a team player or a club man.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by dougcollins » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:42 pm

Don't rate him. He'll go into a massive sulk and sit on the bench all season.
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Re: Richarlison

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:48 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:42 pm
He was one of the only players fighting Everton had last season, proper dug them out of the mess. Not sure how he wasn't a team player or a club man.
See Doug’s post immediately above, pretty much nails my view of the player.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:50 pm

Fair play to Everton selling their best player to get their house in order and ensure they are compliant with the rules. As per usual this messageboards pitchfork wielding conspiracy theorists have egg on their faces yet again

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Re: Richarlison

Post by KRBFC » Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:03 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:48 pm
See Doug’s post immediately above, pretty much nails my view of the player.
Gave his absolute everything and scored crucial goals to keep Everton in the PL, there's a reason the Everton fans like him because he worked his arse off for the team but he's not a team player or clubman?

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Re: Richarlison

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:03 pm
Gave his absolute everything and scored crucial goals to keep Everton in the PL, there's a reason the Everton fans like him because he worked his arse off for the team but he's not a team player or clubman?
Have several Toffee fans for mates and not one of them is saddened he’s gone, neither has there been any comments coming through my Twitter account, and I normally get something in general chatter about most moves. Yes he was like a one man steam roller towards the end of the season. But I think that was more to do with getting the move he wanted at the season’s end than any desperation to help Everton.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:40 pm

I only know 1 Everton fan and he's not happy, but he's an Everton fan so never is
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Re: Richarlison

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:45 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:40 pm
I only know 1 Everton fan and he's not happy, but he's an Everton fan so never is
Oh they are fare from happy. But despite staying up they have a lot to be unhappy about right now. There is a very real possibility that us losing out to them will only make next season even more embarrassing for the fans. In the middle of another possibly protracted takeover. I’d be interested to hear Kenwright’s views, but I don’t think he has any real power there now, anyway. They are right to be ‘not happy.’

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Re: Richarlison

Post by RMutt » Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:48 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:50 pm
Fair play to Everton selling their best player to get their house in order and ensure they are compliant with the rules. As per usual this messageboards pitchfork wielding conspiracy theorists have egg on their faces yet again
Or, perhaps Burnley and Leeds’ reminder to stick to the rules focussed minds at Everton.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:58 pm

RMutt wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:48 pm
Or, perhaps Burnley and Leeds’ reminder to stick to the rules focussed minds at Everton.
Don’t think it is that so much as getting the figures balancing, ready for inspection for the takeover.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Top Claret » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:30 pm

He more or less kept Everton in the premier League last season and is a major loss, they won't be able to replace him

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Re: Richarlison

Post by clive40golf » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:06 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:46 pm
Richarlison’s controversial move to Tottenham has been completed.

The Brazil international has agreed a five-year deal to join the London club, after some fraught and apparently acrimonious negotiations with Everton over a deal that could rise to £60m.

An announcement is expected later this afternoon to confirm the signing following the forward’s medical, as the two clubs came to a compromise agreement following days of talks. The deal has already been confirmed with the Premier League - who effectively set a deadline of June 30 for Everton to comply with their profit and sustainability regulations relating to permitted debt over a three year period.

The Goodison club needed at least £50m in what amounted to a process of balancing their books for the current financial year, which ends on Thursday. The sale of one of their best players was realistically the only way they could bring funds into the club so swiftly


That's probably the end of our complaint
Does that mean that now the financial year’s ended and they’ve balanced the books for that year, they can go on a spending spree of sorts, as long as they settle up by the end of the next financial year?

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Re: Richarlison

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:36 pm

Wasn’t the “complaint” from our perspective both that Richarlison should have been banned for the flare and missed games, and also Everton’s spending LAST season should have led to an embargo this season? A potential third thing could be arguably that series of Covid postponement injustices but that is unrelated. I may be wrong but that is what I thought.

So I don’t see how Everton selling him now affects our grievances.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Milltown1882 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:49 pm

On the finance side I don’t think that stadium is coming cheap..

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Re: Richarlison

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:03 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:40 pm
They’ve just spent 50 million on a player yet they’re doing it on the quiet?!!
Perisic and Bissouma are excellent signings as well yet barely any mention in the media?

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Re: Richarlison

Post by LaLigaClaret » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:47 pm

£50m plus add ons for a player who in my opinion keels over every time someone looks at him, likes to shoulder charge payers in the back when he thinks the officials aren't looking when tracking back from offside positions, kicks out at players when he can and doesn't often pass the ball to colleagues when he wants to do it all himself. I can't see Kane and Son seeing so much of the ball with him in the team. At least of the three will be gone at the end of the season when Spurs European dreams have disappeared and they don't finish in the top 4 this season. £50m + for me is wasted money.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:30 am

This is what Matt Slater had to say earlier today on the finances of Everton in the Athletic, all comes down to averaging losses over the 2019/20 and 2020/21 season and that ridiculous level of monies allocated to adverse transfer market conditions, this is a club that paid just £100k more than us in the TV rebate which came as a result of them appearing on TV quite a bit more than us - in 2019/20 (we finished above them and they earned more) - archive copy so no paywall

The Premier League, Everton’s losses and a row that won’t go away
https://archive.ph/oW0ED

and this is what The Esk had to say on their finances last month

https://theesk.org/2022/05/30/evertons- ... he-summer/

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Re: Richarlison

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:42 am

On the radio today, Simon Jordan was talking about how Everton will be making £40-50 million "profit" due to Rucharlison's book value now being £10 million and that helps Everton to balance the books.

Just shows how absurd football finances will appear to the average person.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by bfcmik » Fri Jul 01, 2022 1:52 am

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:47 pm
£50m plus add ons for a player who in my opinion keels over every time someone looks at him, likes to shoulder charge payers in the back when he thinks the officials aren't looking when tracking back from offside positions, kicks out at players when he can and doesn't often pass the ball to colleagues when he wants to do it all himself. I can't see Kane and Son seeing so much of the ball with him in the team. At least of the three will be gone at the end of the season when Spurs European dreams have disappeared and they don't finish in the top 4 this season. £50m + for me is wasted money.
I recall people saying the same about Grealish, but he has quickly adapted to not being the main (only) good player in the team's squad and I expect Richarlison will adapt pretty quickly too. He used feed Calvert-Lewin a lot when he was fit!

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Re: Richarlison

Post by the_fat_shearer » Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:41 am

I'm not sure if this is a good signing for Spurs.

He's a good player in general in terms of the Premier League and was very important to Everton but is he of the level that Spurs need - to propel them into League contenders?
I'm not sure but time will tell.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Caballo » Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:18 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:40 pm
I only know 1 Everton fan and he's not happy, but he's an Everton fan so never is
I work with loads and the vast majority would have driven him to spurs if asked, rotten apple as far as most of them are concerned.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Caballo » Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:58 am

Caballo wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:18 am
I work with loads and the vast majority would have driven him to spurs if asked, rotten apple as far as most of them are concerned.
Spoke to more now, it's more of a mixed bag, perhaps the lads on nights were just more miserable :lol: :lol:

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:01 am

Caballo wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:18 am
I work with loads and the vast majority would have driven him to spurs if asked, rotten apple as far as most of them are concerned.
They might not like him but if it wasn't for him and Pickford Everton would have been relegated.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Fretters » Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:20 pm

BBC reporting that we've now dropped legal action against Everton.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Guitargeorge » Fri Jul 01, 2022 1:36 pm

I think Lampard will be pleased to be rid of him. Yes, his goals helped keep them in the division, but I hear on the grapevine that he does not make for a happy dressing room.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Spike » Fri Jul 01, 2022 1:47 pm

nasty .horrible, diving cheat

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Post by Stayingup » Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:13 pm

Caballo wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:18 am
I work with loads and the vast majority would have driven him to spurs if asked, rotten apple as far as most of them are concerned.
Wonder if that's what Phil Bardsley thought when he nearly put into the Bob Lord stand a few seasons back.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:38 pm

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Re: Richarlison

Post by timshorts » Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:02 am

Spike wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 1:47 pm
nasty .horrible, diving cheat
They won't miss him as they still have last years "young cheat of the season" award winner in Gordon.

And we won't miss either of them because we are not playing Everton or spurs next year. So I don't really give one. Admittedly, the Richarlison v conte inevitable showdown is something to look forward to as a bystander.

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Re: Richarlison

Post by NRC » Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:26 am

Rumeur on Twitter that we’ve dropped it because a deep cut of the fee comes to us

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Les Lawrence » Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:04 pm

Banned for one game, Why not last season?

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Re: Richarlison

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:10 pm

Les Lawrence wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:04 pm
Banned for one game, Why not last season?
Cos time travel isn't yet possible

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