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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:11 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:08 pm
If Frankie had been fielding long off instead of Toxy we would have won :D
As it was Toxy did his best and got his fingers to it but it went for 6. Fine margins...as some other bloke used to say.

Fantastic bowling from the pro too with a 5fer...but Paddy at the other end was excellent too.
Most definitely a spinners wicket with their pro also taking a 5fer.

The non striker fell to his knees in despair when the last Rammy guy out chipped it back to Paddy. A fantastic game of cricket.
Yep! Just needed another batter to step up today! Or the pro…..

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Somethingfishy » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:17 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:11 pm
Yep! Just needed another batter to step up today! Or the pro…..
Pretty harsh picking on the pro when he has got a 5fer :D
22 with the bat...one of our highest scorers on the day.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:19 pm

Somethingfishy wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:17 pm
Pretty harsh picking on the pro when he has got a 5fer :D
22 with the bat...one of our highest scorers on the day.
;) Not picking on him at all, nice guy, but we are a side that needs runs

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Somethingfishy » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:30 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:19 pm
;) Not picking on him at all, nice guy, but we are a side that needs runs
I do think we are a main batter short. I said that at the start of the season when Jonny Whitehead left. Having said that we have racked up some decent totals this season. We are just a little bit inconsistent. They can't be accused of lack of spirit and fight. Twice we have posted 109 at home and defended it now.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Hopey » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:30 pm

Bowling second just works for us..

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:32 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:10 pm
I’m saying nothing 😂
I don't think I will from now on :D

It must be better getting 5 for 40 for House rather than 5 test wickets including the in form Bairstow and Stokes. :roll:

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Somethingfishy » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:36 pm

Hopey wrote:
Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:30 pm
Bowling second just works for us..
Very much so. I was worried with the low total but a part of me knows only too well what we are capable of. Seen them defend some low totals several times now.
We are excellent at squeezing a teams scoring rate bowling second when knowing what we are defending..whatever the total. Definitely better when batting first.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Bigbopper » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:44 pm

The House have a team who can all score runs but only Ben and Frankie seem to do it consistently. Every week I expect the pro to get a significant score, every week he proves me wrong. Let's hope next weekend he finally does it. UTH

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jul 04, 2022 8:48 am

Is there a long history of bitterness between Lowerhouse & Burnley ?

When I lived in the town and watched Burnley on the rare occasion I never heard of this once, granted it is over 20 year since I left but never heard of it from anyone I drink with still to this day who would go to watch Burnley. Some Lowerhouse fans seem to have huge chip on their shoulder when It comes to Burnley. Always seems a bit odd the someone who is either from or lives in Burnley takes great delight in seeing them lose.

Why does it only reach as far as cricket ? Very odd to dislike Burnley at cricket and revel in the side losing but then go cheering on the football team with the same name.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Andreshotboots » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:00 am

I think from an outsiders point of view its very much the "noisy neighbours", Man.United, City type of thing. For larger periods of history, until relatively recently Lowerhouse weren't a very successful team and often struggled at the bottom end of the league. The facilities were poor, and so were the pitches. They have done so much fabulous work in turning Lowerhouse into a thriving club, both on and off the pitch that perhaps the members at Burnley are a bit miffed.

Combine that with the trophies they've won, the posters on Social media who can't wait to wind Burnley members up, and the fact that they're pretty much in the same town, you've got your answer..

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:15 am

Maybe Burnley are a bit envious of the crowds Lowerhouse get as well, compared to the two men and a dog who generally watch Burnley these days.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Dark Cloud » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:54 pm

The crowds at Lowerhouse, especially for the 20/twenty matches are incredible and must be the envy of the league, not just Burnley (who definitely will be envious!)

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Hopey » Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:03 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:00 am
I think from an outsiders point of view its very much the "noisy neighbours", Man.United, City type of thing. For larger periods of history, until relatively recently Lowerhouse weren't a very successful team and often struggled at the bottom end of the league. The facilities were poor, and so were the pitches. They have done so much fabulous work in turning Lowerhouse into a thriving club, both on and off the pitch that perhaps the members at Burnley are a bit miffed.

Combine that with the trophies they've won, the posters on Social media who can't wait to wind Burnley members up, and the fact that they're pretty much in the same town, you've got your answer..
Lowerhouse didn't win anything for 140 years. There have been a number of teams (not necessarily Burnley) that have rubbed our noses in the dirt for decades. It's cyclical. Come another 50 years, we might be wooden spoon fodder again - many of our fans are enjoying our recent successful years.

I also think, that Lowerhouses' voices/opinions are heard more on social and here etc, as we have a bigger following, but that's only down to the work the volunteers have done at Lowerhouse in the last 30 years. They've built a framework to succeed. Burnley still have had a lot of success, but don't have the following..

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by MT03ALG » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:21 pm

Colne v Littleborough: Littleborough won on the last ball, I assume by scoring 4 runs (I was not there) to reach 189 for 7 against Colne's 186 for 6.
However Colne only awarded only 3 runs for 3 no balls in their innings when a no ball counts 2 runs.
With the extra 3 runs the game would have been tied. Will the result be changed ?

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:24 pm

No balls are one run in the LL.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by MT03ALG » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:42 pm

See Lancashire League Handbook Page 57, Rule 13.3

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:14 am

That must be a typo as there isn’t any scorecards that I could see where two runs have been awarded for a no ball.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:29 am

Take a look down Lowerhouse on a Wednesday early evening when the "All Stars"
project is in full swing for the kiddies and the various junior teams are being coached
and/or playing a match.

It's absolutely heaving, despite the pretty poor weather we've been experiencing.
It's a real credit to all the volunteers down there.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by MT03ALG » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:32 am

Interesting suggested typo as part of the Lancashire League Rules BUT refer to, as an example, Lowerhouse v Ramsbottom. 02 July 2022. Ramsbottom Innings: 8 extras (1 leg bye, 5 wides, 1 no ball = 8 extra runs)

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:33 am

Mmmmmm, the plot thickens.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:40 am

MT03ALG wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:32 am
Interesting suggested typo as part of the Lancashire League Rules BUT refer to, as an example, Lowerhouse v Ramsbottom. 02 July 2022. Ramsbottom Innings: 8 extras (1 leg bye, 5 wides, 1 no ball = 8 extra runs)
You’ve made that up. It’s 2 no balls.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:40 am

What happens if you run one off a no ball without the batter hitting it?

Does the umpire signal a no ball and a bye?

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Hopey » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:41 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:40 am
What happens if you run one off a no ball without the batter hitting it?

Does the umpire signal a no ball and a bye?
2 no balls. (No ball plus 1 run)

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by MT03ALG » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:44 am

Also, Norden v Walsden, 26 June 2022.
Walsden innings: 25 extras (9 leg byes, 14 wides, 1 no ball = 25 extra runs) = Match Tied !!
I am sure there would be many more examples if we were to check all the scorecards.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by MT03ALG » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:46 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:40 am
You’ve made that up. It’s 2 no balls.
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Refer to scorecard i.e. ONE no ball by Hawke = 2 extra runs

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:49 am

If you go back through the last few weeks scorecard it seems to an even number of runs for no balls which would suggest it is 2 runs.

They probably just ran one off it.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:54 am

Well Colne need to seek a replay then👍

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by MT03ALG » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:56 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:49 am
If you go back through the last few weeks scorecard it seems to an even number of runs for no balls which would suggest it is 2 runs.

They probably just ran one off it.
That may be the answer to the 3 no balls in the Colne Innings

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by The Enclosure » Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:07 am

"When a no-ball is bowled, runs are awarded to the batting team. In Test cricket, One Day International cricket and T20 International cricket, the award is one run; in some domestic competitions, particularly one-day cricket competitions, the award is two runs."

Did this not happen the other night in the Lancs v Birmingham Bears match.Lancs needed 6 off last 2 balls and Lancs hit a boundary off a no ball.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:28 am

I think only longsidelenny can clear this up.
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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Foulthrow » Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:46 pm

It should be automatically set to the league rules if the game has been scored via the play cricket app. From memory, I think it is two for a no ball.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:54 pm

I was only ever involved in one game that we narrowly lost. Bowled out needing 2 to win.
When we got back to our club someone added all the scores up in the book and it said we had actually won.

The officials at our club said the umpires and captains had signed off the result in the scorebook so you can't change it.

I thought it was only 2 for a no ball in 20/20 but I'm sure Hopey could message his long time scorer for certainty.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:45 pm

Play cricket actually shows

35.5 Ali to G Kumara: 2 nb
38.4 K Anjula to T Bradshaw: 2 runs,1 nb

Plot thickens.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Hopey » Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:46 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:54 pm
I was only ever involved in one game that we narrowly lost. Bowled out needing 2 to win.
When we got back to our club someone added all the scores up in the book and it said we had actually won.

The officials at our club said the umpires and captains had signed off the result in the scorebook so you can't change it.

I thought it was only 2 for a no ball in 20/20 but I'm sure Hopey could message his long time scorer for certainty.
Our Play-Cricket is set up in line with league rules. I'd suggest if someone has an issue they escalate it up the usual channels as per normal. :)

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:02 pm

Parry bowled the no ball for Lowerhouse on Saturday according to Play Cricket. Two runs given, same batter on strike next ball which indicates they didn’t run.
So looks like it is 2.

Can’t see how one run would have been given in the Colne game.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Hopey » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:04 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:02 pm
Parry bowled the no ball for Lowerhouse on Saturday according to Play Cricket. Two runs given, same batter on strike next ball which indicates they didn’t run.
So looks like it is 2.

Can’t see how one run would have been given in the Colne game.
The scorer has the ability to change it, depending on if they are scoring via: 1) Old fashioned pen and paper and keyed it in after the game. 2) PlayCricket scorer in app 3) PlayCricket Scorer Pro (which we use, with a laptop). It gives the no ball figure based on the pre defined rules set pre game.
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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:15 pm

On the original point in the thread, Colne “could” have potentially only been one run down so wouldn’t have made a difference to the result.

The solicitors can be stood down.
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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Burnley1989 » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:17 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:15 pm
On the original point in the thread, Colne “could” have potentially only been one run down so wouldn’t have made a difference to the result.

The solicitors can be stood down.
:lol:

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Hopey » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:18 pm

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:25 pm

I am wondering if one run can be given for something else though.

What happens if there are not enough fielders in the circle for example?
Is that given as a no ball?


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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Hopey » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:26 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:25 pm
I am wondering if one run can be given for something else?

What happens if there are not enough fielders in the circle for example?
Is that given as a no ball?
Nope, no ball rules are no ball rules. If it's 2, they get penalised 2.
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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Mondsley » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:43 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:15 pm
On the original point in the thread, Colne “could” have potentially only been one run down so wouldn’t have made a difference to the result.

The solicitors can be stood down.
Having exchanged messages with someone who was there, 2 no balls were bowled in the Colne innings. One wasn't scored from and one went for 2 runs off the bat. So, the scorecard should have shown 4 no balls I.e. 1 run extra. No change ro the result!

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by MT03ALG » Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:42 pm

Hopey wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:18 pm
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i.e. problem does not apply to Lowerhouse :lol: :lol:

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Hopey » Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:57 pm

i.e. problem does not apply to Lowerhouse :lol: :lol:
If the problem applied to Lowerhouse I certainly wouldn’t be wasting time posting about it on a Burnley FC messageboard. Nowt gonna be done posting it on here.

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:52 pm

Lowerhouse through to finals day, felt Todmorden were sloppy in the field but gave it a good reply and a good side.
The pro is a great player, Heap, Francois & Parry brilliant.
Young Tom Walker clipping the top of stump to take the main wicket of the pro cements the reason we all believe he will go on to be some cricketer at 21

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Hopey » Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:05 pm

Cracking result. Their pro was always going to make or break their reply. Tom Walker has been some signing. Ben is well on his way to be the first House player to 1000 Twenty20 runs. Roll on finals day.
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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:17 pm

Any no balls?

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Hopey » Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:19 pm

Need CT to close this thread with one more mention of bloody no balls.
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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:29 pm

Hopey wrote:
Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:19 pm
Need CT to close this thread with one more mention of bloody no balls.
Amen

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Re: Lancs League 2/7

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:58 pm

Dubious run out… not given…. But that’s cricket! And why I love amateur sport

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