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State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:05 pm

https://twitter.com/kanegalex13/status/ ... cr9OAZo05Q

The problems with not owning your own ground.

Shameful for early August.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:06 pm

It's dreadful but it is now owned by Wasps and they are just tenants

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Wembley09 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:10 pm

Yep Wasps own that stadium, it's there ground.

if Coventry don't like it, they can always ask to stay on Birmingham's couch again..

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Boroclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:20 pm

The Rugby 7's in the Commonwealth Games played there.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by IanMcL » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:21 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:05 pm
https://twitter.com/kanegalex13/status/ ... cr9OAZo05Q

The problems with not owning your own ground.

Shameful for early August.
Never seen an August pitch like that, anywhere!
Nematodes?

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:49 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:05 pm
https://twitter.com/kanegalex13/status/ ... cr9OAZo05Q

The problems with not owning your own ground.

Shameful for early August.
That pitch has had 67 games of Rugby 7's on it in three days, which only finished on Sunday evening !
As others have said, it's currently owned by Wasps RUFC, although they're going through a few financial problems at the moment ...

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:50 pm

No wonder O’Hare picked up an injury :D

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Hipper » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:55 pm

It might look poor but as long as it's flat it should be OK and with some good work - seeding, water, lights - it should be back to good condition.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Hipper » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:02 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:21 pm
Never seen an August pitch like that, anywhere!
Nematodes?
Some years ago a Football League groundsman (at Reading I think) used the wrong weedkiller a couple of weeks before the start of the season and killed the grass. I guess he used a total weedkiller, that kills everything, as opposed to a selective weedkiller, that kills non grass plants.

He was sacked which sounds the obvious decision. However, unless he'd made such a catastrophic mistake before, he would surely be the one person who would never repeat such an error.

And it happens still. Whilst trying to find a link to something on this I saw other occasions on a golf course and a school.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:24 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:21 pm
Never seen an August pitch like that, anywhere! Nematodes?
It was Murrayfield that had the big problem with Nematodes, around 2013.
Eventually, the SRU replaced the whole pitch with a hybrid one similar to Turf Moor's, a Desso Grassmaster

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by morpheus2 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:01 pm

It'll look a lot worse when that hosepipe ban comes into operation.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by HuncoatClaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:48 pm

Not a massive problem with today's technology. Overseed the centre circle and top dress, small amount of irrigation, put the lighting rig over it and hey presto, 100% coverage in 7-10 days.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by DCWat » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:01 pm

HuncoatClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:48 pm
Not a massive problem with today's technology. Overseed the centre circle and top dress, small amount of irrigation, put the lighting rig over it and hey presto, 100% coverage in 7-10 days.
Thanks Percy ;)

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Longsider » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:17 pm

HuncoatClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:48 pm
Not a massive problem with today's technology. Overseed the centre circle and top dress, small amount of irrigation, put the lighting rig over it and hey presto, 100% coverage in 7-10 days.
I bet you have an attic full of green herb,
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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by RVclaret » Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:18 pm

They are having a pitch inspection before tomorrows game to see if the game can go ahead.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Commy » Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:19 pm

They are going to do a pitch inspection due to players safety, I think so the match might be off. Some on Twitter saying they will get a points deduction even though it was out of their hands.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by dougcollins » Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:21 pm

Commy wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:19 pm
They are going to do a pitch inspection due to players safety, I think so the match might be off. Some on Twitter saying they will get a points deduction even though it was out of their hands.
Is it still a 3-0 defeat?

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by RVclaret » Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:22 pm

We should go and take Gyokeres off them, looks like they need some cash.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by agreenwood » Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:52 pm

Farcical.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:12 pm

Pitch inspection confirmed for 6 pm tomorrow ahead of the game v Rotherham on Sunday

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:40 pm

Their game has been postponed.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:42 pm

Wow. Points deduction?

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:55 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:42 pm
Wow. Points deduction?
Not really their fault

It’s not their ground and I’m assuming it was Wasps, and not CCFC decision to allow the Commonwealth Rugby 7 games to be played there

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Commy » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:55 pm

It isn't actually their fault so not sure they will be deducted points.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:59 pm

You could argue it is their fault, since they could easily have anticipated this and requested an Away fixture this weekend to follow on from the Commonwealth Games which is a prestigious one off event.
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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:31 pm

The commonwealth games could've been taken into consideration when arranging the fixtures in all fairness.

Coventry could've played away games for their first few ones...

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:01 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:31 pm
The commonwealth games could've been taken into consideration when arranging the fixtures in all fairness.

Coventry could've played away games for their first few ones...
Exactly my point, but did Coventry identify this issue in advance and request this?
Assuming they didn't then they are not blameless.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:31 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:01 pm
Exactly my point, but did Coventry identify this issue in advance and request this?
Assuming they didn't then they are not blameless.
We don't know if they did or didn't do we?

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:38 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:31 pm
The commonwealth games could've been taken into consideration when arranging the fixtures in all fairness.

Coventry could've played away games for their first few ones...
Blackpool and Liverpool the last two that I remember playing the first month of the season away because the ground just wasn’t ready. Surely there’s more. They should’ve just request their first few games away.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by dougcollins » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:42 pm

Didn't we beat Liverpool in one of those games?

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Claret Alfie » Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:04 pm

We should offer cash and our groundsman for Gyokeres.
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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by tiger76 » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:13 pm

Ridiculous that a Championship club can't stage their opening game

Coventry are due to host Bristol City in a Carabao Cup game on Wednesday, but that fixture must be in severe doubt.

I feel for the supporters who've made plans to travel to this game, who then see it called off at short notice.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by JohnMac » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:43 pm

I wonder if Coventry have any input into the maintenance of the pitch? Possibly not so it's a difficult situation.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:54 pm

Playing rugby on football pitches wrecks them
Reading suffered when London Irish churned up their pitch and Wembley suffers with the nonsense of playing American football on it

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Hipper » Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:59 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:43 pm
I wonder if Coventry have any input into the maintenance of the pitch? Possibly not so it's a difficult situation.
They don't.

If you read the BBC article I linked it says that the ground owners make contracts with users and their contract with Coventry didn't originally include the Rotherham match as the Commonwealth games organisers had bought exclusive use up to August 14th. Coventry asked if it could be fitted in the schedule and this is the consequence.

It seems odd that Coventry City did not have some contract with the stadium owners but that's apparently how it was. Whether the earlier start this season for the Qatar World Cup has anything to do with it is an interesting question.
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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by NRC » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:04 pm

I actually don’t see why they can’t or shouldn’t be docked points. The comment from Doddy, Coventry's CEO that playing fixtures away as “not an option” is at odds with the fact that the stadium is under tenancy until August 14th.

Someone is not being entirely truthful

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:25 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:54 pm
Playing rugby on football pitches wrecks them
Reading suffered when London Irish churned up their pitch and Wembley suffers with the nonsense of playing American football on it
Technically they are playing football on a rugby pitch

Wasps Rugby own the ground
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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Clarets4me » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:26 pm

I understand both Aston Villa and Birmingham City were initially approached to host the Rugby 7's, but declined ....

Surely if Coventry had said to the EFL, " Can we have our first 3 games away from home, because we're helping out the Commonwealth Games ? " they would have agreed to that request ? Or was it a case of Coventry needing a game to get some cash-flow running through the Club ?
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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Commy » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:38 pm

Not knowing anything about gardening, could they not have patched it with turf? I'm sure other clubs have done that in the past.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:32 pm

Commy wrote:
Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:38 pm
Not knowing anything about gardening, could they not have patched it with turf? I'm sure other clubs have done that in the past.
It's not their pitch, and also I don't think they have any money.
The games should have been switched.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:10 pm

Their home game against Bristol City will now be played at Burton

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Zlatan » Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:29 pm

Surely the place to play Rugby would be a rugby only ground - plenty within an hour of Brum

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:31 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:29 pm
Surely the place to play Rugby would be a rugby only ground - plenty within an hour of Brum
Surely the best place to play football would be a football only ground.
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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Fretters » Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:38 pm

Hipper wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:02 pm
Some years ago a Football League groundsman (at Reading I think) used the wrong weedkiller a couple of weeks before the start of the season and killed the grass. I guess he used a total weedkiller, that kills everything, as opposed to a selective weedkiller, that kills non grass plants.

He was sacked which sounds the obvious decision. However, unless he'd made such a catastrophic mistake before, he would surely be the one person who would never repeat such an error.

And it happens still. Whilst trying to find a link to something on this I saw other occasions on a golf course and a school.
You're right, he wouldn't repeat the error, but you need to set an example. You can't have other staff seeing that you're allowed to make a catastrophic error and get away with it or they'll drop their standards.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Mattster » Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:33 pm

They're playing their Carabao Cup game at Burton

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:43 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:10 pm
Their home game against Bristol City will now be played at Burton
Maybe they are looking to create a record by playing a home game on every ground. Two days notice to move a game, it’s just unacceptable.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:52 am

Their home game on Tuesday has now been postponed.

Surely can’t be far off points docking now.

On another note, I’ll repeat that we should go and chuck 10-15m on their table for Gyorekes. Forget Churlinov and others, this is the guy who we need and must surely be fed up with that situation.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Clarets4me » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:03 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:29 pm
Surely the place to play Rugby would be a rugby only ground - plenty within an hour of Brum
It is a Rugby Ground ! It is 100% owned by Wasps RFC, and has been since November 2014 ... The grounds biggest ever attendance of 32,019 was for the Wasps v Leicester Premiership game in 2015, it has never sold out for a Football game.

The ground was initially owned 50% by Coventry City Council & the Higgs Charitable Trust. The football Club were tenants from 2005 until 2013, when the Club and their owners ( SISU Capital ) were sued for non-payment of Rent. Coventry then effectively went into administration, whilst playing Sixfields, points deductions followed but eventually they went back to the stadium between 2014-19, before ground sharing at Birmingham City, prior to them agreeing a new deal to return for the start of last season.

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Re: State of Coventrys pitch

Post by Zlatan » Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:05 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Sat Aug 13, 2022 1:03 pm
It is a Rugby Ground ! It is 100% owned by Wasps RFC, and has been since November 2014 ... The grounds biggest ever attendance of 32,019 was for the Wasps v Leicester Premiership game in 2015, it has never sold out for a Football game.

The ground was initially owned 50% by Coventry City Council & the Higgs Charitable Trust. The football Club were tenants from 2005 until 2013, when the Club and their owners ( SISU Capital ) were sued for non-payment of Rent. Coventry then effectively went into administration, whilst playing Sixfields, points deductions followed but eventually they went back to the stadium between 2014-19, before ground sharing at Birmingham City, prior to them agreeing a new deal to return for the start of last season.
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