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McNeil

Post by ArthurShelby » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:01 pm

Stinking today in his Everton debut just been subbed after 60 mins.

He’s getting absolute dogs abuse on Twitter.

Iv never rated him he offers nothing, doesn’t score, doesn’t assist.

We have had Evertons pants down getting what we got for him :lol:

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Re: McNeil

Post by ArthurShelby » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:04 pm

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Re: McNeil

Post by WestMidsClaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:04 pm

Big wake up call hey 🤣

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Re: McNeil

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:05 pm

Don't they appreciate his tracking back ?
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Re: McNeil

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:06 pm

suffered the way he did playing for us, none of the ball so how does anyone expect him to influence it ?

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Re: McNeil

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:06 pm

Aye, nowt like letting a bloke settle in...
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Re: McNeil

Post by MACCA » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:06 pm

An average footballer that selects the wrong option the majority of the time isn't a good mixture
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Re: McNeil

Post by ArthurShelby » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:08 pm

There’s plenty of players like him in Leagues 1 & 2.

He’s so one footed and lightweight it’s laughable for a Premierleague player.

He offers NOTHING, and some people thought he was our best players :lol:

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Re: McNeil

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:08 pm

Poor game from him but he never found a rhythm popping up all over the field.
He’s a left winger the sooner he learns to live with that the better for him.
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Re: McNeil

Post by Pickles » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:09 pm

I find it difficult to predict how he'll do this season. He could be good there. Fringes of the England squad perhaps. But would not surprise me at all if he's on loan in the Championship come February.

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Re: McNeil

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:09 pm

ArthurShelby wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:08 pm
There’s plenty of players like him in Leagues 1 & 2.

He’s so one footed and lightweight it’s laughable for a Premierleague player.

He offers NOTHING, and some people thought he was our best players :lol:
Agree for the most part

He’s good at doing one thing and that’s whipping a ball in.

Nowhere near a PL player

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Re: McNeil

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:09 pm

New team.
New formation
No recognised striker on the pitch for them.
Some major doubts about managers abilities.

Was anyone really expecting him to pull up trees today, against Chelsea of all teams?
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Re: McNeil

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:10 pm

Pickles wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:09 pm
I find it difficult to predict how he'll do this season. He could be good there. Fringes of the England squad perhaps. But would not surprise me at all if he's on loan in the Championship come February.
Far too early to write off his Everton career. But if he ever pulls on an England shirt I’ll be flabbergasted.

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Re: McNeil

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:11 pm

At Burnley he was afforded time,patience and the benefit of te doubt as to a certain extent he came up through the ranks, as soon as you go to a club,especially for big money those comforts disappear, he will become their scapegoat and will be shipped out or be a squad player at best.

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Re: McNeil

Post by Pickles » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:11 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:10 pm
Far too early to write off his Everton career. But if he ever pulls on an England shirt I’ll be flabbergasted.
I don't think he will either.

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Re: McNeil

Post by Big Vinny K » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:12 pm

Based on the last 10 minutes McNeil played like Messi compared to Debbie Ali !!
WTF has happened to Debbie ?

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Re: McNeil

Post by Belial » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:16 pm

£20m for DM, replaced for £3m for Benson on t'other wing who already looks to have more skill and ability to take a man on. Good business.

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Re: McNeil

Post by ArthurShelby » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:18 pm

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Re: McNeil

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:20 pm

Don't it always seem to go,
that you don't know what you've got til it's gone,
they paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
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Re: McNeil

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:23 pm

I fear for McNeil, but I did before today.

I think there is very good reason’s McNeil Snr. Told him to stay put when he wanted to leave before. He needs confidence and that will do nothing to his fragile confidence. A lot of those Everton fans can be vile about their own at the best of times: a new big money signing that so often disappears on the pitch is not going to get much encouragement.

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Re: McNeil

Post by Simps » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:42 pm

Best one….

“Dwight McNeil looks and plays like a 40 year old alcoholic”

They really don’t like him :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:45 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:09 pm
New team.
New formation
No recognised striker on the pitch for them.
Some major doubts about managers abilities.

Was anyone really expecting him to pull up trees today, against Chelsea of all teams?
To be fair, it wasn't that long ago you were telling anyone who would listen that Mcneil was easily worth £45m-50m. :lol:

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Re: McNeil

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:45 pm

Simps wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:42 pm
Best one….

“Dwight McNeil looks and plays like a 40 year old alcoholic”

They really don’t like him :lol: :lol: :lol:
They don't think Gazza is back do they ?

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Re: McNeil

Post by JR1882 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:46 pm

I wish him nothing but the best for his career and hope he makes a great success of it, but we have got a fantastic deal there.

Everton are the bank that keeps on giving they will never learn.

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Re: McNeil

Post by NewClaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:51 pm

He was awful today, no doubt. Much like he played for us last year.

He’s only ever played well from left wing. If he doesn’t play there, I fear for him.

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Re: McNeil

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:55 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:45 pm
To be fair, it wasn't that long ago you were telling anyone who would listen that Mcneil was easily worth £45m-50m. :lol:
Based on the contract length at the time, his better form etc I was saying we should demand more for him.

You probably know that but you're trying to be a smart arse.

WW was one of your recommendations so pipe down :lol: :lol:
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Re: McNeil

Post by Stayingup » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:57 pm

MACCA wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:06 pm
An average footballer that selects the wrong option the majority of the time isn't a good mixture
Yes he does select the wrong option sometimes. Judgement. But he has a great left foot. Everton are not really good.

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Re: McNeil

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:59 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:46 pm
I wish him nothing but the best for his career and hope he makes a great success of it, but we have got a fantastic deal there.

Everton are the bank that keeps on giving they will never learn.
Early days it won’t be every week he faces the quality of Chelsea he scored 2 the other day, we got what we could for him & probably represents a fair price, he’ll have better games than the 1 today for sure.

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Re: McNeil

Post by Grandpa Claret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:01 pm

He is a quality player, I am sire, over the season he will prove this

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Re: McNeil

Post by Billy Balfour » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:03 pm

Yeah, he had a poor debut, but the overreaction and insults are well off the scale. Everton fans are the pits.
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Re: McNeil

Post by Neil » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:03 pm

He'd look a better player in a better team. Unfortunately he's in for a season like the last one with Everton. Not much possession and not much time on the ball when he does get it. Needs to at least look more interested if he wants to escape the wrath of the "Goodison faithful"

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Re: McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:04 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:55 pm
Based on the contract length at the time, his better form etc I was saying we should demand more for him.

You probably know that but you're trying to be a smart arse.

WW was one of your recommendations so pipe down :lol: :lol:
You were arguing against the experts valuation of £20m-25m for Mcneil, you said £45m-£50m.

The expert was correct again.

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Re: McNeil

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:08 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:04 pm
You were arguing against the experts valuation of £20m-25m for Mcneil, you said £45m-£50m.

The expert was correct again.
Expert :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
WW would suggest otherwise.

You're the one running around demanding the club spend big amounts on new individual players and then mocking people who suggest the club should demand top money for our own.
You're all over the place, so an expert you aren't.

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Re: McNeil

Post by hetheclaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:11 pm

Nothing like judging a new signing based on a weeks training with his new team and 60 mins on the pitch.
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Re: McNeil

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:14 pm

As I said numerous times last season. When did Dwight last actually hurt a team?
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Re: McNeil

Post by Mattster » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:18 pm

Pathetic that some Burnley fans are still going after McNeil. As if it wasn't enough to hound the confidence out of him when he was here, now they've got their wish and he's gone they're desperate for him to fail elsewhere. Pathetic
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Re: McNeil

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:21 pm

Mattster wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:18 pm
Pathetic that some Burnley fans are still going after McNeil. As if it wasn't enough to hound the confidence out of him when he was here, now they've got their wish and he's gone they're desperate for him to fail elsewhere. Pathetic
Great post, agree completely.

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Re: McNeil

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:21 pm

I can understand why he didn’t, but he should’ve had another season with us and regained his form and confidence.

Everton will ruin him.

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Re: McNeil

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:21 pm

Jumped ship too soon imo but it’s early days. Their fans won’t be patient.

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Re: McNeil

Post by Nori1958 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:24 pm

hetheclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:11 pm
Nothing like judging a new signing based on a weeks training with his new team and 60 mins on the pitch.
Some Burnley fans on here are doing the same with Benson, after less playing time...

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Re: McNeil

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:25 pm

Would have been outstanding in Chumps. Don’t forget Everton also got Tarks for free and he and the young fullback were outstanding today

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Re: McNeil

Post by hetheclaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:26 pm

Mattster wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:18 pm
Pathetic that some Burnley fans are still going after McNeil. As if it wasn't enough to hound the confidence out of him when he was here, now they've got their wish and he's gone they're desperate for him to fail elsewhere. Pathetic
It’s beyond belief

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Re: McNeil

Post by The Enclosure » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:32 pm

One of his biggest problem is that he looks totally disinterested and that will not make him very popular with the Everton fans

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Re: McNeil

Post by KefkaClaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:32 pm

I had concerns about him going to Everton. The fans should get behind him.

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Re: McNeil

Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:37 pm

I've always rated him but now I know Twitter user Eno Futboh wasn't impressed by his Everton debut, all bets are off
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Re: McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:40 pm

Mattster wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:18 pm
Pathetic that some Burnley fans are still going after McNeil. As if it wasn't enough to hound the confidence out of him when he was here, now they've got their wish and he's gone they're desperate for him to fail elsewhere. Pathetic
One of our best players of the last 50 years and still people go after him.

Unless we are promoted it’s unlikely we will see a player of his quality again any time soon
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Re: McNeil

Post by claret2018 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:45 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:25 pm
Would have been outstanding in Chumps. Don’t forget Everton also got Tarks for free and he and the young fullback were outstanding today
Maybe he would, maybe he’d have continued his poor form and we wouldn’t have been able to sell him.

We did right by cashing in whilst his stock was still relatively high.

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Re: McNeil

Post by Shaggy » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:49 pm

McNeil is a confidence player. He done well for us overall.

He’s just looks bereft of any confidence and the poor decisions are because he is trying to play safe all the time rather than attac. ( wonder where that came from )

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Re: McNeil

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:50 pm

I suppose all of debut players today were outstanding.

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Re: McNeil

Post by DCWat » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:51 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:21 pm
I can understand why he didn’t, but he should’ve had another season with us and regained his form and confidence.

Everton will ruin him.
I completely agree with this view. A season in the championship in a footballing side would probably have done him the world of good. There’s a decent player there, we all know that, but he does for whatever reason, seem to be a confidence player.

Going to a team with supporters who have an unreasonable opinion of their team and where it should be in the league could prove to be the wrong move.

Were their fans ever going to give him a fair crack of the whip?

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