We need to do to those tickets prices the same we have done to our recently sold players-drop the price !!

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:45 pm

I’m definitely not a high roller pal!

Definitely not intended as a dig at you Jamesy. How people choose to prioritise where they spend their money is none of my business. I just don't understand why the club aren't pushing a premium fan experience given the pressure on our finances right now.

Duffer_ wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:51 pm

Definitely not intended as a dig at you Jamesy. How people choose to prioritise where they spend their money is none of my business. I just don't understand why the club aren't pushing a premium fan experience given the pressure on our finances right now.

As CT alluded to in an earlier post, many regulars in the 100 club/ trophy room have voted with their feet and not renewed. The price was hiked up by around 20% I think. Some corporate members had signed up for two year packages previously at a fairly attractive price. When the new prices were announced a couple of months before the season ended and we were still a Premier League club, several people in the lounge said they wouldn’t be renewing because of the cost and that it didn’t represent good value for money.
I heard from someone in the lounge yesterday that the people on a table of eight close to us in previous seasons didn’t renew and now all meet at the Fence Gate for a pre match meal and all now sit in JHU normal seats.

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:02 pm

As CT alluded to in an earlier post, many regulars in the 100 club/ trophy room have voted with their feet and not renewed. The price was hiked up by around 20% I think. Some corporate members had signed up for two year packages previously at a fairly attractive price. When the new prices were announced a couple of months before the season ended and we were still a Premier League club, several people in the lounge said they wouldn’t be renewing because of the cost and that it didn’t represent good value for money.
I heard from someone in the lounge yesterday that the people on a table of eight close to us in previous seasons didn’t renew and now all meet at the Fence Gate for a pre match meal and all now sit in JHU normal seats.

If they can afford to eat in the Fence Gate they shouldn’t be put off by a price increase!!

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:15 pm

If they can afford to eat in the Fence Gate they shouldn’t be put off by a price increase!!

Fair point!

The biggest price increase came when 100 club room was made into the Chairman's Lounge and we all got moved to the Vice-President's Lounge.
Now the Trophy Room.
If my memory is correct a £450 per season increase.
Subsequent increases just compounded the pain.

I was seated directly behind this area, and the empty seats were noticeable compared to the rest of the ground.

Didn't look great when Vinny came over to receive his acclaim, but I guess this can happen with sponsors areas sometimes.

That area is the centre piece of Turf Moor.

It should be filled every match.

If they cannot sell the seats, the seat only upgrade for others, on the day, would be worthwhile.

matucana wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:43 am

Interesting that yesterday's programme had no club management or director's lists as shown in previous programmes. Also reference made to an AGM being held soon to clarify directorships of the club. Maybe Messrs MG and JB have had full settlement of all outstanding debts and are no longer on the board.

What exactly was said on the AGM front - The are a lot less shareholders now following the sale in March by the small shareholders, which would certainly make an AGM easier to manage, more difficult to attend and consequently more difficult to find out what was said/asked - though the Clarets trust still own their shares and you would expect them to report on proceedings

Which reminds me that the club still hasn't bothered to update it's Company details page to reflect the new shareholding, or for that matter that we have started a new season in a different league

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/company-details

I had assumed that the true status would have had to be reflected for the new season and the new league

as for MG - unless VSL have bought his remaining shares (not the ones he sold in December 2020) he has enough to remain on the board if he chooses - JB does not and has not since December 2020, VSL invited him to remain on the board of directors, that of course can change at VSL's whim. I have always had a suspicion that MSD wanted MG and JB on the board - given the buy-back agreements on preventing insolvency that was stated in the Offer Letter to the small shareholders. It is possible that MSD now feel they are on firmer ground given their reduced exposure after the summers loan capital reduction

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:59 pm

I was seated directly behind this area, and the empty seats were noticeable compared to the rest of the ground.

Didn't look great when Vinny came over to receive his acclaim, but I guess this can happen with sponsors areas sometimes.

Never used to happen and always happens now

Fill the seats campaign starts here!

Fill those seats!

Another game Pace didn’t attend. Needs to get an electronic diary to match his advertising boards.
The Centre Spot must be overpriced to not be used

Supply/demand is pretty basic. If the seats aren't selling, lower the price.

I never understood the price increase for walk ons last season when the ground wasn't selling out, posters on here compared prices to other PL clubs and it made no sense.

Bournemouth can charge more than us(when in the same league), they have 50% less capacity, a wealthier part of the country and have a population 6x bigger. Way less supply and bigger potential demand.

Football's a weird one, successful business people making decisions like inexperienced rookies.

Never understood if they can’t sell the seats just auction them off and proceeds go to the local food bank.

All seats which aren’t taken on a match to match basis should be raffled off & distributed through various local working mens clubs & charities.

Before they auction them or donate them they could try just putting them on sale!

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:47 pm

Before they auction them or donate them they could try just putting them on sale!

Think that’s already been happening, commercially when it comes to raising cash they won’t miss a trick or be slow out of the blocks, the interest simply isn’t there.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:51 pm

Think that’s already been happening, commercially when it comes to raising cash they won’t miss a trick or be slow out of the blocks, the interest simply isn’t there.

I tend to agree, in the current climate anyway

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 9:51 pm

Think that’s already been happening, commercially when it comes to raising cash they won’t miss a trick or be slow out of the blocks, the interest simply isn’t there.

No it isnt, I have had a number of discussions with people in the Commercial team and the red seats in the directors box aren’t for sale and are the Chairman’s to use at his discretion.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:03 pm

I tend to agree, in the current climate anyway

Maybe money a issue elsewhere, director box bigwigs & hospitality boxes want high end football the prices will be lowered to reflect but some will want it & fork out a premium to get it,

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:04 pm

No it isnt, I have had a number of discussions with people in the Commercial team and the red seats in the directors box aren’t for sale and are the Chairman’s to use at his discretion.

Ok then if you believe that with the debt & the fact we’ve been pretty much trying to offload anybody with 2 legs with value attached from the playing side that the club are turning down potential cash & keeping seats empty incase the top man & his cronies turn up, fair enough good evening.

The way English football clubs operate you would think ticket sales are a huge % of income, the English clubs in general desperate to milk the fans for every penny. £50 some seats to walk on last season, to watch a **** poor PL team. What was the reason for the increase? an extra few quid income? which probably didn't even happen as increase = less sales generally.

Trophy Room: advertised as 1 course carvery with half time cakes and a buffet at full time
Yesterday it was soup or salad starter, carvery or cheese pie, muffin at half time, cheese and biscuits at full time.
Seasonal Blue Seat: £2150 +VAT = Director's Box padded blue seat (front rows)
Seasonal Red Seat: £1950 + VAT = choice of seats behind the home dug out in the 100 club.
I was in a padded blue seat directly behind the away dug out, very comfortable seats but with little leg room.
MG and JB both paid a visit to the Trophy Room, not sure if they were based in the new Chairman's Lounge or in the old Chairman's Lounge, which is now used for ex-directors.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:58 pm

Supply/demand is pretty basic. If the seats aren't selling, lower the price.

I never understood the price increase for walk ons last season when the ground wasn't selling out, posters on here compared prices to other PL clubs and it made no sense.

Bournemouth can charge more than us(when in the same league), they have 50% less capacity, a wealthier part of the country and have a population 6x bigger. Way less supply and bigger potential demand.

Football's a weird one, successful business people making decisions like inexperienced rookies.

If you have a hardcore of fans paying a certain price, they are the people you look after. If you start lowering the price for your more casual supporters you then devalue your product and then end up losing money in the long term. Looking at it from a business perspective (which I don’t like doing with football) it makes perfect sense.

I sat in the 100 club for around 4 seasons in the late 80s and introduced a mate who has been a member ever since until this season, he now sits in the ordinary seats in the BL

Might be wrong but I seem to remember those Bob Lord seats looking more empty around the time that the refurb was done in the Longside suite. Been the same since. Have those people just moved?

Seems if the new owners can't make money out of these seats they would rather have them empty than give them away

Easier to spot little Alan whenever he attends

Yet another PR gaff from them and just makes the club look poorly supported from match day cameras

Also gives the resident balloons something else to whinge at the owners for.

League of gentlemen

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:16 pm

Ok then if you believe that with the debt & the fact we’ve been pretty much trying to offload anybody with 2 legs with value attached from the playing side that the club are turning down potential cash & keeping seats empty incase the top man & his cronies turn up, fair enough good evening.

I don’t believe it I know it because I have spoken to the club about. Rather than guessing why don’t you speak to the Hospitality team and ask if you can buy a season ticket for one of the red seats in the directors box.

Stop being rude and argumentative about a point you are just guessing about, phone then this morning and you can apologise later today b

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:57 am

Seems if the new owners can't make money out of these seats they would rather have them empty than give them away

Easier to spot little Alan whenever he attends

Yet another PR gaff from them and just makes the club look poorly supported from match day cameras

Failing to give the most expensive seats in the ground away for free is a PR gaff (sic)?

I think I've heard it all now.

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:26 am

I don’t believe it I know it because I have spoken to the club about. Rather than guessing why don’t you speak to the Hospitality team and ask if you can buy a season ticket for one of the red seats in the directors box.

Stop being rude and argumentative about a point you are just guessing about, phone then this morning and you can apologise later today b

I agree with you that the club who are absolutely broke are turning down potential cash.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:28 am

He won't go near the place he gets angry and the thought of the players taking a knee for 3 seconds so stops going on.

Can't think of any reason why an anti racism message gets him so angry. not one reason .....

Time & a place & I don’t think this is it, we are supposed to be discussing why the director box is empty.

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:29 am

Failing to give the most expensive seats in the ground away for free is a PR gaff (sic)?

I think I've heard it all now.

Sorry - you are correct

Small point though

Those most expensive seats are empty - wonder why ?

MT03ALG wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:49 pm

Trophy Room: advertised as 1 course carvery with half time cakes and a buffet at full time
Yesterday it was soup or salad starter, carvery or cheese pie, muffin at half time, cheese and biscuits at full time.
Seasonal Blue Seat: £2150 +VAT = Director's Box padded blue seat (front rows)
Seasonal Red Seat: £1950 + VAT = choice of seats behind the home dug out in the 100 club.
I was in a padded blue seat directly behind the away dug out, very comfortable seats but with little leg room.
MG and JB both paid a visit to the Trophy Room, not sure if they were based in the new Chairman's Lounge or in the old Chairman's Lounge, which is now used for ex-directors.

It was a nice cheeseboard at full time but it certainly wasn’t a buffet as we had in previous seasons. I think they need to revise this quickly and put on sandwiches also.
We sit in the red seats close to the exit to enable a quick getaway to the lounge at half time and have done so for fifteen years. We did sit in the directors box seats years ago when the directors box used to be virtually full, however it took a while to get back to the lounge as we had to wait for the directors and guests in the top rows to get out of their seats first.

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:13 am

Sorry - you are correct

Small point though

Those most expensive seats are empty - wonder why ?

Because people don't want to pay the premium price to watch Championship football. Fairly obvious really.

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:19 am

It was a nice cheeseboard at full time but it certainly wasn’t a buffet as we had in previous seasons. I think they need to revise this quickly and put on sandwiches also.
We sit in the red seats close to the exit to enable a quick getaway to the lounge at half time and have done so for fifteen years. We did sit in the directors box seats years ago when the directors box used to be virtually full, however it took a while to get back to the lounge as we had to wait for the directors and guests in the top rows to get out of their seats first.

Its sounds no different than the last time I was a member of the 100 club 33 years ago.
I remember the food being disgusting and a fight for the bar, sat in a pokey little lounge, feeling like you were anywhere but a football match

I also served a 15 year stretch in the James Hargreaves hospitality were the food was hit and miss but the surroundings far more pleasant

Done hospitality to death and I wouldn't be paid to go back. Got fed up of the punters who used to frequent the box who were in the main more interested in getting drunk or ostentatious snobs who had little interest in football

I sit in the BL now surrounded by true fans who come to watch the match and talk football

Top Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:20 am

Its sounds no different than the last time I was a member of the 100 club 33 years ago.
I remember the food being disgusting and a fight for the bar, sat in a pokey little lounge, feeling like you were anywhere but a football match

I also served a 15 year stretch in the James Hargreaves hospitality were the food was hit and miss but the surroundings far more pleasant

Done hospitality to death and I wouldn't be paid to go back. Got fed up of the punters who used to frequent the box who were in the main more interested in getting drunk or ostentatious snobs who had little interest in football

I sit in the BL now surrounded by true fans who come to watch the match and talk football

Bit insulting that is. That’s what we are, true fans who travel away also. And we do watch the match and talk football. We just sit in the lounge that’s all.
I think the punters you are referring to are the one match guests of the 1882 club who many of them were more interested in getting boozed up and annoyingly wanting to leave their seats 10 minutes before half time in order to get more alcohol down their necks.
At the end of the day this created revenue for our club. However, at present it looks like the club are struggling to get people to stump up the cash for these one match packages, because of their pricing structure, hence all of the empty seats.
You watch in November though when we play Rovers, all of these seats will be filled with many people like you refer to above, because the club will have no problem selling hospitality packages for this fixture.

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:43 am

Bit insulting that is. That’s what we are, true fans who travel away also. And we do watch the match and talk football. We just sit in the lounge that’s all.
I think the punters you are referring to are the one match guests of the 1882 club who many of them were more interested in getting boozed up and annoyingly wanting to leave their seats 10 minutes before half time in order to get more alcohol down their necks.
At the end of the day this created revenue for our club. However, at present it looks like the club are struggling to get people to stump up the cash for these one match packages, because of their pricing structure, hence all of the empty seats.
You watch in November though when we play Rovers, all of these seats will be filled with many people like you refer to above, because the club will have no problem selling hospitality packages for this fixture.

Apologies for coming over offensive but the lads used to talk about business and how much their Range Rover cost and it all got a bit boring. My fault though it was me who introduced them in the 1st place and to be fair they are still there and have introduced others.

One of the lads who is still there told me that the James Hargreaves hospitality for 1 season is now £3;600.00 including vat

Top Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:15 am

Apologies for coming over offensive but the lads used to talk about business and how much their Range Rover cost and it all got a bit boring. My fault though it was me who introduced them in the 1st place and to be fair they are still there and have introduced others.

One of the lads who is still there told me that the James Hargreaves hospitality for 1 season is now £3;600.00 including vat

No worries mate. I tend to give the ten bob millionaires a wide berth also.

Duffer_ wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:19 am

I couldn't find anything online about 100 club pricing or availability. Call me old fashioned but if you want to sell tickets in these areas, wouldn't it be a good idea to promote them rather than keeping them under the counter?

Just caught up on opening my post - I can leave it weeks at a time. I mean, who expects anything other than junk through their letterbox? I did, however, have a letter from the Club with comprehensive pricing on Hospitality and Sponsorship, including one-off 100 club pricing. I take back what I said about info not being made available but can now turn my focus to whinging about the cost (just kidding).

JH block 6 longside lounge. £2600 + Vat = £3120 for season if you are not VAT registered.

23 games a season = £135 a game.

Think I would stick with my JHU central seats at <£20 a game.

Could have a far better experience for the day with the other £115.

Not in the directors box, but the also virtually empty 100 club seats - the club have now put them on sale on a match by match basis on a seat only package (i.e. no food or lounge). Described as the some of the best seats in the house, they are available for £75 per match (Cat A games) and £65 per match (Cat B games).

I noticed that on Twitter and read the story. I assumed they must have missed out what you get for your money, but alas if it is as you say CT, it is £75 or £65 just for a seat! What a rip off. Think I will stick to my actual Bob Lord seat, post and all!

Turftalker wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:51 am

I noticed that on Twitter and read the story. I assumed they must have missed out what you get for your money, but alas if it is as you say CT, it is £75 or £65 just for a seat! What a rip off. Think I will stick to my actual Bob Lord seat, post and all!

They are well positioned seats but I find them impossible because of the lack of leg room. At least we are trying to sell them,

I did notice how few games were classified as cat B. Was it two? A bit pointless if there is so few

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... pool-clash

I think the club might actually read this message board sometimes.

Foulthrow wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:13 am

I did notice how few games were classified as cat B. Was it two? A bit pointless if there is so few

2 remaining - Millwall & Rotherham. Hull was another classed as B

Thought it might be due to games being midweek games but Stoke & Watford are midweek and Cat A

Looks to be some available, surely a good thing if people want to upgrade for a game or two…

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:59 am

Looks to be some available, surely a good thing if people want to upgrade for a game or two…

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Is an extra £30-£40 just for a padded seat worth the “upgrade”?

To be fair if I was visiting the UK with my wife as a non Burnley fan I'd probably buy these tickets. I've done similar at other sporting events abroad however I'm not sure I'd be in Burnley!