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Re: Barnes

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:49 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:38 pm
So Barnes is going to be the scapegoat today? Let’s just ignore the fact shall we that we are tactically naive and perhaps VK made the wrong calls with his substitutions?
Maybe he expected his striker not to spend his time throwing himself on the floor trying to win free kicks. He’s finished as a player.

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Re: Barnes

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:50 pm

Terrible substitution and an appalling performance.
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Re: Barnes

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:50 pm

Said on the match thread I think we should loan him out. Blocking Richardson’s pathway and we need a new striker regardless.

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Re: Barnes

Post by fanzone » Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:55 pm

Should never pull on the shirt again after today. Been a great servant but his time is up.

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Re: Barnes

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:56 pm

A horrible cheating performance today. Embarrassing.
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Re: Barnes

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:02 pm

I really love Barnes but he's is so past it really is embarrassing for him and the club. Pathetic and VK needs to just get him out of the squad.

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Re: Barnes

Post by Red Fox Rocks Socks » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:05 pm

Going round the keeper and then diving on the ball hand balling it when there was a claret shirt in the middle was the final straw for me

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Re: Barnes

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:06 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:38 pm
So Barnes is going to be the scapegoat today? Let’s just ignore the fact shall we that we are tactically naive and perhaps VK made the wrong calls with his substitutions?
You're right. He made the wrong substitutions... Barnes, in particular!

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Re: Barnes

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:07 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:38 pm
So Barnes is going to be the scapegoat today? Let’s just ignore the fact shall we that we are tactically naive and perhaps VK made the wrong calls with his substitutions?
Shame Costelloe wasn't on the bench. He couldn't have been any worse.

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Re: Barnes

Post by SkiptonClaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:18 pm

Bit of an indictment that he was apparently afforded the opportunity to extend his contract. Should have been out of the club two or three years ago. A relic.

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Re: Barnes

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:19 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 5:43 pm
He wasn’t good l agree. However, my point was let’s not just scapegoat Barnes and at the same time ignore the obvious deficiencies in the way our team is set up to play.
Not a lot wrong with the way we were set up first half.
Blackpool were bound to give it's go second half.
Bringing on Barnes and changing the set up was inexplicable.
What was going through VKs mind when he made those changes?

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Re: Barnes

Post by Wembley09 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:20 pm

Not Barnes fault.
But he pi**ed me off when he went down at the edge of their box on the bob lord side, trying for a free kick when he clearly went down looking for it.

Free kick went against him of course, when he had a glorious chance to get it into the box.

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Re: Barnes

Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:21 pm

He was an embarrassment again today

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Re: Barnes

Post by Gibbo » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:23 pm

Simply not been good enough for 18 months plus.

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Re: Barnes

Post by superdimitri » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:25 pm

Seems to have lost touch with when to go down and when not to go down. Today it was another embarrassing dive.

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Re: Barnes

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:36 pm

The very definition of ‘meh’.

I’d have been more effective up top.

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Re: Barnes

Post by Longsidejono » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:46 pm

**** and unfortunately the players we don’t own, maatesen, tella, harwood bellis are our best players! Maybe minus Cullen and brownhill!
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Re: Barnes

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:49 pm

Pity he wasn't moved on like Vokes a few seasons ago so we'd just have far more positive memories of him

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Re: Barnes

Post by warksclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 6:51 pm

I think someone posted recently that its playing with 10 men when he comes on. Does that not say it all. We need to be stretching defences

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Re: Barnes

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:01 pm

Why oh why was he given a contract that HE could extend, was it down to Dyche, or the inept Garlick ?

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Re: Barnes

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:42 pm

It's painful watching him now. Great move by Dyche/Garlick to put the clause for an extra 12 months in his contract.

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Re: Barnes

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:44 pm

He’s finished unfortunately , bring us a new striker in and he can play backup until his contract expires

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Re: Barnes

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:46 pm

I thought his performance today was disgraceful and I don’t say that lightly. He looked unfit and was so off it, it’s untrue. Trying to win free kicks rather than play football. It’s cynical and I don’t want to see it any more.

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Re: Barnes

Post by clansman » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:09 pm

I’ve always liked Barnes as even as a player who was not exactly blessed with skill he could be effective. However surely todays performance should show he is no longer capable of affecting even championship games. Poor and to be honest the “collapse “ near the end was just embarrassing.

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Re: Barnes

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:21 pm

We need an alternative and fast. It’s not helping us bringing him on. May do a job in league 1 for someone.

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Re: Barnes

Post by warksclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:30 pm

Unfortunately if VK continues to play him, he will go down in my estimation

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Re: Barnes

Post by scouseclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:08 pm

All he does is make ever more ludicrous attempts to “buy”free kicks. The one by the touch line near the end was just embarrassing, but the one that really riled me was before that, when he might actually have been through on goal but felt a bit of contact on the edge of the box and elected to go down. He might have scored if he’d stated on his feet.

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Re: Barnes

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:12 pm

scouseclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:08 pm
All he does is make ever more ludicrous attempts to “buy”free kicks. The one by the touch line near the end was just embarrassing, but the one that really riled me was before that, when he might actually have been through on goal but felt a bit of contact on the edge of the box and elected to go down. He might have scored if he’d stated on his feet.
Almost forgot about that one you mentioned on the edge of the box. He was definitely through on goal! What a joke.

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Re: Barnes

Post by KRBFC » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:18 pm

Every time the ball goes near him, it's given straight back. Either he's offside, handballing it, diving or fouling. Just get onside, stay on your feet and hold the fkn ball. simple task
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Re: Barnes

Post by Jellybean » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:20 pm

I really dislike this habit that many players are developing of grabbing the ball before the ref has blown - almost like they're attempting to force the ref to give the free kick, good that this free kick went against Barnes in that instance, was never a free kick and hopefully they'll stop hand balling it!

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Re: Barnes

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:24 pm

Had he not been able to trigger his own extension to his contract (God knows how that happened), he wouldn’t be anywhere near the club. He should have gone three years ago. We still need one, preferably two, Championship strikers.

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Re: Barnes

Post by Boroclaret » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:12 pm

He's absolutely crap. How we still don't have anyone better than him Is a disgrace.

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Re: Barnes

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:37 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:24 pm
Had he not been able to trigger his own extension to his contract (God knows how that happened), he wouldn’t be anywhere near the club. He should have gone three years ago. We still need one, preferably two, Championship strikers.
Thank Dyche for all of that

Barnes is way past it and unfortunately his wage may now be preventing us from signing a replacement

I dread when Muric tries to pass out from the back but dread even more when I see Barnes come on

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Re: Barnes

Post by Willy » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:53 pm

Agree with a lot of the comments above and he's nowhere near been good enough at holding the ball up which was one of his strengths but also in his defence his movement has been pretty good without him getting the pass that it deserves.

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Re: Barnes

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:13 am

Willy wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:53 pm
Agree with a lot of the comments above and he's nowhere near been good enough at holding the ball up which was one of his strengths but also in his defence his movement has been pretty good without him getting the pass that it deserves.
He got an excellent through ball, I think by Maatsen, on the edge of the box yesterday, he would have been one on one with the keeper, yet he felt a slight touch and fell over, the ref wasn’t conned.

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Re: Barnes

Post by enduroclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:56 am

Maybe he doesn’t do the diving bull-**** in training?
But as soon as he sees a league referee he can’t help himself?
Anyhow, surely VK has seen what we all saw and we can preserve our good memories of Barnes, whist he draws a wage and watches from the stands.

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Re: Barnes

Post by northeastclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:59 am

I can’t remember a thread on here which has been so unanimous and in agreement.

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Re: Barnes

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:01 am

northeastclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:59 am
I can’t remember a thread on here which has been so unanimous and in agreement.
Don't worry. IanMcL will be along shortly to tell us how great Barnes is, and how he'll bag 20 this season if we just be patient :roll:

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Re: Barnes

Post by spt_claret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:10 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:37 pm
Thank Dyche for all of that
I'm sorry did you miss when Jackson kept bringing him on and even starting him?

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Re: Barnes

Post by tiger76 » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:24 am

Surely that has to be Barnes last game in a Burnley shirt, he offered nowt, no movement, no holding up and linking play, and constantly went to ground at the slightest touch, when the physical side is supposed to be his game.

I only hope the reports of Jay carrying an injury aren't true, otherwise we really are up the creek without a paddle.

If this 35 minutes of Barnes doesn't convince VK that we need another striker then nothing will.

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Re: Barnes

Post by northeastclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:25 am

In fairness up until yesterday I still felt Barnes could do a job for us but what was so obvious yesterday is that Jay wasn’t once in a physical battle looking for free kick or barging into the centre half. He continuously lost his man, came deep and played the ball without the need of a battle.

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Re: Barnes

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:28 am

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:01 am
Don't worry. IanMcL will be along shortly to tell us how great Barnes is, and how he'll bag 20 this season if we just be patient :roll:
Tbf there was plenty of other posters who spent all summer telling us Barnes would "rip it up" at this level.

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Re: Barnes

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:32 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:28 am
Tbf there was plenty of other posters who spent all summer telling us Barnes would "rip it up" at this level.
Rip what up? The pitch, with all the time he spends on the deck?

:oops:

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Re: Barnes

Post by GDK » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:41 am

Wow, what a horrible thread about someone who has played a huge part in our success over the last 8 years or so.

I'm sure he'd agree it wasn't his best afternoon but the problems that led to us throwing the points away started long before he came on. How come we are allowed to be more patient with the new players, but allow Ash no time at all to learn how to play this totally new system?
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Re: Barnes

Post by forzagranata » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:46 am

GDK wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:41 am
Wow, what a horrible thread about someone who has played a huge part in our success over the last 8 years or so.

I'm sure he'd agree it wasn't his best afternoon but the problems that led to us throwing the points away started long before he came on. How come we are allowed to be more patient with the new players, but allow Ash no time at all to learn how to play this totally new system?
Yes, if he was a VK signing there would be people saying “got involved, makes things happen, needs time. We have to learn how to get the best out of him”

But still, sadly he isn’t the player he once was. Some great memories and brilliant goals and epic shithousery down the years but we need to find better.

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Re: Barnes

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:47 am

GDK wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:41 am
Wow, what a horrible thread about someone who has played a huge part in our success over the last 8 years or so.

I'm sure he'd agree it wasn't his best afternoon but the problems that led to us throwing the points away started long before he came on. How come we are allowed to be more patient with the new players, but allow Ash no time at all to learn how to play this totally new system?
It's one of them you are only as good as your last game trouble being you'd have to go back some way until he last had 1, he should have been moved on earlier but it's not his fault he's still here & still getting picked the way some people comment would suggest that's isn't the case.

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Re: Barnes

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:48 am

GDK wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:41 am
Wow, what a horrible thread about someone who has played a huge part in our success over the last 8 years or so.

I'm sure he'd agree it wasn't his best afternoon but the problems that led to us throwing the points away started long before he came on. How come we are allowed to be more patient with the new players, but allow Ash no time at all to learn how to play this totally new system?
He's been dreadful for the last 18 months. Even in Dyche's system it was obvious he was finished.

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Re: Barnes

Post by warksclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:49 am

GDK wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:41 am
Wow, what a horrible thread about someone who has played a huge part in our success over the last 8 years or so.

I'm sure he'd agree it wasn't his best afternoon but the problems that led to us throwing the points away started long before he came on. How come we are allowed to be more patient with the new players, but allow Ash no time at all to learn how to play this totally new system?
I know its not a pleasant thread, but the more he plays the worse the thread will get as Barnes is not going to raise his game. He got criticised last year in the PL where defenders are exceptional. THis season he has played against indifferent Championship defenders, featured in all 5 games . but not played well in any. Time to appreciate this extended year, was one too many. Personally would prefer to play Costelloe or Richardson there, as game time for them is our future and investment in these young guys

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Re: Barnes

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:51 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:48 am
He's been dreadful for the last 18 months. Even in Dyche's system it was obvious he was finished.
That's true but if you are crap at your job & earning decent money & your boss isn't willing to transfer you into a different department or sack you & things still continue as there are, is it the bosses fault or the workers for the way things are.

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Re: Barnes

Post by IanMcL » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:01 am

Barnes was brought in, when Kompany changed the system, to 'hold on to the win'.

He was left up on his own, whereas until then, folk were attacking. He is not the reason for anything negative. Just doing as asked.

When we stopped attacking and let them on to us, we lost the 2 goals.

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