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Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Clarets4me » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:13 pm

I nearly checked that it wasn't April 1st .... Reported in the " Telegraph " today

The long-standing tradition of the classified football results on Radio 5 Live has been axed by BBC in the latest scheduling reshuffle.
Dulcet tones of James Alexander Gordon, and more recently Charlotte Green, have been a key part of Sports Report, one of the longest-running programmes on UK radio, for decades.

However, BBC bosses say there is no longer room for the full results service due to the addition of 5.30pm coverage for the Premier League evening kick-offs. Classified results have been read out after the familiar theme music Out of the Blue at 5pm on Saturdays since 1948. First broadcast on the BBC Light Programme, the show was on Radio 2 for many years before switching to Radio 5 Live in 1994. Gordon read the football scores from 1974 to 2013 (watch video below), when he was replaced by Green, the former BBC Radio 4 newsreader.

Buut fans returning to their cars after games to tune in to Sports Report were surprised on Saturday to discover there were no traditional results read out. Amid a growing backlash, Football Supporters Association chair Malcolm Clarke said it was a "disappointing decision and a sad day for football.""The classified football results on the radio have been one of the great traditions of British football," he said. "I think it is deeply regrettable that the BBC has done this and I hope they will think again."

Mark Lawrenson, the former Liverpool defender who retired as a regular BBC pundit at the end of last season, was among those to express dismay at what he described as an own goal by the corporation. "Can’t believe the BBC have dropped the Reading of the Classified results on Sports Report," he tweeted. "Talk about an OG...!! WTF..."

Axing the tradition is the latest modernising move by Radio 5 Live, which in 2020 presided over a strategic cull which led to Cornelius Lysaght, its voice of racing, to leave along with fellow staffer and host Jonathan Overend. Mark Pougatch – another respected anchor – was also told there was no regular work. A BBC statement said: "With the addition of the 5.30pm live Premier League match to our coverage, Sports Report has been condensed into a shorter programme. We will still offer a comprehensive goal service throughout the day on air and on the BBC Sport website as well as Final Score on BBC One. We would like to thank everyone who has read the classified football results on 5 Live over the years."

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:19 pm

With the of modern tech, I suppose it's no longer needed

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:21 pm

Another nail in the BBC coffin.

I don't see how a 5.30 game stops them reading out the results of the 3pm kick offs.

All they do is waffle on for ages before the match anyway.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by SalisburyClaret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:22 pm

Just another part of the dumbing down of the BBC
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Post by forzagranata » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:29 pm

Open goal for Talksport who can be bothered to read out the results.
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Clarets4me » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:36 pm

What they don't seem to realise is that the " Classified Results " is one of those " Fabric of the Nation " things, that bind us together.

" It's Five O'Clock and time for Sports Report ", has been heard over the Radio for years, Dads taking their sons to games will have heard it with their Fathers or Grandfathers decades earlier. Most fans of Clubs have other teams they have a soft spot for, axing the " Classified Results " just seems pointless.

The excuse that it's going because there is a 5.30pm Premier League game is frankly ridiculous. It takes around 4 minutes to read the results, which means 4 minutes less discussion on how crap Harry McGuire is going to be, or 4 minutes less of the " joshing and bants " between barely cogent ex-players like Clinton Morrison, who's perennial struggle with the English language we could well do without ...
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by claretburns » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:36 pm

Up the Clarets, a Burnley fan group, posted that it was "tradition" to tune into the results at 5pm on a Saturday.

UTC famous on BBC, probably think we support Barnsley.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by JohnDearyMe » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:36 pm

That would be a real shame

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by JohnDearyMe » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:38 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:36 pm
What they don't seem to realise is that the " Classified Results " is one of those " Fabric of the Nation " things, that bind us together.

" It's Five O'Clock and time for Sports Report ", has been heard over the Radio for years, Dads taking their sons to games will have heard it with their Fathers or Grandfathers decades earlier. Most fans of Clubs have other teams they have a soft spot for, axing the " Classified Results " just seems pointless.

The excuse that it's going because there is a 5.30pm Premier League game is frankly ridiculous. It takes around 4 minutes to read the results, which means 4 minutes less discussion on how crap Harry McGuire is going to be, or 4 minutes less of the " joshing and bants " between barely cogent ex-players like Clinton Morrison, who's perennial struggle with the English language we could well do without ...
Very well put

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Clarets4me » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:38 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:19 pm
With the of modern tech, I suppose it's no longer needed
Using that argument, we could happily dispose of Radio 1, Radio 3, and 6 Music, as you can just download or stream the lot ..

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by bfcjg » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:39 pm

Used to love getting on the coach after an away game and god iconic tune was played then the results, almost like winning again or losing again depending on other results.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:39 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:21 pm
Another nail in the BBC coffin.

I don't see how a 5.30 game stops them reading out the results of the 3pm kick offs.

All they do is waffle on for ages before the match anyway.
Presumably to fit in the reports from the afternoon's games. I guess there's more people interested in the Chelsea match than how Brechin v Airdrie finished.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by ElectroClaret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:40 pm

Yes, read about this.
Disappointing but not surprising.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Bosscat » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:41 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:36 pm
What they don't seem to realise is that the " Classified Results " is one of those " Fabric of the Nation " things, that bind us together.

" It's Five O'Clock and time for Sports Report ", has been heard over the Radio for years, Dads taking their sons to games will have heard it with their Fathers or Grandfathers decades earlier. Most fans of Clubs have other teams they have a soft spot for, axing the " Classified Results " just seems pointless.

The excuse that it's going because there is a 5.30pm Premier League game is frankly ridiculous. It takes around 4 minutes to read the results, which means 4 minutes less discussion on how crap Harry McGuire is going to be, or 4 minutes less of the " joshing and bants " between barely cogent ex-players like Clinton Morrison, who's perenni2al struggle with the English language we could well do without ...
☝️ what Clarets4me said ☝️

Sums it up perfectly 👍🙂

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:42 pm

What next? Scrap the shipping forecast?

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by SalisburyClaret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:43 pm

Inform, Educate, Entertain - they’re struggling in all fronts

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:44 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:19 pm
With the of modern tech, I suppose it's no longer needed
Get behind the wheel in your car after the match and say it’s no longer needed. It’s a dreadful decision to axe it.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by chekhov » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:44 pm

Ambivalent about the football results being read out, but it’s 606 that needs axing. Never the same since Danny Baker got the shove.
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Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:45 pm

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:47 pm

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:47 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:44 pm
Get behind the wheel in your car after the match and say it’s no longer needed. It’s a dreadful decision to axe it.
How often are you in your car at 5.00 after a game?

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:48 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:39 pm
Presumably to fit in the reports from the afternoon's games. I guess there's more people interested in the Chelsea match than how Brechin v Airdrie finished.
I don't see why they can't do that at half-time in the 5.30 game.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by claret2018 » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:51 pm

If only there were another way of finding out the football scores.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:55 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:51 pm
If only there were another way of finding out the football scores.
I know. How difficult is it to text someone sat at home watching SSN?

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:01 pm

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by daveisaclaret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:01 pm

Thought I'd just missed it on Saturday but then was pleased that Chapman read out all of the scores I was actually interested in (ie the English leagues) not long after we got back to the car.

Great big fuss over nothing.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:44 pm
Get behind the wheel in your car after the match and say it’s no longer needed. It’s a dreadful decision to axe it.
I don't rush back to the car to listen to it though, I check the scores on my phone and they're usually shown in the ground on the screen and on the concourse TVs.

I'm old enough to remember seeing groups of men gathered outside places like TV shops to catch the scores on Teletext, but that got discontinued due to modern tech.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:05 pm

Seems like a pretty nothing kind of thing to get upset about.
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:08 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:05 pm
I don't rush back to the car to listen to it though, I check the scores on my phone and they're usually shown in the ground on the screen and on the concourse TVs.

I'm old enough to remember seeing groups of men gathered outside places like TV shops to catch the scores on Teletext, but that got discontinued due to modern tech.
Good for you but thousands switch the radio on to listen to the results.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Clarets4me » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:17 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:08 pm
Good for you but thousands switch the radio on to listen to the results.
Quite !

It's " I'm alright, Jack " for some, but what about the elderly, disabled, housebound or blind folk, who rely on the Radio ?
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:17 pm

Mid 60s travelling home I’d have my little tranny with an aerial attached to the top of the passenger window. Being 13ish I could memorise every result and then work the tables out in my head. I wish I could do that now!!
Ridiculous decision by a corporation led by imbeciles.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:18 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:17 pm
Quite !

It's " I'm alright, Jack " for some, but what about the elderly, disabled, housebound or blind folk, who rely on the Radio ?
Talksport?

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by daveisaclaret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:19 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:17 pm
Quite !

It's " I'm alright, Jack " for some, but what about the elderly, disabled, housebound or blind folk, who rely on the Radio ?
Won't be a problem for them because the presenter read out all the scores

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:26 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:38 pm
Using that argument, we could happily dispose of Radio 1, Radio 3, and 6 Music, as you can just download or stream the lot ..
Things are just changing & not necessarily for the better, I’ve noticed recently with some products that you don’t even get operating instructions or any sort of paper manual which was once standard you have to download the instructions now.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by claretspice » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:32 pm

There's a broader issue I think, in that Sports Report as a whole is desperately important in giving exposure to different sports, and football below the Premier League. The classified football results in themselves give lower league teams a moment of prominence they don't necessarily otherwise get on prime-time national radio, but the broader show strikes me as being (or having been) vital in connecting the stories of those other sports, or lower league football, to the nation at large. Of course, the results - like those stories - are available online, but the difference is that people have to go looking for them. Sports Report and the classified football results deliver them on a plate.

I'd argue that's a more important function for the BBC to perform as a public service broadcaster than delivering yet another top flight commentary. If needs be, put the commentary on Sports Extra for the first 30 minutes to enable Sports Report to run its course.
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:32 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:17 pm
Mid 60s travelling home I’d have my little tranny with an aerial attached to the top of the passenger window. Being 13ish I could memorise every result and then work the tables out in my head. I wish I could do that now!!
Ridiculous decision by a corporation led by imbeciles.
You might need to reword that in this day and age 😉

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:34 pm

They are probably trying to make more air time for people who can’t string a sentence together ( like Paul Merson or Clinton Morrison). BBC really is going down the pan as an organisation. Queue the apologists.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:36 pm

I used to like the BBC Radio Lancashire Football Phone-in while travelling back home from the Turf, since they stopped doing that show, I've felt out of touch with the other Lancashire clubs... I couldn't name any players for Preston or Blackpool players now, unless there is a clarets connection.

The classified results gave me a bit of education on obscure teams... Elgin City, Blythe Spartans... Matlock Gladiators... I would've never have heard of these teams. Over time, the information used to stick, about what division they were in, how they are performing in the league and so on. I don't actively seek that information anymore... It had to be piped into me while looking at brake lights.

I have a strange relationship with Social Media though. I don't care much for Burnley Podcasts or fan content. I just don't listen to them... the No Nay Never lot, or Vizeh or whoever... its not their fault, I'm just not interested. But if Burnley was being discussed on National Radio, like BBC 5Live or Talk Sport, I'd tune in.
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Carport » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:37 pm

Just the opening sound bite brings back so many positive memories of attending football from the 60s onwards that I too am gutted if this is going

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by forzagranata » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:37 pm

All they need to do is skip one of the banal post-match interviews with Bruno Lage or whoever and they free up time for what has been part of the Saturday football ritual for decades.

Unfortunately terms like 'ritual' and 'fabric of the nation' and 'tradition', while perfectly apt, are not going to impress people at the BBC.

Perhaps they could be persuaded if they are told that reading out the results of games from places like Accrington, Hartlepool and Exeter is 'inclusive' 'reflecting the diversity of the country' and 'empowering' for those 'communities'.
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by martin_p » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:42 pm

The whole ‘you can get the scores via other media/channels’ argument is a little undermined when they talk about not having time because of the 5.30pm match, a match that is kicking off at 5.30pm because it’s available on TV.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Top Claret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:45 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:17 pm
Mid 60s travelling home I’d have my little tranny with an aerial attached to the top of the passenger window. Being 13ish I could memorise every resultnd then work the tables out in my head. I wish I could do that now!!
Ridiculous decision by a corporation led by imbeciles.

Been all over the world and spent time in Thailand but never met a Tranny wearing an aerial, strange that

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:45 pm

I remember being in Blackpool and the illuminated version ran around one of the buildings
It could have been Talbot Square on a tall building

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Clarets4me » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:46 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:34 pm
They are probably trying to make more air time for people who can’t string a sentence together ( like Paul Merson or Clinton Morrison). BBC really is going down the pan as an organisation. Queue the apologists.
The rather one-sided battle between Paul Merson and the English Language has it's funny side ...

On Soccer Saturday, the panelists were discussing flying to away games, and Jeff said " What about you, Mers ? "
" Not a great flier, Jeff , hated it really ... always glad to get my feet back on Terracotta ! "

I'm still waiting for John Parkin's revelation that Clinton Morrison threatened to have him shot during a game to be investigated by the FA and the BBC ! :o
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by SlidingTackle » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:47 pm

Slightly off topic, but please reassure me that on leaving grounds at around 5pm you'd sometimes see random groups of blokes following someone who had a transistor radio to glean just anything about the afternoons' games (whether or not he was going in their direction)? Just like men standing outside television shops watching the results come through on the teleprinter, that was a 'thing' wasn't it? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:48 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:32 pm
You might need to reword that in this day and age 😉
We were travelling back to the dark side, Yarkshur, so there could be some truth in it.

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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by davideyresleftear » Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:01 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:51 pm
If only there were another way of finding out the football scores.
You can also find out the solution to a whodunnit tv show by looking it up on Wikipedia, but some things just aren't the same.
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Clarets4me » Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:16 pm

As the late great Terry Wogan once said ...

" The BBC's motto appears to be, " If it ain't broke, break it ! "
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by Top Claret » Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:18 pm

Nothing more annoying and frustrating than getting a lift to a game and the driver puts music on the radio on the way home instead of the football, it always says to me that this fella isn't a footballing fella
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Re: Radio " 5Live " ... Classified Results

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:52 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:18 pm
Talksport?
Haven't those people mentioned got it bad enough without inflicting Talksport on them?
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