I'm all for being enlightened, please can you provide some links to your research?Grandpa Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:54 pmI actually have a wide spectrum of personally researched information. Not some BBC made documentary that again drums up a false perception, just like it does with racism. Divide and conquer. It seems it is working with you young man.
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Otherwise known as idealogical Subversion. As first warned about by Besmenov in the 80sJakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:01 pmSome people just want to be offended & will willingly succumb at the drop of a hat even at the most innocent of comments, you could give them a blank piece of paper & a problem would be there.
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Thank you MACCA.MACCA wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:47 amAnd there you have it, someone being genuine is accused of being homophobic, by the person that was actually having the homophobic thoughts/beliefs.
As people have pointed out previously, a lot of the time it's the people who are racist, homophobic etc are the ones that drum up these things to often cause tension that wouldn't normally be there.
They're the ones you need to be careful of... especially believing their supposed beliefs and intentions.
As you suggest, it was about diving. I'm not too sure how the previous poster dreamt that up as being homophobic. That said, I didn't watch the documentary.
The comment was actually aimed at man United more than Tom Daley, but all these subsequent comments are, to say the least, intriguing.
As I've said before more than once, it will only be when people don't register that a person is black or gay or whatever, because we don't care, that we have managed to move on.
If somebody mentions Tom Daley and your first thought is "he's gay" then you have not reached that stage yet. It will be a bit different on this thread where his sexuality was part of the reason for the thread being here. We should not need these threads, but unfortunately still do.
Similarly, if asked " how many burnley players that have started both games this season are not white" and you know the answer, then that is also worrying. You shouldn't know (unless having been asked already). You really shouldn't have noticed.
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You would honestly expect me to give you that? Really? If you cannot be bothered to look into all matters your self, then please do not ask me for any explanation of my own research. I suggest you look at every thing in fine detail and make your own mind up. If after your own research, you come to the same conclusion as a BBC documentary then fine. I assure you though, you won't. Believe nothing and question everythingTheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:02 pmI'm all for being enlightened, please can you provide some links to your research?
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Why wouldn't you? If you are so keen for others to be educated why wouldn't you help them on the way?Grandpa Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:06 pmYou would honestly expect me to give you that? Really? If you cannot be bothered to look into all matters your self, then please do not ask me for any explanation of my own research. I suggest you look at every thing in fine detail and make your own mind up. If after your own research, you come to the same conclusion as a BBC documentary then fine. I assure you though, you won't. Believe nothing and question everything
It'd be much quicker if you just posted them.
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Don’t wanna get all political but I will say -
The ‘liberals’ have a bit of cognitive dissonance with regards to LGBT rights with phrases like ‘diversity is our strength’ and when they’re promoting Islamic tolerance for example…
Those sections of society are some of the worst when it comes to genuine homophobia.
The ‘liberals’ have a bit of cognitive dissonance with regards to LGBT rights with phrases like ‘diversity is our strength’ and when they’re promoting Islamic tolerance for example…
Those sections of society are some of the worst when it comes to genuine homophobia.
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Life experienceTheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:09 pmWhy wouldn't you? If you are so keen for others to be educated why wouldn't you help them on the way?
It'd be much quicker if you just posted them.
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I have done, which is why I asked which part you considered to be false.Grandpa Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:55 pmI suggest you do your own research, which is the basis of my comments in the first place.
Homophobia is a problem across the world and is worse in some countries than others.
It's well documented the feelings in strict Muslim countries and Christian ones aren't far behind.
Daley's show wasn't pushing a false narrative, it was well made, educational, thoughtful etc.
So again, which part was false...
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Then we'd see what they really are...TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:09 pmWhy wouldn't you? If you are so keen for others to be educated why wouldn't you help them on the way?
It'd be much quicker if you just posted them.
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Those countries have their own beliefs. Who are we to dictate to those.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:14 pmI have done, which is why I asked which part you considered to be false.
Homophobia is a problem across the world and is worse in some countries than others.
It's well documented the feelings in strict Muslim countries and Christian ones aren't far behind.
Daley's show wasn't pushing a false narrative, it was well made, educational, thoughtful etc.
So again, which part was false...
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I'm not so sure about this bit.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:56 am
That's why Gay people in the USA are getting nervous right now, because after the abortion rules being overturned, there's a wide spread belief that same sex marriages will be the next target because of what the Christians think the Bible says (ironic after what the Catholic church has been caught doing)
The recent decision in the US is a direct result of their electing the Donald as president. He used the opportunity to replace senior judiciary with those with antiquated pro-christian right leaning tendencies, which mean only that the judicature is, for the time being, skewed and pretty intolerant.
Judging from the overwhelming rejection of roe v wade in kansas - generally a pretty Conservative state suggests that if the Democrats get this right, then the republicans are going to get a hard time in the mid-terms and a backlash against the noisy minority.
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Yes they do, it's a religious narrative that's been pushed for over a millennia all in the name of a god they cannot prove exists.Grandpa Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:18 pmThose countries have their own beliefs. Who are we to dictate to those.
I think it was Nigeria that introduced the death penalty on the advice of an Evangelical yank that was over there for a period of time.
So which part of the programme was false?
The answer is none of it.
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They're still nervous though.timshorts wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:20 pmI'm not so sure about this bit.
The recent decision in the US is a direct result of their electing the Donald as president. He used the opportunity to replace senior judiciary with those with antiquated pro-christian right leaning tendencies, which mean only that the judicature is, for the time being, skewed and pretty intolerant.
Judging from the overwhelming rejection of roe v wade in kansas - generally a pretty Conservative state suggests that if the Democrats get this right, then the republicans are going to get a hard time in the mid-terms and a backlash against the noisy minority.
Interracial marriage will be safe because one of those Supreme Judges is in one himself, but he's against same sex marriages and so are a number of his colleagues.
Yes I agree Trump stacked the deck in favour of Christian ideology
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It’s very easy to fall into a trap where things are twisted & construed into something sinister & I think engaging with some of stronger minded posters will only go 1 way you will get bogged down by the size in numbers like an hyena pack. Some posters have a weird obsession that racism & homophobia is a massive problem when overwhelmingly people aren’t really bothered & just get on with their own life’s.
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A search for "myths about treatment of homosexuality in commonwealth countries"Grandpa Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:06 pmYou would honestly expect me to give you that? Really? If you cannot be bothered to look into all matters your self, then please do not ask me for any explanation of my own research. I suggest you look at every thing in fine detail and make your own mind up. If after your own research, you come to the same conclusion as a BBC documentary then fine. I assure you though, you won't. Believe nothing and question everything
Comes up with this.
Not a lot to go on, is it.
Sorry, is it "research" or "life experience"? If you don't know yourself, what chance do I have?
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You mean turning a blind eye to the problem.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:23 pmIt’s very easy to fall into a trap where things are twisted & construed into something sinister & I think engaging with some of stronger minded posters will only go 1 way you will get bogged down by the size in numbers like an hyena pack. Some posters have a weird obsession that racism & homophobia is a massive problem when overwhelmingly people aren’t really bothered & just get on with their own life’s.
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You seem to be correct thus far. I have now found there is a "foe" button, which I have called into action twice. I am sure if I keep using this in my time, then I will only correspond with non like troll figures, making the whole experience on this forum much more pleasant.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:23 pmIt’s very easy to fall into a trap where things are twisted & construed into something sinister & I think engaging with some of stronger minded posters will only go 1 way you will get bogged down by the size in numbers like an hyena pack. Some posters have a weird obsession that racism & homophobia is a massive problem when overwhelmingly people aren’t really bothered & just get on with their own life’s.
I do not mind a differing of opinion, that is healthy, however deliberate comments intended to create a storm in amongst their pack, I can afford to ignore.
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By all means you can be a crusader to the cause but the problem you are perceiving isn’t really a problem. The majority of the population get on fine with each other & stand together on such issues.
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So you've gone from believing it all being made up (following extensive research) to it being true but not our problem?Grandpa Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:18 pmThose countries have their own beliefs. Who are we to dictate to those.
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Well I apologise then….genuinely.timshorts wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:05 pmThank you MACCA.
As you suggest, it was about diving. I'm not too sure how the previous poster dreamt that up as being homophobic. That said, I didn't watch the documentary.
The comment was actually aimed at man United more than Tom Daley, but all these subsequent comments are, to say the least, intriguing.
As I've said before more than once, it will only be when people don't register that a person is black or gay or whatever, because we don't care, that we have managed to move on.
If somebody mentions Tom Daley and your first thought is "he's gay" then you have not reached that stage yet. It will be a bit different on this thread where his sexuality was part of the reason for the thread being here. We should not need these threads, but unfortunately still do.
Similarly, if asked " how many burnley players that have started both games this season are not white" and you know the answer, then that is also worrying. You shouldn't know (unless having been asked already). You really shouldn't have noticed.
When you say you are not sure how this was dreamt up then if you read what you actually posted it seems pretty obvious who this could be misconstrued - but again apologies.
In terms of the first thought being that Tom Daley is gay…..you are to a degree correct. And my first thought when I see him competing is that he is a top sportsman who has had an incredible career. But this thread was about a programme he made about his sexuality and not about his sport so in that context I guess that is most peoples first thought when discussing the programme he made.
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The majority aren't the problem (although on some countries they may well be the majority). Within the minority there's some right, proper downright nasty *****. Should the just be allowed to get on with it?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:33 pmBy all means you can be a crusader to the cause but the problem you are perceiving isn’t really a problem. The majority of the population get on fine with each other & stand together on such issues.
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Well it’s sensible to let things play out you basically jumped on to the poster without even hearing an explanation until other more sensible posters felt they had to explain & defend the comment, you was far too quick to judge instead of holding back.Big Vinny K wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:34 pmWell I apologise then….genuinely.
When you say you are not sure how this was dreamt up then if you read what you actually posted it seems pretty obvious who this could be misconstrued - but again apologies.
In terms of the first thought being that Tom Daley is gay…..you are to a degree correct. And my first thought when I see him competing is that he is a top sportsman who has had an incredible career. But this thread was about a programme he made about his sexuality and not about his sport so in that context I guess that is most peoples first thought when discussing the programme he made.
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Have a difference of opinion, by all means, but I'm still waiting to find out which part of the programme was false..Grandpa Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:31 pmYou seem to be correct thus far. I have now found there is a "foe" button, which I have called into action twice. I am sure if I keep using this in my time, then I will only correspond with non like troll figures, making the whole experience on this forum much more pleasant.
I do not mind a differing of opinion, that is healthy, however deliberate comments intended to create a storm in amongst their pack, I can afford to ignore.
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It’s just outrageously generalistic and assumptive, and grandpa made it worse by declaring his out-of-touch comment was his own research.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:01 pmSome people just want to be offended & will willingly succumb at the drop of a hat even at the most innocent of comments, you could give them a blank piece of paper & a problem would be there.
Walk in LGTBQ shoes before declaring that most populations are anywhere near ambivalent towards those groups. Heck, as a poster above hints at the “community” even fights amongst itself as they each experience different pressures, experiences, and prejudices.
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I just think a lot of things are exaggerated, people get on fine it’s the people that are making a big deal out of things that make things extremely difficult for LGTBQ communities, people just want to be left alone in peace.NRC wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:45 pmIt’s just outrageously generalistic and assumptive, and grandpa made it worse by declaring his out-of-touch comment was his own research.
Walk in LGTBQ shoes before declaring that most populations are anywhere near ambivalent towards those groups. Heck, as a poster above hints at the “community” even fights amongst itself as they each experience different pressures, experiences, and prejudices.
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Made what worse exactly?NRC wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:45 pmIt’s just outrageously generalistic and assumptive, and grandpa made it worse by declaring his out-of-touch comment was his own research.
Walk in LGTBQ shoes before declaring that most populations are anywhere near ambivalent towards those groups. Heck, as a poster above hints at the “community” even fights amongst itself as they each experience different pressures, experiences, and prejudices.
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Well I think we can clearly see who sits on what side in this debate.
Not much else to say really
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I know he's foed me, that's why he's avoiding answering a question that he can't...
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As much as I admire your confidence in taking up the role of spokesperson for the LGBTQ+ community, I think it's time for another sabbatical.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:02 pmI just think a lot of things are exaggerated, people get on fine it’s the people that are making a big deal out of things that make things extremely difficult for LGTBQ communities, people just want to be left alone in peace.
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Two middle aged white men declare racism and homophobia isn't a problem in the UK based on life experience. Unbelievable.
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Because, grandpa, you went from generalized and inaccurate statements in ignorance to one’s claimed to be informed, and then, to boot, your own conclusions, the evidence for which you have refused to provide any, never mind credible citations for.
If you are gay, bi, trans, queer, and have spent your “life experience” as such an identification, then I might start to listen to you, until then I’ll call it what it is….. head in the sand ill-informed garbage
If you are gay, bi, trans, queer, and have spent your “life experience” as such an identification, then I might start to listen to you, until then I’ll call it what it is….. head in the sand ill-informed garbage
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I honestly think it’s people like you that whip up a frenzy that make life hard for the people but I don’t think you do it intentionally you actually mean well but you don’t realise the damage that you do. Good evening anyway.TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:13 pmAs much as I admire your confidence in taking up the role of spokesperson for the LGBTQ+ community, I think it's time for another sabbatical.
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In the words of Arnold J Rimmer, "you are brimming over with wrongability"Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:17 pmI honestly think it’s people like you that whip up a frenzy that make life hard for the people but I don’t think you do it intentionally you actually mean well but you don’t realise the damage that you do. Good evening anyway.
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I imagine that Windrush scandal wasn't a real problem at all. Just people "whipping up a frenzy".
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How does one do any research whilst believing nothing. Not much point reading up about stuff, or even experiencing it in real life (and I would strongly doubt you have ever experienced homophobia or racism first hand), if you’re not going to believe what you read / see / experience?Grandpa Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:06 pmYou would honestly expect me to give you that? Really? If you cannot be bothered to look into all matters your self, then please do not ask me for any explanation of my own research. I suggest you look at every thing in fine detail and make your own mind up. If after your own research, you come to the same conclusion as a BBC documentary then fine. I assure you though, you won't. Believe nothing and question everything
Tbh, a lot of these posts about “doing your own research” make you sound like David Icke, or Matt Le Tissier
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Yep, it’s just those damned minorities that are the problem, experiencing racism and homophobia when they should just try being straight and white like you.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:33 pmBy all means you can be a crusader to the cause but the problem you are perceiving isn’t really a problem. The majority of the population get on fine with each other & stand together on such issues.
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You are perceiving problems that don’t exist, everybody generally speaking are fine with each other & live in harmony a small element of troublemakers exist making problems appear bigger than their really are.
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Very interesting debate. As someone who has worked in everything from factory floor to academic circles I have met all sorts of people. Until the last five years not one of them ever wanted to defined by their sexuality, in any way.
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I bet your one of those that masked up. #dontlookup
Greenmile wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:17 pmHow does one do any research whilst believing nothing. Not much point reading up about stuff, or even experiencing it in real life (and I would strongly doubt you have ever experienced homophobia or racism first hand), if you’re not going to believe what you read / see / experience?
Tbh, a lot of these posts about “doing your own research” make you sound like David Icke, or Matt Le Tissier
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I see as normal some are getting their nickers in a twist by twisting and bending the talk of Mr Grandpa claret into being Mr homophobic, when he's nothing but a normal guy who expresses the option of the majority and not the few like the outspoken lefties who pollute this message board
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FYI saying it over and over doesn't make you any less wrong.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:22 pmYou are perceiving problems that don’t exist, everybody generally speaking are fine with each other & live in harmony a small element of troublemakers exist making problems appear bigger than their really are.
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My mate got his house burgled. I told him, "actually mate, burglaries are going down. It's only a small minority who burglarise these days, everyone else will give you peace." And even though he developed an obsessive compulsive disorder because of the fright the burglary game him where he now needs to lock and unlock then lock again his windows and doors three times in a row every single time he leaves the house, I reckon it brought him a massive amount of consolation when I told him that most people aren't burglars. Honestly, if anything I think it's those people who make a point of locking their doors and assume they're going to get burgled who create division where there is none. It's divide and rule. Do your own research.
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Spiral wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:49 pmMy mate got his house burgled. I told him, "actually mate, burglaries are going down. It's only a small minority who burglarise these days, everyone else will give you peace." And even though he developed an obsessive compulsive disorder because of the fright the burglary game him where he now needs to lock and unlock then lock again his windows and doors three times in a row every single time he leaves the house, I reckon it brought him a massive amount of consolation when I told him that most people aren't burglars. Honestly, if anything I think it's those people who make a point of locking their doors and assume they're going to get burgled who create division where there is none. It's divide and rule. Do your own research.
Some of my best friends are burglars.
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I'm not a lefty but hey ho.Top Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:35 pmI see as normal some are getting their nickers in a twist by twisting and bending the talk of Mr Grandpa claret into being Mr homophobic, when he's nothing but a normal guy who expresses the option of the majority and not the few like the outspoken lefties who pollute this message board
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I knew it.
“Do your own research” used unironically is probably about 90% accurate in identifying a certain type of person. Ive researched that myself
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Have to admit, my first reaction when I read the post you refer to was, aw dear and Wow. The mere increase in cases alone amply demonstrates how effective masking up was.
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Sad to say even the Tory party is taken over by lefties these days that is why the country is on its knees
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It takes some effort to be the most ignorant on a thread featuring jakubclaret, so hats off to ‘grandpa claret’ I guess.
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Honestly don’t know if you’re joking or not.Top Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:06 pmSad to say even the Tory party is taken over by lefties these days that is why the country is on its knees
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Re: Tom Daley
Yep, the Bullington Club and the dregs of Eton's multi-millionaire clientele base are renowned for their Trotsky-ite leanings.Top Claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:06 pmSad to say even the Tory party is taken over by lefties these days that is why the country is on its knees
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