OT. Salman Rushdie
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OT. Salman Rushdie
Condition unknown after being stabbed in the neck by an attacker,while on stage at a literary festival.
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The Fatwa has never been cancelled and I'm pretty sure the top man in Iran had his Twitter account suspended the other year for banging on about Rushdie and the Fatwa
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Cranks
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Terrible.
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Wrote The Best Dreams - I still have it
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a terrible indictment of modern society when social media have numerous people celebrating his attack.
The fact that books like his can no longer be written says a lot about how cowed we have become as a society.
Freedom of speech should be to the fore of every decent country. Apathy and fear and legislation is the new order it seems.
The fact that books like his can no longer be written says a lot about how cowed we have become as a society.
Freedom of speech should be to the fore of every decent country. Apathy and fear and legislation is the new order it seems.
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Those people should be named, shamed and where possible deported.
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Abolutely horrifying. Stop the World I want to get off.
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Well you talk **** you get the consequences and I m not on about salman
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Agreed 100%.Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:57 pma terrible indictment of modern society when social media have numerous people celebrating his attack.
The fact that books like his can no longer be written says a lot about how cowed we have become as a society.
Freedom of speech should be to the fore of every decent country. Apathy and fear and legislation is the new order it seems.
There are no clear indications that "the powers that be" will change course and defend free speech (note the recent Hampshire police (several descending on his home) confrontation with a veteran for a jokey tweet involving the LGBTetc flag).
It seems to be a mixture of cowardice and loss of confidence/belief in the "western way of life" that has brought our society much progress over recent centuries.
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Crackpots
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Keep fighting Salman, they were never going to give up on the fatwa were they?
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Whackjobs all over the world. I watched an interview with Michael Palin last year, and he said the Life of Brian wouldn't be made in today's world. Apparently, they got pelters for it at the time, but it didn't escalate into violence or death. Like most decent people, I no truck with religious bigots and nutters, no matter what the faith is they claim to follow. We should have put this behind us centuries ago.Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:57 pma terrible indictment of modern society when social media have numerous people celebrating his attack.
The fact that books like his can no longer be written says a lot about how cowed we have become as a society.
Freedom of speech should be to the fore of every decent country. Apathy and fear and legislation is the new order it seems.
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i doubt the boy who attacked salman has ever read the satanic verses.
i doubt he's ever read much beyond religious dogma.
all that fuss over nothing.
i doubt he's ever read much beyond religious dogma.
all that fuss over nothing.
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Idiotic but no worse than attacking someone for supporting a different football team.
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Religion of peace my backside...
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And not a mention from the said religion about the children in rochdale, rotherham and other places eh?
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The belief systems for most if not all religions are peaceful. It has always been misunderstandings of those beliefs that make people with mental health issues do wrong things
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I don't think there has been any misunderstanding here. Nor do I think he necessarily has mental health issues.
This chap was probably trying to carry out the assassination ordered by the leader of Iran. Indeed, he was possibly trying to claim the reward offered by the Ayatollah.
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I stand by my statement but you need to understand that those who follow those who misunderstand the religion are going to do the bad things. The person with the knife may well be (in their own mind) perfectly sane, but their belief in what they are told by others is flawed and as a result of the misunderstanding and likely mental illness.2 Bee Holed wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:43 pmI don't think there has been any misunderstanding here. Nor do I think he necessarily has mental health issues.
This chap was probably trying to carry out the assassination ordered by the leader of Iran. Indeed, he was possibly trying to claim the reward offered by the Ayatollah.
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I’d say this is fundamentally a false understanding of religion. You only need to look at the texts. I could go on…
Anyway I’ll get this in before the thread is pulled. There’s a good reason why threads on religion are banned!
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It needs sorting in a fair justice system dictated by the citizens in that country without outside interference, people need involving & asking for input & that should apply in every country.
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All the classics getting an airing tonight.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:50 pmIt needs sorting in a fair justice system dictated by the citizens in that country without outside interference, people need involving & asking for input & that should apply in every country.
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People should have a right to decide.
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No they shouldn’t, it’s truly idiotic. Never mind, have whatever warped view you want.
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The wonderful peace loving world of Islam.
Not Satanic at all.
Not Satanic at all.
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Whether we agree or disagree with peoples decisions people should have a right to make a decision that affects them. People should be able to vote on criminal punishments in terms of sentencing when guilts been established.Swizzlestick wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:58 pmNo they shouldn’t, it’s truly idiotic. Never mind, have whatever warped view you want.
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Whilst I’m a big fan of promoting your “running man” style game show to replace X Factor you are a perfect example of why the public shouldn’t decide.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:53 pmWhether we agree or disagree with peoples decisions people should have a right to make a decision that affects them. People should be able to vote on criminal punishments in terms of sentencing when guilts been established.
As for the guy who committed this crime, absolute coward.
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A public vote on sentencing!?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:53 pmWhether we agree or disagree with peoples decisions people should have a right to make a decision that affects them. People should be able to vote on criminal punishments in terms of sentencing when guilts been established.
Bordeaux’s Running Man description is a very apt comparison to such a suggestion.
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Nothing that sensational sorry to disappoint, the whole population should have a say everybody from all different backgrounds within the UK, a respectful discretional piece of paper with a box to tick with choices, we get enough political bumf at the time of elections so cost shouldn’t be a issue. Involve the people that pay for the decision makers.Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:58 pmWhilst I’m a big fan of promoting your “running man” style game show to replace X Factor you are a perfect example of why the public shouldn’t decide.
As for the guy who committed this crime, absolute coward.
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FFS, why is this melt allowed to post this drivel on every thread?
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So you knew who I was referring to as a melt then…Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:09 pmYou don’t agree with it say why? Explain my reasoning as faulty.
I’m not explaining anything to you. No offence (actually I don’t care) but you’re a pig ignorant idiot. Good evening.
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Because there's not an Islamic or sandal wearing mentalist willing to try and stab him to death.
Freedom, as a Jock would say.
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That’s very constructive thanks for answering the question you couldn’t clearly.
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People shouldn’t rush to judge here. After all, the BBC, no less, are reporting that “no motive has yet be confirmed.”
So it could very easily be that Salman owed the poor guy a tenner and was refusing to pay it back. Or something.
So it could very easily be that Salman owed the poor guy a tenner and was refusing to pay it back. Or something.
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Classic. Love your postings from behind the sofa after a few.Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:13 pmBecause there's not an Islamic or sandal wearing mentalist willing to try and stab him to death.
Freedom, as a Jock would say.
Love it.
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I don't have a sofa, but what I do have is a Panzerkampfwagen from where I neutralise sad sandal wearing stalkers.Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:21 pmClassic. Love your postings from behind the sofa after a few.
Love it.
Love it too.
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Love it. Absolutely love it.
Keep being brave my man. One step at a time.
Keep being brave my man. One step at a time.
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In your previous post you said people should have say on decisions that affect them. So presumably you mean the victims and their loved ones having a say on the sentencing?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:06 pmNothing that sensational sorry to disappoint, the whole population should have a say everybody from all different backgrounds within the UK, a respectful discretional piece of paper with a box to tick with choices, we get enough political bumf at the time of elections so cost shouldn’t be a issue. Involve the people that pay for the decision makers.
But here you're saying it should be the entire general public that gets to vote. So which is it?
Also, which cases should the public be voting on? Are we supposed to vote on every criminal case in the country? Because we're all pretty busy, like.
I suspect you haven't really thought this through or you're just posting complete nonsense in order to get a reaction from people.
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I think you're giving him far too much credit. He posts illogical nonsense, that's it, here's no agenda behind it.
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I've always maintained murder (really serious crimes) & not every criminal case, it shows clearly you haven't read what I've posted previously & it has been thought through, by all means disagree but I'd appreciate it if you didn't make things up to discredit my argument. People deserve a right to a say they don't deserve as British taxpayers funding MOJ when other easy solutions exist.JohnMcGreal wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:55 amIn your previous post you said people should have say on decisions that affect them. So presumably you mean the victims and their loved ones having a say on the sentencing?
But here you're saying it should be the entire general public that gets to vote. So which is it?
Also, which cases should the public be voting on? Are we supposed to vote on every criminal case in the country? Because we're all pretty busy, like.
I suspect you haven't really thought this through or you're just posting complete nonsense in order to get a reaction from people.
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So judgement on murder and which other "serious" crimes would you feel entitled to preside over?
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Standing in JML…?evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:24 amSo judgement on murder and which other "serious" crimes would you feel entitled to preside over?
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The attacker has denied attempted murder
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Was it Moe Sizlack?
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Isn't the crime being discussed here tweeting? Is that a serious enough crime to go to the public vote?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:22 amI've always maintained murder (really serious crimes) & not every criminal case, it shows clearly you haven't read what I've posted previously & it has been thought through, by all means disagree but I'd appreciate it if you didn't make things up to discredit my argument. People deserve a right to a say they don't deserve as British taxpayers funding MOJ when other easy solutions exist.
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Not sure why people are responding to Jakub
This is a person who once said he'd like a spin the wheel style system to determine what punishment is meted out.
The blokes a loon...
This is a person who once said he'd like a spin the wheel style system to determine what punishment is meted out.
The blokes a loon...