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Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:49 am

Watched there match highlights, they have recruited incredibly well.

They will be a serious challenge on Tuesday night. There individual players in midfield are arguably the best in the league.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:52 am

Thought they looked pretty average from what I saw and Norwich battered them. They scored two incredibly lucky goals.

First game they won via a penalty which was never a pen in a million years.

Not saying it won’t be an tough game but not convinced by your summary they have the best midfield in the league (that’s because we do).

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Re: Hull Team

Post by 4midable » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:05 am

Very average side

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:12 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:52 am
Thought they looked pretty average from what I saw and Norwich battered them. They scored two incredibly lucky goals.

First game they won via a penalty which was never a pen in a million years.

Not saying it won’t be an tough game but not convinced by your summary they have the best midfield in the league (that’s because we do).
I don’t think there quality all over the pitch is as good as us.

But that midfield three of Slater, Seri and Tufan is up there in this league.

Important we get goals against this lot as they will create good chances with that midfield

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Re: Hull Team

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:15 am

Watched them yesterday - they’re a threat going forward and break very quickly. Their defence was very poor and Norwich should have had the game won after 15 mins, they had so many chances.
Going to be a tough game but I’d expect a narrow win

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Re: Hull Team

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:16 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:12 am
I don’t think there quality all over the pitch is as good as us.

But that midfield three of Slater, Seri and Tufan is up there in this league.

Important we get goals against this lot as they will create good chances with that midfield
Seri is injured.

At Preston last week they had 0.21 xG to PNE's 2.11.

I think it's another game we will dominate possession wise, let's hope we can get the first goal this time, seems to suit us a lot more right now.
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Re: Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:20 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:16 am
Seri is injured.

At Preston last week they had 0.21 xG to PNE's 2.11.

I think it's another game we will dominate possession wise, let's hope we can get the first goal this time, seems to suit us a lot more right now.
True but isn’t our Combined XG this season only 2.3?

I think this will be a really tight game on Tuesday. I’m hoping we get some extra quality in by then.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:29 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:20 am
True but isn’t our Combined XG this season only 2.3?

I think this will be a really tight game on Tuesday. I’m hoping we get some extra quality in by then.
From what I see

Hudd 0.16 v our 1.42
Luton 1.21 v our 0.75
Watford 0.24 v our 0.91

infogol.net is the source for that.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:39 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:29 am
From what I see

Hudd 0.16 v our 1.42
Luton 1.21 v our 0.75
Watford 0.24 v our 0.91

infogol.net is the source for that.
Interesting the one vs Watford is considerably higher on there.

I’ve seen 0.53

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Re: Hull Team

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:43 am

Post 1: Hull are brilliant

Post 2: Hull are ****

I love this board ❤️
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Re: Hull Team

Post by taio » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:44 am

Let's disagree over the nonsense that is XG.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:46 am

taio wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:44 am
Let's disagree over the nonsense that is XG.
I know many people don’t like it but I think it’s a very useful metric, just not to use it in isolation.
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Re: Hull Team

Post by taio » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:48 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:46 am
I know many people don’t like it but I think it’s a very useful metric, just not to use it in isolation.
Pretty pointless as demonstrated by this thread :D

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:49 am

Regardless of XG, Hull currently sit top of the table and from what I have seen they are going to be a serious challenge

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Re: Hull Team

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:52 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:49 am
Regardless of XG, Hull currently sit top of the table and from what I have seen they are going to be a serious challenge
Fair enough. Will be a challenge of course. Hopefully Jay Rod is fit enough to start the game.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by mdd2 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:55 am

4midable wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:05 am
Very average side
As are we at present

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Re: Hull Team

Post by claretandy » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:59 am

Cork, Cullen and Brownhill are the best midfield in the league, it's up front that we need to improve.
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Re: Hull Team

Post by 4midable » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:21 am

mdd2 wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:55 am
As are we at present
We will be there at the end
Hull wont

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:29 am

claretandy wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:59 am
Cork, Cullen and Brownhill are the best midfield in the league, it's up front that we need to improve.
Very debatable tbh. Good in possession but Going forward it’s not particularly great.

Don’t get me wrong it’s up there but I don’t think it’s the best.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:30 am

4midable wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:21 am
We will be there at the end
Hull wont
I wouldn’t dismiss Hull, quite a few on this board said they would be dark horses and currently they are living up to that title.

Put it this way of the three teams we have played so far I suspect hill will finish higher than two of them.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:49 am

Now that the league table has taken shape after3 games norwich must be in a relegation scrap
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Re: Hull Team

Post by claretandy » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:57 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:30 am
I wouldn’t dismiss Hull, quite a few on this board said they would be dark horses and currently they are living up to that title.

Put it this way of the three teams we have played so far I suspect hill will finish higher than two of them.
You can get 66/1 on Hull....

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Re: Hull Team

Post by 4midable » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:53 pm

claretandy wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:57 am
You can get 66/1 on Hull....
I dont think Hull will be top 6

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Re: Hull Team

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:10 pm

claretandy wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:57 am
You can get 66/1 on Hull....

Same price as Huddersfield at the start of last season who went on to finish in 3rd place. :)

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Mattster » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:24 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:12 am
I don’t think there quality all over the pitch is as good as us.

But that midfield three of Slater, Seri and Tufan is up there in this league.

Important we get goals against this lot as they will create good chances with that midfield
Tufan is s***e, man gave up football for pie eating years ago.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:28 pm

Mattster wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:24 pm
Tufan is s***e, man gave up football for pie eating years ago.
At this level he’s certainly more than a handful

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Mattster » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:10 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:28 pm
At this level he’s certainly more than a handful
His love handles are certainly a handful.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:14 pm

4midable wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:21 am
We will be there at the end
Hull wont
Our present side will be know where near the top 6 come May, we look weak and toothless

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Re: Hull Team

Post by 4midable » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:15 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:14 pm
Our present side will be know where near the top 6 come May, we look weak and toothless
Some people are crazy
3 games in. A team who have never played together before

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Top Claret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:19 pm

:| T
4midable wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:15 pm
Some people are crazy
3 games in. A team who have never played together before
Nothing crazy about a fact that we look way of the mark I said the same thing after we beat an unbelievably poor Huddersfield side.

Our present personal don't look to have the physical attributes to last a championship season

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Zom Zom » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:22 pm

4midable wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:15 pm
Some people are crazy
3 games in. A team who have never played together before
Some supporters want instant success. We've not even put out our best 11 yet with injuries and lack of match fitness, and there are still more bodies coming in. I would say Vincent Kompany knows exactly where we are, what is required and ultimately, what he's going to do about it.

Three games in and we're being written off by sections our own supporters. Kin'ell :lol:

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Re: Hull Team

Post by RVclaret » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:35 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:19 pm
:| T

Nothing crazy about a fact that we look way of the mark I said the same thing after we beat an unbelievably poor Huddersfield side.

Our present personal don't look to have the physical attributes to last a championship season
Have to completely disagree that we look ‘way off the mark’. We’ve barely faced a shot on goal.

Deserved at least a point at Watford (who will be up there) and neutrals / pundits I’ve seen have agreed. You said a good team would ‘wipe the floor’ with us - well Watford didn’t, at all. Completely dominated Huddersfield who just beat Stoke 3-1, you claimed we should forget about that win??

In fact, I’d say early signs are incredibly promising as when this team actually clicks (could be months) and we add a few players in key areas, we will be very very dangerous. I’m just hoping pick up enough points to be in and around the top 6 by that point.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by 4midable » Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:24 pm

Zom Zom wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:22 pm
Some supporters want instant success. We've not even put out our best 11 yet with injuries and lack of match fitness, and there are still more bodies coming in. I would say Vincent Kompany knows exactly where we are, what is required and ultimately, what he's going to do about it.

Three games in and we're being written off by sections our own supporters. Kin'ell :lol:
Its mental
Need 10 games to gel

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Re: Hull Team

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:45 am

Lucky that the best midfielders in the league were all unavailable last night.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:00 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:45 am
Lucky that the best midfielders in the league were all unavailable last night.
Funny enough Tufan was actually excellent for them.

If we had someone of his quality in our team we win last night

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Top Claret » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:53 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:00 am
Funny enough Tufan was actually excellent for them.

If we had someone of his quality in our team we win last night

I couldn't agree more he was excellent. I thought the midfield 3 all looked quality

Hull deserved there point and if they had have showed more endeavour in the 2nd half they would have taken all 3 as we never looked like scoring

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Re: Hull Team

Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 am

Top Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:53 am
I couldn't agree more he was excellent. I thought the midfield 3 all looked quality

Hull deserved there point and if they had have showed more endeavour in the 2nd half they would have taken all 3 as we never looked like scoring
Never looked like scoring :lol:

You are the new troll of this messageboard aren’t you.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:02 am

Top Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:53 am
I couldn't agree more he was excellent. I thought the midfield 3 all looked quality

Hull deserved there point and if they had have showed more endeavour in the 2nd half they would have taken all 3 as we never looked like scoring
Not far off with that tbh.

The second best chance of the game came from a Tufan through ball that there striker fluffed. (Must admit I thought he was offside though)

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Re: Hull Team

Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:04 am

Hull were crap.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Top Claret » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:07 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 am
Never looked like scoring :lol:

You are the new troll of this messageboard aren’t you.

Certainly no troll just telling you how I see it.

We created little with all our possession. Hull just sat back and absorbed everything we sent there way, other teams will be watching us now and they won't be giving us the same respect as Hull and Watford did.

We really do need to speed things up and try and get the ball behind more as we look pedestrian and familiar

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Re: Hull Team

Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:10 am

Top Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:07 am
Certainly no troll just telling you how I see it.

We created little with all our possession. Hull just sat back and absorbed everything we sent there way, other teams will be watching us now and they won't be giving us the same respect as Hull and Watford did.

We really do need to speed things up and try and get the ball behind more as we look pedestrian and familiar
We had 2.74 xG vs Hull’s 0.49.

That suggests we created more than enough to win the game comfortably.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:13 am

Top Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:07 am
We created little with all our possession.
15 shots (5/5/5) and 4 clear cut chances whereas Hull was 3/1/0 and 2 ccc.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Spijed » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:16 am

quoonbeatz wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:04 am
Hull were crap.
The concern at the moment is that's pretty much every side we've played, yet we've little to show for our efforts.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:16 am

I think your missing the point.

We created chances but never looked like scoring (as weird as that sounds). I stick by the view that a top number 10 and striker this team scores a shed load of goals.

We just don’t have that end ball quality as it stands

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Top Claret » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:22 am

:?
quoonbeatz wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:04 am
Hull were crap.

They looked a better equipped side than us to play 46 championship games

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Re: Hull Team

Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:24 am

Top Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:22 am
They looked a better equipped side than us to play 46 championship games
How did you reach that conclusion?

Good to see you’ve skipped the replies to your rather daft comment that we created nothing compared to Hull.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:26 am

Spijed wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:16 am
The concern at the moment is that's pretty much every side we've played, yet we've little to show for our efforts.
We've got 5 points. This is a brand new team which is 4 games in and we've dominated them all. That is more than I expected at this stage.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:27 am

Top Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:22 am
:?


They looked a better equipped side than us to play 46 championship games
Strange comment. They spent the majority of the match chasing the ball. Bang average side.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:37 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:16 am
I think your missing the point.

We created chances but never looked like scoring (as weird as that sounds). I stick by the view that a top number 10 and striker this team scores a shed load of goals.

We just don’t have that end ball quality as it stands
No, I think you've missed the point. We are discussing Hull, not our current shortcomings. Hull's "quality" midfield conceded 77% possession and allowed four clear cut chances.

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Re: Hull Team

Post by KlyBfc » Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:40 am

Funny how different people see it.

I thought Hull were poor. They were very much like us for many of our premier league away games. I expected more of their supposed strong midfield. They launched it and hoped for the best most of the time and their threat came because we were pushing so far up there was space and 1v1s when the ball went through (defend that long ball properly and we win that game, both Taylor and THB at fault when I’ve watched it back).
They were resolute late on and our subs certainly helped them deal well with any threat we posed (which by then was limited)
However for 70 mins we created enough chances to win that game comfortably:
Jay missed two glorious opportunities
Cullen header back post
Bastien fresh air swipe
Brownhill hit the side netting when he should do better
Vitinho straight at the keeper when brilliantly put in by Roberts

Add to that the bits around the box where it just didn’t quite fall right (squirmed and bobbled away) and we were much the better side.

My mate who goes home and away watching Hull said they are very much set up to be compact and counter. We saw that last night and it may well do them good. But he says they lack depth in the squad and given the choice I’d rather watch us than them at the minute.
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