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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by JohnDearyMe » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:54 pm

xxmunkyennuixx wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:49 pm
Maatsen excellent. Belis excellent. Tella looked bright. Cork doing really well. Taylor's positioning is pretty abject. When we raise the tempo, we look decent. We need a striker and a creative player to play behind. A proper centre back will alleviate the silly goals. Barnes is done and I'm a big fan of his.

A couple of signings and someone is getting pasted.
Hopefully this Macedonian winger will be an upgrade on our current wide options as well. Hope a striker and No 10 soon follow

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by warksclaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:54 pm

Love the way that "everything will be fine" when Twine returns. Some great signs from the team we have, but we need a giant alongside THB so that we do at least have a chance at set pieces and corners,where we are just not a threat, and to help in not conceding silly goals. We also need a striker with pace that can find the net at a much greater frequency than Barnes & Rodriguez. Jay should have had a hat trick tonight, but at least he got on the end of them
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by tiger76 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:54 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:44 pm
Matsen has dropped off significantly since a great start in the first match... Looks almost too laid back at times and his first touch constantly lets him down.
Completely disagree Maatsen was a constant threat down the left, and got an assist, I'm not sure what more you expect from a full back.
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by SkiptonClaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:56 pm

Twine and another forward and we'll be ok. THB exceptional tonight, Cullen is an excellent player as is Maatsen.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Milltown1882 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:58 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:54 pm
Love the way that "everything will be fine" when Twine returns. Some great signs from the team we have, but we need a giant alongside THB so that we do at least have a chance at set pieces and corners,where we are just not a threat, and to help in not conceding silly goals. We also need a striker with pace that can find the net at a much greater frequency than Barnes & Rodriguez. Jay should have had a hat trick tonight, but at least he got on the end of them
Agree completely. At least we’re signing another winger though.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:58 pm

Out of interest did anyone find that boring at times?

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Belgianclaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:58 pm

We need another good CM now Westwood is still out for a while.
Cork is a great player but too slow when opponents look to hit us on the break (which they will all want to do)

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Pickles » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:00 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:53 pm
Fantastic performance just missing the killer touch but very much enjoyed the game and excited for more
Absolutely. Thought we were very dominant and have been in every game so far. Results don't perhaps reflect how comfortable we've been.

Plenty to improve on, of course. But confident we will.

I keep saying it - way more positives than negatives.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by MDWat » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:00 pm

Thought there were some really good signs, and we’ll be a good side in time.

Yeah, the tempo was lacking at times and you’d like to see a bit more movement up front, but they’ve played 4 games together. If you think we’re gonna be rocking up and beating teams 5-0 this early, you’re not going to enjoy this season at all.

Time and patience (and a couple more players) and we’ll be more than okay.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Quicknick » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:00 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:56 pm
Twine and another forward and we'll be ok. THB exceptional tonight, Cullen is an excellent player as is Maatsen.
And a dominant centre half.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Zlatan » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:00 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:58 pm
Out of interest did anyone find that boring at times?
Not boring, but I was wanting a sense of urgency at times. We need to learn how to switch up the gears at the right time, which is something that will come soon enough
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by MDWat » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:00 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:58 pm
Out of interest did anyone find that boring at times?
No.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:01 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:00 pm
Not boring, but I was wanting a sense of urgency at times. We need to learn how to switch up the gears at the right time, which is something that will come soon enough
Not sure if it’s just the tika taka style but I found large swaithes of the games was just passing for passings sake.

Found it very boring to watch for 5 mins sessions through out the game

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by SkiptonClaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:02 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:00 pm
And a dominant centre half.
Yeah we do need a centre half. I'm discounting Long.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Zlatan » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:01 pm
Not sure if it’s just the tika taka style but I found large swaithes of the games was just passing for passings sake.

Found it very boring to watch for 5 mins sessions through out the game
That’s fair comment. I don’t mind the build up play but when there is a purpose and I can see it. Mostly it’s hard to see right now, like I said though, that will come

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:58 pm
Out of interest did anyone find that boring at times?
Nope, it's exciting, I'm loving it.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:04 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:03 pm
That’s fair comment. I don’t mind the build up play but when there is a purpose and I can see it. Mostly it’s hard to see right now, like I said though, that will come
Yes when it clicks it’s really entertaining. But at times I found that hard to watch to be honest.

Hopefully it starts clicking more often
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:05 pm

Well Pace got my 10 quid but I got nothing in return. Won’t fall that scam again

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by 1968claret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:07 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:30 pm
Tbf we can have as much possession as possible but fundamentally we are just not threatening the opposition.

I said before the game that I have no idea where the goals are going to come from in this squad and I still have no idea.

Quality in the final third is seriously lacking
Have to disagree with this. We certainly did threaten but our final touch, shot, cross just let us down at important times.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by RVclaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:07 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:05 pm
Well Pace got my 10 quid but I got nothing in return. Won’t fall that scam again
Eh? :lol:

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Neil » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:12 pm

I'd rather have 70% possession than 30% which is what we've endured for 6 years. Opposition can't score if they don't have the ball. Just got to make sure we're switched on for breakaway and find the cutting edge. Simples!
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by BabylonClaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:14 pm

brexit wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:48 pm
We didn't score goals last season and got relegated, we appear not to be able to score goals this and probably won't get promoted.
The pattern for the season would seem to be, concede a soft goal and have a 50/50 chance of equalizing
But it is entertaining, really enjoying the football
Is not scoring goals the Burnley thing? :mrgreen:
If that pattern repeats it won't stay entertaining for too long. If passing around was all that made a decent watch teams would be
selling tickets for training sessions.

But to be fair its more a 65/35 chance of equalising.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by JimmyRobbo » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:15 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:04 pm
Yes when it clicks it’s really entertaining. But at times I found that hard to watch to be honest.

Hopefully it starts clicking more often
I get your point. That is the tika-taka format. Watching that great Barcelona side without Messi was a very different affair. He really made the difference between domination with and without goals.

But football is most frequently imperfect. There have to be lulls along with energetic spells in most games. I can take what I'm watching as being worth the money. We're trying to do the right things. I would love some height so that set-pieces become a genuinely dangerous position for us. Nice as THB Jay and Taylor are, they're not very intimidating at corners etc.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by tarkys_ears » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:15 pm

Absolute dogshite again.

Talk about possession and passing... None of it amounts to anything other than giving the ball away.
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by forzagranata » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:15 pm

We have got so used to Dycheball in the Premier League that possession itself is seen as ‘good football’. But the problem is that the ball is moving so slowly and so predictably that the opposition can just sit deep and crowd the edge of the penalty area and we struggle to create. The problem would remain even with a better striker. We have to get faster with the passing and less predictable - maybe that will come with time.
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:16 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:04 pm
Yes when it clicks it’s really entertaining. But at times I found that hard to watch to be honest.

Hopefully it starts clicking more often
I think the issue here is the patterns of play that Kompany is looking for. The passing it around the back is intentional to draw them out, but just as we’ve remained disciplined over the years, if you stay in shape it’s hard to break them down.

Overall, you cannot complain at a performance with nearly 80% possession. That was our best performance, I thought, but I would like to see a plan b and a change with 10 minutes to go. For instance Muric passing it to Taylor with seconds to go is ludicrous.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by nyclaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:17 pm

Honestly some of you lot need a reality check. It's only been 4 games and we've signed 11 new players. Chill the f?ck out and have a bit of patience.
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:17 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:15 pm
I get your point. That is the tika-taka format. Watching that great Barcelona side without Messi was a very different affair. He really made the difference between domination with and without goals.

But football is most frequently imperfect. There have to be lulls along with energetic spells in most games. I can take what I'm watching as being worth the money. We're trying to do the right things. I would love some height so that set-pieces become a genuinely dangerous position for us. Nice as THB Jay and Taylor are, they're not very intimidating at corners etc.
Fair comment.

I personally found this game and the Watford game an incredibly difficult watch. Hopefully Twine coming back and some better quality coming in towards the end of the market will change things up.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Belgianclaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:17 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:05 pm
Well Pace got my 10 quid but I got nothing in return. Won’t fall that scam again
Worth my tenner I thought
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:21 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:05 pm
Well Pace got my 10 quid but I got nothing in return. Won’t fall that scam again
Same here!

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:22 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:05 pm
Well Pace got my 10 quid but I got nothing in return. Won’t fall that scam again
:lol: :lol:

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Billy Balfour » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:25 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:17 pm
Honestly some of you lot need a reality check. It's only been 4 games and we've signed 11 new players. Chill the f? ck out and have a bit of patience.
Unbelievable, isn't it? A classroom full of five-year-olds has more patience than some of the man-babies on here.
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:26 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:25 pm
Unbelievable, isn't it? A classroom full of five-year-olds has more patience than some of the man-babies on here.
Haha people are literally discussing what they just saw.

Should we all just say that was flawless because we have a new squad?

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by warksclaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:26 pm

xxmunkyennuixx wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:49 pm
Maatsen excellent. Belis excellent. Tella looked bright. Cork doing really well. Taylor's positioning is pretty abject. When we raise the tempo, we look decent. We need a striker and a creative player to play behind. A proper centre back will alleviate the silly goals. Barnes is done and I'm a big fan of his.

A couple of signings and someone is getting pasted.
Said after the Huddersfield game that Maatsen and THB , our two loans would be our best signings , as they were too good for their respective clubs to risk selling them. Tella might well fall into this category too. I know it appears Delap is not being targetted , but I think he could be sensational in the Championship.As we stand there is no guarrantee in all games that we will convert one or more of the many chances we are creating. What you can be sure of though, as Watford and Hull nearly proved tonight, they need just one chance to get all three points

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:38 pm

Embarrassing from the fan base sarcastically cheering Taylor passing to Maatsen, we have 11 new players, a brand new style of play, coaching staff probably don’t know their best formation and are trying to figure it out. We have played 4 games and could easily of won them all, majority of the time it doesn’t look like a team that have only been together for 9 weeks, some of them have only been around it a couple of weeks. it’s like some fans think we have some right to win 46 out of 46. I’m excited again for Saturday to see how we get on, when it clicks it with be fantastic to watch
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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:39 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:15 pm
Absolute dogshite again.

Talk about possession and passing... None of it amounts to anything other than giving the ball away.
Nobody is forcing you to watch it, if you don’t like it don’t watch the games simple as that

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by CaptainKirk » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:43 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:46 pm
Plenty of positives, but it’s pretty clear we have gaping wholes in this team. The next couple of weeks will dictate what season we have.
They really won’t.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by aidierobbo » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:44 pm

Why is this forum full of negative n..heads. I really don't get it. Time after time. Moan moan moan!!

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:44 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:39 pm
Nobody is forcing you to watch it, if you don’t like it don’t watch the games simple as that
🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:44 pm

CaptainKirk wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:43 pm
They really won’t.
They have to.

No striker or number ten brought in will decide our fate

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:44 pm

Anyone moaning about paying a tenner to watch the game, wow hahaha it’s simple don’t pay next time

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:45 pm

aidierobbo wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:44 pm
Why is this forum full of negative n..heads. I really don't get it. Time after time. Moan moan moan!!
Not Burnley fans. Just ignore. Or laugh.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Stayingup » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:45 pm

Charlie Taylor doesn't look happy having to pass inside or square all the time. He had one good run in the first half and then looked frightened to go forward. I'd rather see a proper big CH and Taylor out wide. Maatsen in front of him. Roberts??? Doesnt seem to fit in this sytem. Striker needed!!!

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:46 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:44 pm
Anyone moaning about paying a tenner to watch the game, wow hahaha it’s simple don’t pay next time
What are you getting so upset for? People are just discussing the match

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:49 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:58 pm
Out of interest did anyone find that boring at times?
not remotely boring, frustrating yes

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by NewClaret » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:50 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:46 pm
What are you getting so upset for? People are just discussing the match
You should have been there. Amazing atmosphere and real buzz around the place. Fantastic attendance for a mid week championship game. Everyone buzzing.

Very little on here tonight is reflective of what the Turf Moor faithful were talking about leaving that game.

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by aidierobbo » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:52 pm

That's the problem. Keyboard warriors who comment after reading reports post match!

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:53 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:50 pm
You should have been there. Amazing atmosphere and real buzz around the place. Fantastic attendance for a mid week championship game. Everyone buzzing.

Very little on here tonight is reflective of what the Turf Moor faithful were talking about leaving that game.
Interesting as all social media is doing is people complaining about the negativity.

Many mentioning moans and groans.

It’s all about opinions.

I’m there on Saturday let’s hope for a better performance

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Milltown1882 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:53 pm

Venkys4eva wrote:
Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:46 pm
Match stats


Burnley Hull
15 Shots 4
5 Shots on target 3
78% Possession 22%
742 Passes 219
1-1

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Re: Burnley v Hull match thread

Post by Staniola » Tue Aug 16, 2022 10:54 pm

It seems to me that the very same people who moaned incessantly about “Dycheball” are now slaughtering Kompany’s style. Unfortunately, this is not unbelievable.
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