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Twine
He really does seem like the most important part of the jigsaw atm (except for unsigned centre forward).
What is the injury and when will he be back? Anyone know?
What is the injury and when will he be back? Anyone know?
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Re: Twine
You say most important part of the jigsaw, but he was playing for the pretend Dons last season in a league below.
Is he really the Messiah?
Is he really the Messiah?
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Or just a very naughty boy?Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:48 pmYou say most important part of the jigsaw, but he was playing for the pretend Dons last season in a league below.
Is he really the Messiah?
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Re: Twine
I think we have to be realistic - Twine is a gifted young player - young players tend to take time to find their feet. Given until Christmas, yes I can see Twine start to flourish. To assume it will be an instant transformation, I think you may be setting yourselves up for disappointment. And setting him up to become a target… unless we are very very lucky; whether he’s a sensational player or not.
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Don't think his actual injury has been reported as such. There was some suggestion that Vinny wanted to work on his physicality and strength, how true that is I don't know.Stevie Morgan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:40 pmHe really does seem like the most important part of the jigsaw atm (except for unsigned centre forward).
What is the injury and when will he be back? Anyone know?
Scott is an excellent footballer and will add loads into this group. He is lethal from 20 -30 yards, which is what we will need if we keep playing Burnley of last season every week which we have so far.
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My Mrs was in the club shop before the Hudds match and was queueing with his Mrs and his dad, they were buying shirts. (Thought he would have just got them free tbh) but they said he was really excited and couldn't wait to get at it.
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Yes, it wa a much better when the manager just said “touch and go” about a players injury even if they’d under undergone and quadruple heart bypass, lobotomy and below hip leg amputation.
I get the impression that if a journalist asks a direct question about Twine they’ll get a pretty direct answer from what I’ve seen.
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Twine will be a good player for us. People need to call expectations I’ve seen numerous people say he will transform this team.
Most likely will take him a while to adapt. When he stepped up from league 2 to 1 it took him a while then.
Most likely will take him a while to adapt. When he stepped up from league 2 to 1 it took him a while then.
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For such a naturally talented player I don’t actually think it will take long. Look at Brennan Johnson last season for Forest, just got that natural ability and seamlessly fit into their system (19 goals overall in the league). The main thing will be physically, as VK has alluded to, can he do the counter pressing / running that’s required. In terms of systems, MK dons play in a similar way in League One, they have the leagues highest possession stats and look to play through the thirds. So in that sense he will be completely comfortable with the style of play and should suit his main attributes.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:12 amTwine will be a good player for us. People need to call expectations I’ve seen numerous people say he will transform this team.
Most likely will take him a while to adapt. When he stepped up from league 2 to 1 it took him a while then.
Slightly off topic but I think once Churlinov signs he will take on the role Bastien is doing right now.
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Twine on the nr 10 position and Bastien as an alternative for Cork may work, as teams will continue to put players behind the ball and in front of their goal to hit us on the break
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Hardly any young player from League 1 is he, 20 goals and 13 assists last season, and named POTY in that league, and the step up isn't huge imo,
One thing Twine will add is a real threat from free kicks, imagine he'd have been available for the 2 home games, and he whacks a couple into the top bin, suddenly 2 1-1 draws become narrow victories, that's the kind of difference this lad could make.
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One thing about Twine that I picked up on from his cameo appearance against Huddersfield... he's not the messiah... (or a very naughty boy for that matter...) but he is a fine footballer who will be an excellent player for us this season. We really must not expect miracles though, that just isn't going to happen.
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It could, and hopefully does tiger. But I am also sensing too much expectation on this lads head to turn our season/performances around and I think that is unfair and unrealistic.tiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:48 amHardly any young player from League 1 is he, 20 goals and 13 assists last season, and named POTY in that league, and the step up isn't huge imo,
One thing Twine will add is a real threat from free kicks, imagine he'd have been available for the 2 home games, and he whacks a couple into the top bin, suddenly 2 1-1 draws become narrow victories, that's the kind of difference this lad could make.
He’s young and stepping up. Also a new team, manager and moved to the north away from home. I imagine all that will take some settling in.
It wouldn’t shock me if he turns out to be the missing link, and I actually think the scene is set perfectly for him now to make an impact. The team is playing well & just needs that cutting edge. Hopefully he’s relishing the prospect but I don’t think our expectation should be that a young lad stepping up will unlock things for us when more senior, experienced players are struggling to solve that problem at the moment.
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There is also the positive as well, lack of news for the fans means lack of news for the opposition, so in this case Blackpool, they have no idea which injured players could be back this weekend and stops them planning to face certain players like Twine or JBG.
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I don’t think ‘turning our season around’ is the right way to put it, we are 4 games in and have delivered 4 good performances. Win on Saturday and we’ll likely be in the top 6.NewClaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:23 amIt could, and hopefully does tiger. But I am also sensing too much expectation on this lads head to turn our season/performances around and I think that is unfair and unrealistic.
He’s young and stepping up. Also a new team, manager and moved to the north away from home. I imagine all that will take some settling in.
It wouldn’t shock me if he turns out to be the missing link, and I actually think the scene is set perfectly for him now to make an impact. The team is playing well & just needs that cutting edge. Hopefully he’s relishing the prospect but I don’t think our expectation should be that a young lad stepping up will unlock things for us when more senior, experienced players are struggling to solve that problem at the moment.
Onto Twine, he was signed to provide goals and assists and did extremely well in a similar system for MK Dons. He is also our most expensive signing of the summer, so I’m sure there is some form of expectation. Kompany clearly rates him as a goalscorer as he keeps mentioning him with Jay and Barnes on the topic of needing a striker.
I think people are just highlighting this profile of player is more suited to the roles Brownhill and definitely Bastien are currently carrying out. Plus his set piece delivery is levels above the latter and might just make a difference.
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No. Just a silly boy!Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:48 pmYou say most important part of the jigsaw, but he was playing for the pretend Dons last season in a league below.
Is he really the Messiah?
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Is VK ultimately trying to emulate City, by playing with no recognised strikers?
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Twine with thrive in our team, no doubts at all about him.
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"Most important part of the jigsaw?"
Apart from the usual YouTube videos and a brief appearance against Huddersfield, what are people actually basing this on?
Apart from the usual YouTube videos and a brief appearance against Huddersfield, what are people actually basing this on?
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The lad can shoot.Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:09 pm"Most important part of the jigsaw?"
Apart from the usual YouTube videos and a brief appearance against Huddersfield, what are people actually basing this on?
It's vital in this team.
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His 20 goals and 13 assists last season??Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:09 pm"Most important part of the jigsaw?"
Apart from the usual YouTube videos and a brief appearance against Huddersfield, what are people actually basing this on?
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Brennan Johnson season before last at Lincoln in League One,
10 goals 12 assists. Last season 16 goals 9 assists for Forest. Talented players generally make the step up. Interestingly Kompany described that Hull game as ‘ideal for Scotty’.
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Think about how good Glen Little was in the 3rd tier for us.
Then think about how good Glen Little was for us in the Championship level.
Twine can do the same, hopefully. There's little point building him up or shooting him down and plenty of reasons to cheer him and the lads on when they're playing.
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The vast majority of his goals were from outside the box, which we are struggling with at the minute.
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With this mentality do we even need him with JRod and Barnes having scored plenty in the league above?
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Charlie Austin. Tore it up in League One, took to the the Championship like a duck to water, and at his peak was comfortably a PL calibre striker. You don't have the kind of goal involvement Twine had last season if you're pants at football.
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Whilst that is a fair comment, Twine is a bit of a later bloomer than Johnson. At the same age Johnson is playing premier league football, Twine was playing in league 2.
Twine is 23 having his first taste of football at this level. I think he will be potentially one our better players but I think expectations on him need to be realistic.
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I seem to rember a young kid who played at about 17/18 for us ,who like a lot of the new players that we have currently signed was light at first and when hit could be out of the game for 10/15 mins and if hit again same but was a star with wonderful skills left us played for everton and i think rangers, and then marseille and got 30 odd england caps went from legue 2 to first div (prem) Whilst early days the whole team look to have all the skills he had.
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Just look how bad Fake Dons have been this season without him. Think it’s fIr to say he’s more than just a “league one player”
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I've just a sneaky feeling he could be on the bench, but whatever the fact he's close to fitness and the churlinov signing suddenly makes us look a strong squad.
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What mentality would that be, that he scored 20 goals with 13 assists in league 1 and you think he'll do similar in the championship?Penwortham_Claret wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:40 pmWith this mentality do we even need him with JRod and Barnes having scored plenty in the league above?
I sincerely hope you're all right, but to suggest he'll be the missing piece of the jigsaw might just be stretching things currently.
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It appears so. Buying a striker doesn't seem to br a priority or we'd have bought one already. I don't expect one to be brought in before the window closes tbh. I said a few weeks back most of our goals will be scored from midfield this season.dougcollins wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:57 pmIs VK ultimately trying to emulate City, by playing with no recognised strikers?
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Trevor Steven…wonderful player. If Twine turns out to be half as good, we’re onto a winner.pureclaret wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:04 pmI seem to rember a young kid who played at about 17/18 for us ,who like a lot of the new players that we have currently signed was light at first and when hit could be out of the game for 10/15 mins and if hit again same but was a star with wonderful skills left us played for everton and i think rangers, and then marseille and got 30 odd england caps went from legue 2 to first div (prem) Whilst early days the whole team look to have all the skills he had.
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Twine will add more pep to our attack, however what we don't want to do is rush him back and for him to break down again, so I'm sure VK will carefully monitor his progress before throwing him back into the Championship fray.
Excellent news if he's likely to be on the bench at least next weekend.
Excellent news if he's likely to be on the bench at least next weekend.
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I think he needs to string a few games together before we make any kind of assessment.
He may be a bit ropey at first, coming back from injury.
He may be a bit ropey at first, coming back from injury.
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Has he played 90 minutes yet for us, he missed a lot of pre season didn't he?
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