NRC wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:49 pm

we're going by birth country

Fair enough but Ash would represent Austria and there are examples I am sure within the list above where the nationality has come from country represented rather than born.

Here is an example.

Finland (Andy Payton) - a great Finnish-er

Barnes isn't eligible to represent Austria, mostly because he is from Somerset.

Wasn't Drissa Dialo Mauritanian?

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:04 pm

Barnes isn't eligible to represent Austria, mostly because he is from Somerset.

I have just dug deeper and seen that he is ineligible to play for the senior Austrian side. That’s a reason not to add it on the list. Hadn’t realised that had happened even though he could have qualified through grandparents.

clarethomer wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:00 pm

Fair enough but Ash would represent Austria and there are examples I am sure within the list above where the nationality has come from country represented rather than born.

Here is an example.

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Ireland AKA England reserves

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:07 pm

Wasn't Drissa Dialo Mauritanian?

If he was, I’ve got it wrong. I listed him as Guineau.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:11 pm

Who the **** is Wood?

He was on the original list but then was disallowed for offside.

Lesotho

NRC wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:44 pm

so that's 41 countries so far. If I'm correct with 13 in our current squad, that's a whopping 32% of the total within one squad


Albania
Australia
Belgium
Bermuda
Brazil
Burma
Cameroon
Canada
Central African Republic
Cote D'Ivoire
Czech Republic
Denmark
Denmark
DR Congo
Ecuador
England
France
Germany
Greece
Guinea
Guyana
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Jamaica
Kosovo
N Ireland
Netherlands
New Zealand
Northern Macedonia
Norway
Peru
Republic of Ireland
Scotland
Slovakia
Sweden
Trinidad and Tobago
USA
Uzbekistan
Wales
Zimbabwe

Can include Nigeria as well.

claretburns wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:27 pm

Can include Nigeria as well.

And Lesotho

NotASpoilsport wrote:Why Lesotho Duffer_?

Latcham and, maybe, Shannon.

No, wait, that's a 'Les or two'

Sorry, self imposed thread ban!

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 6:10 pm

Added NZ just after I’d originally posted it. Was intended to go on with Australia.

I’ve not included such as Nigeria for Ade Akinbiyi. I know he played for them but he’s English.

But are we including Scott Arfield as an authentic Canadian?

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:16 pm

If he was, I’ve got it wrong. I listed him as Guineau.

Just looked it up. Born in Mauritania but played for Guinea. Not sure where that puts him on this list.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drissa_Diallo

Thought he'd played more than 14 times for us too.

welsbyswife wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 8:56 pm

But are we including Scott Arfield as an authentic Canadian?

I wouldn’t but there’s Edgar

Great thread - nice one, NRC.

Poland - Alex Cisak

Churlinov is the first Macedonian to play for us. But he almost wasn't...

Pickles wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:34 pm

Churlinov is the first Macedonian to play for us. But he almost wasn't...

Didn't we almost sign the guy who played for West Brom who scored an unusual goal against England (direct from a corner?)

Was he Macedonian?

Pickles wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:34 pm

Churlinov is the first Macedonian to play for us. But he almost wasn't...

I’m assuming you mean Artim Šakiri who played for us in pre season 2005 but failed to get a work permit

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:30 pm

Poland - Alex Cisak

Thank you. I knew there was a Pole but couldn’t name him.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:38 pm

I’m assuming you mean Artim Šakiri who played for us in pre season 2005 but failed to get a work permit

Didn’t he then get a work permit to play for West Brom?

Robbie Blake was from another planet!

Diego Penny's from heaven ...isnt he ?

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:41 pm

Thank you. I knew there was a Pole but couldn’t name him.

I had to check because I know he's part Australian but he was born in Poland

JR1882 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:56 pm

Didn’t he then get a work permit to play for West Brom?

Played for West Brom before that and they were able to get a work permit for him. I can't remember the details now but I suspect he had dropped off in terms of international calls by the time we had him on trial. I know we weren't confident in getting the work permit. Just checked, it was 2006 when we tried to sign him.

Found these quotes:

Steve Cotterill: “I don’t know what else we could have done. We just need a bit of luck at the moment.”

Bill McCartney, Senior Manager of Work Permits: “I am really sorry that the appeal for Artim Sakiri has been turned down. Whereas we don’t normally comment on these type of appeals, I felt that Steve Cotterill could not have done any more in putting forward Burnley Football Club’s case for appeal than he did.”

So we need to take Guinea off but add Lesotho and Nigeria (who are the players?) Poland and Mauritania?

NRC wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:39 pm

So we need to take Guinea off but add Lesotho and Nigeria (who are the players?) Poland and Mauritania?

Mo Camara is from Guineau

NRC wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:39 pm

So we need to take Guinea off but add Lesotho and Nigeria (who are the players?) Poland and Mauritania?

Dele Adebola for Nigeria.

NRC wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 19, 2022 5:31 pm

I think I count thirteen different nationalities in the club.

Even with the historical lists that others have provided, I can only get eleven

Please can someone name the thirteen?

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:47 am

Even with the historical lists that others have provided, I can only get eleven

Please can someone name the thirteen?



I've got these 12

Belgium - Benson
Bermuda - Tucker
Brazil - Vitinho
DR Congo - Bastien
England - Barnes +++
Iceland - Guðmundsson
Ireland - McNally
Kosovo - Muric
Netherlands - Maatsen
N Ireland - Peacock-Farrell (although English born)
N Macedonia - Churlinov
Wales - Roberts

MODS - I didn't type the above list which is under my name

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:47 am

Even with the historical lists that others have provided, I can only get eleven

Please can someone name the thirteen?

I've got these 12

Belgium - Benson
Bermuda - Tucker
Brazil - Vitinho
DR Congo - Bastien
England - Barnes +++
Iceland - Guðmundsson
Ireland - McNally
Kosovo - Muric
Netherlands - Maatsen
N Ireland - Peacock-Farrell (although English born)
N Macedonia - Churlinov
Wales - Roberts

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:07 am

I've got these 12

Belgium - Benson
Bermuda - Tucker
Brazil - Vitinho
DR Congo - Bastien
England - Barnes +++
Iceland - Guðmundsson
Ireland - McNally
Kosovo - Muric
Netherlands - Maatsen
N Ireland - Peacock-Farrell (although English born)
N Macedonia - Churlinov
Wales - Roberts

Thanks Tony. I thought I'd been hacked or something!

With regards to the list, I'd missed Tucker, but I can't think of a thirteenth.

Anyone else?

According to transfermarkt we have a Polish kid in our under 18s, Wiktor Gromek, not sure of the accuracy or if we can even count him due to not being near the first team at the moment.

claretburns wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:40 am

According to transfermarkt we have a Polish kid in our under 18s, Wiktor Gromek, not sure of the accuracy or if we can even count him due to not being near the first team at the moment.

We signed Gromek from Leicester and he signed a scholarship last year but I didn't know he was Polish.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:44 am

We signed Gromek from Leicester and he signed a scholarship last year but I didn't know he was Polish.

It may be one of them where he was born in the UK but his parents or grandparents are Polish, cannot find information where he was born, rightly as he is under 18 but transfrmarket just lists his nationality as Polish.

claretburns wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:49 am

It may be one of them where he was born in the UK but his parents or grandparents are Polish, cannot find information where he was born, rightly as he is under 18 but transfrmarket just lists his nationality as Polish.

The club have changed his first name a few times, seem to have struggled spelling it but I think it's Wiktor. I've just found something about him being called up for Poland at u15 level but it could be his family and he could be English born.

I’m not sure what number we got to in the end but according to Dave Roberts there’s 38 nationalities that have been represented

I was including Ne-jai Tucker… Bermuda

With respect to Dave Roberts, good that he has this list and that he identifies 80 players that he doesn’t know about (and therefore how he knows there are eighty unknowns is beyond me), however I can’t for the life of me follow the logic of classifying by birth, except where he doesn’t, and classifies as country represented. You can’t have both unless they’re called out as such, and from the image above, they don’t look to be.

If we're going by Country of birth, George Bellis, 86 League games between 1932-35, was born in India ...

Was he a citizen though? My daughter was born in the UAE, but she’s not a UAE citizen

NRC wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:02 pm

With respect to Dave Roberts, good that he has this list and that he identifies 80 players that he doesn’t know about (and therefore how he knows there are eighty unknowns is beyond me)

Not sure where you are coming from here. It reads to me that there are 80 known players that have no caps and he can’t find a birthplace. Therefore he can’t give them a nationality. Or am I missing something?

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:57 pm

Not sure where you are coming from here. It reads to me that there are 80 known players that have no caps and he can’t find a birthplace. Therefore he can’t give them a nationality. Or am I missing something?

That’s how I’ve understood it as well.

Austria would be there if Barnes had played for them, but as he hasn’t he’s one of those under England whereas Duff, Paterson & BPF are all under Northern Ireland despite being England born

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:11 pm

That’s how I’ve understood it as well.

Austria would be there if Barnes had played for them, but as he hasn’t he’s one of those under England whereas Duff, Paterson & BPF are all under Northern Ireland despite being England born

Michael Duff was born in Belfast. That’s the reason he could play for Northern Ireland.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:16 pm

Michael Duff was born in Belfast. That’s the reason he could play for Northern Ireland.

My mistake on that, assumed he was born in Yorkshire for some reason, but point still stands with the others though

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:22 pm

My mistake on that, assumed he was born in Yorkshire for some reason, but point still stands with the others though

His parents are English but his dad was serving in the army in NI when Michael was born. His brother Shane was born in Cheltenham.

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 21, 2022 5:22 pm

My mistake on that, assumed he was born in Yorkshire for some reason, but point still stands with the others though

I have also read he was born in Bedale, as was Simon Grayson.
I’ll trust CT though.

Might be able to add Italy to the list soon if this PSG keeper comes in and sees first team action at some point.

Edit - just seen the graphic above which shows we have previously had an Italian player. Who was that?