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Re: Connor Roberts
I've always liked Roberts, but Vitinhio on current form does seem to be an upgrade.
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Re: Connor Roberts
IMO his not “feeling too good” was a convenient way of avoiding playing against his home town ( a lifelong supporter I’m told).randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:00 pm"He didn't feel too good before the game and he wasn't available for selection" ...quote from VK re Roberts
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Re: Connor Roberts
He is a diehard Swansea fan but I highly doubt a professional would ever do something like that.IWOODLOVETT wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:57 pmIMO his not “feeling too good” was a convenient way of avoiding playing against his home town ( a lifelong supporter I’m told).
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Re: Connor Roberts
You wouldnt think he'd do anything to risk his place in the team with the World Cup so close...IWOODLOVETT wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:57 pmIMO his not “feeling too good” was a convenient way of avoiding playing against his home town ( a lifelong supporter I’m told).
Re: Connor Roberts
Our style of play seems to have changed since the Coventry game.
Brownhill seems more on the left, Cullen more on the right, Tella on the right instead of left or central left, and of course Vitinho instead of Roberts.
Overall Roberts has been OKish but not in the same mold as our new players. I don't see him back in the team.
I'm also not convinced Brownhill has the quality to stay in the side if there are better alternatives. Yes he has energy but his abilities seem limited.
Brownhill seems more on the left, Cullen more on the right, Tella on the right instead of left or central left, and of course Vitinho instead of Roberts.
Overall Roberts has been OKish but not in the same mold as our new players. I don't see him back in the team.
I'm also not convinced Brownhill has the quality to stay in the side if there are better alternatives. Yes he has energy but his abilities seem limited.
Re: Connor Roberts
Cullen was at right back instead of left back, allowing Vitinho to bomb forward. Not sure why Roberts wasn't afforded the same luxury, maybe Roberts is deemed less threatening further forward than Maatsen.
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Re: Connor Roberts
I agree, and has been said by many, Roberts has never been the player we expected.
His crossing from deep has been one of the main disappointments, that’s a strong point of Lowton , but he rarely sets up his body position in a way to get a good cross from there. I would imagine Matt would be preferred if he had more future transfer potential and on a longer contract.
His crossing from deep has been one of the main disappointments, that’s a strong point of Lowton , but he rarely sets up his body position in a way to get a good cross from there. I would imagine Matt would be preferred if he had more future transfer potential and on a longer contract.
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Re: Connor Roberts
Roberts is 6 out of 10 for everything for me. Lawton and Vertinho are better
Let's hope his stock rises in the world cup and we can move him on...
Let's hope his stock rises in the world cup and we can move him on...
Re: Connor Roberts
Lawton and Vertinho
Swear this board is a parody at times
Swear this board is a parody at times
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Re: Connor Roberts
Noticeable on Wednesday that Cullen was dropping into the right back slot a lot when we were in possession.
Re: Connor Roberts
First half we played the much anticipated 4-2-2-2 that VK used last season at Anderlecht. Tella and Jay Rod were playing together up top, Cullen (as you say) dropped into RCB in the build up and this pushed Roberts higher and wider (looked more comfortable). Brownhill played in the right half space. Second half it changed though with Tella playing wider again.
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Re: Connor Roberts
Is absolutely pants.
He cannot defend like a fullback should what so ever
He cannot defend like a fullback should what so ever
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Shambolic header but surely the keeper should be collecting that unopposed on the edge of the 6 yard box
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Re: Connor Roberts
He’s bobbins, and I wish he wasn’t at this club.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:22 pmIs absolutely pants.
He cannot defend like a fullback should what so ever
So many of our goals we concede are because of him and his poor positioning or a poorly executed skill
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Re: Connor Roberts
Totally agree, had to do a double take there to make sure I hadn’t replied to myself
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Re: Connor Roberts
Some of us have been saying he’s crap for some time!
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Re: Connor Roberts
I'd happily never see this lad play for us again. Did think after the Weghorst incident that he should probably looking at his own showings first.
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Re: Connor Roberts
Two pitiful attempts at defending today for both goals
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Re: Connor Roberts
Easily our best defender in the 1st half. Taylor had an absolute mare - but let’s blame Roberts.
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Re: Connor Roberts
SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:05 pmEasily our best defender in the 1st half. Taylor had an absolute mare - but let’s blame Roberts.
You’re joking
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The joke is blaming Roberts - obviously there’s no football reason for it - just some people don’t like him
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Re: Connor Roberts
He’s not in our first choice eleven, he will be dropped again when Beyer/Maatsen are fit.
He’s fine as backup, but absolutely no more than that.
He’s fine as backup, but absolutely no more than that.
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Re: Connor Roberts
Leave Roberts alone he is fine
Re: Connor Roberts
Was no more at fault for any goal today than anyone else at the back and certainly didn’t produce a performance worse than Vitinhio
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Re: Connor Roberts
There’s some posters who seem to be incapable of seeing the fault in anything he does. His header for the second was woeful.SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:05 pmEasily our best defender in the 1st half. Taylor had an absolute mare - but let’s blame Roberts.
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Re: Connor Roberts
One of the greatest victories in recent years and we are hanging a defender out to dry
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Quite pathetic isn't it....the first seven pages of today's match tread slated his every move.....2022's Jeff Hendrick .warksclaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:37 pmOne of the greatest victories in recent years and we are hanging a defender out to dry
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Re: Connor Roberts
He was also having to mark two playersdeanothedino wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:19 pmThere’s some posters who seem to be incapable of seeing the fault in anything he does. His header for the second was woeful.
We keep getting overloaded on the back post, and its a real concern
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Re: Connor Roberts
His header wasn't the best but the goal should still have been prevented after that. Roberts played a vital role in the equaliser. He spent ages shouting for the ball in space and when it finally came, he quickly got it wide to Benson and ran into the area for the cross. It was his attempted header that fooled the keeper.
He's a sound player is Roberts.
He's a sound player is Roberts.
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Re: Connor Roberts
This. All day long. That ball comes anywhere near the six yard box and it’s the keepers ball to catch unchallenged. Sometimes, you just need the keeper to step up and take control. When it’s in an empty six yard box, I’d DEMAND my keeper takes control. Muric treats that football like it’s radioactive at times.
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Re: Connor Roberts
Agree, I think most of the posters on here don't like Roberts because he is short and welsh.quoonbeatz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:45 pmHis header wasn't the best but the goal should still have been prevented after that. Roberts played a vital role in the equaliser. He spent ages shouting for the ball in space and when it finally came, he quickly got it wide to Benson and ran into the area for the cross. It was his attempted header that fooled the keeper.
He's a sound player is Roberts.
Is taffaboia a thing, like not liking gypos?
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Re: Connor Roberts
I like him but appreciate he is not the finished product. No one on here can convince me that Maatsen and Vitinho are better defenders than Roberts . He does not shirk a challenge. Vitinho has greater skills but will never win a 50-50.The only consistent defender we have is THB who for me produces an 8 out of 10 on nearly all game, sometimes more.Beyer looks good but has only played a handful of games. WE need to get off Roberts's back. After all he is going to the World Cup in a few weeks and there is a reason he is there
Re: Connor Roberts
He is a serviceable championship right back..but to suggest he is anything more is as bad as all the criticism he gets...
We could go Matsen / Vertino or Taylor / Vertino or even Lowton with Matsen / Vertinho / Taylor at LB before there is any need to play CR...
I say he is 1 of 4 remaining sellable assets we have left...I said last week hope he has a good World Cup and goes ..
We could go Matsen / Vertino or Taylor / Vertino or even Lowton with Matsen / Vertinho / Taylor at LB before there is any need to play CR...
I say he is 1 of 4 remaining sellable assets we have left...I said last week hope he has a good World Cup and goes ..
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Re: Connor Roberts
he was literally standing there waving his arms like he'd seen a helicopter that could rescue him from a zombie apocalypsequoonbeatz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:45 pmHis header wasn't the best but the goal should still have been prevented after that. Roberts played a vital role in the equaliser. He spent ages shouting for the ball in space and when it finally came, he quickly got it wide to Benson and ran into the area for the cross. It was his attempted header that fooled the keeper.
He's a sound player is Roberts.
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Re: Connor Roberts
6yard box but the far corner of it, possibly a bit further away. keeper doesn't go there in a crowd of players. The defenders should see it safe.bobinho wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:57 pmThis. All day long. That ball comes anywhere near the six yard box and it’s the keepers ball to catch unchallenged. Sometimes, you just need the keeper to step up and take control. When it’s in an empty six yard box, I’d DEMAND my keeper takes control. Muric treats that football like it’s radioactive at times.
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Re: Connor Roberts
Vitinho is fine defensively at his actual position - right back.warksclaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:04 pmI like him but appreciate he is not the finished product. No one on here can convince me that Maatsen and Vitinho are better defenders than Roberts . He does not shirk a challenge. Vitinho has greater skills but will never win a 50-50.The only consistent defender we have is THB who for me produces an 8 out of 10 on nearly all game, sometimes more.Beyer looks good but has only played a handful of games. WE need to get off Roberts's back. After all he is going to the World Cup in a few weeks and there is a reason he is there
Did some exceptional defensive work to keep us in the game away at Coventry
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Re: Connor Roberts
The problem for me is the system, not Roberts.
When teams break on us and we have 3 at the back, Taylor goes to the man on the ball, THB covers the near post, and Roberts covers the middle of the goal. We have no one, at the back post. Roberts was up against 3 for their second goal, and they had the jump on him because he was back pedalling.
The first was the same, THB went missing instead of the full back, and we end up with a scenario of nobody covering the back post, really poor.
I said after Brum, we have talented players, but they have a lot to learn. We need a leader at the back who organises the defence, points out the dangers, and barks instructions to his teammates.
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When teams break on us and we have 3 at the back, Taylor goes to the man on the ball, THB covers the near post, and Roberts covers the middle of the goal. We have no one, at the back post. Roberts was up against 3 for their second goal, and they had the jump on him because he was back pedalling.
The first was the same, THB went missing instead of the full back, and we end up with a scenario of nobody covering the back post, really poor.
I said after Brum, we have talented players, but they have a lot to learn. We need a leader at the back who organises the defence, points out the dangers, and barks instructions to his teammates.
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Re: Connor Roberts
But neither player was putting him under pressure for the header. It was weak, and it should be much better when he’s not being challenged for it. He’s cost us at least 3 goals this season - he’s simply not good enough.Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:43 pmHe was also having to mark two players
We keep getting overloaded on the back post, and its a real concern
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Because his country don’t have any decent right backswarksclaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:04 pmI like him but appreciate he is not the finished product. No one on here can convince me that Maatsen and Vitinho are better defenders than Roberts . He does not shirk a challenge. Vitinho has greater skills but will never win a 50-50.The only consistent defender we have is THB who for me produces an 8 out of 10 on nearly all game, sometimes more.Beyer looks good but has only played a handful of games. WE need to get off Roberts's back. After all he is going to the World Cup in a few weeks and there is a reason he is there
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Re: Connor Roberts
Regardless of whether the header was good or bad the point was he headed it. He shouldn’t have to but the keeper was static and the 2 central defenders had gone awol, so despite back pedalling he managed to get something on it - good solid defending.deanothedino wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:19 pmThere’s some posters who seem to be incapable of seeing the fault in anything he does. His header for the second was woeful.
If you need to find someone to blame for the goal - look elsewhere.
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Re: Connor Roberts
I cannot believe people are criticising roberts for that 2nd goal. Completely ignoring the non entity of the ‘challenge’ by THB, Vitinho nowhere to be seen for the cross, THB taking up the LCB role instead of Taylor and the lack of closing down for the shot to the goal.
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Re: Connor Roberts
I think we need a league table:
2 points for the guilty party every time we concede,
1 point back for a goal assist to us,
2 for a goal scorer.
I am sure some posters will be able to fill it in retrospectively
2 points for the guilty party every time we concede,
1 point back for a goal assist to us,
2 for a goal scorer.
I am sure some posters will be able to fill it in retrospectively
Re: Connor Roberts
Where is Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee and Taylor, when you need them???
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Re: Connor Roberts
Good solid defending? You set the bar very low.SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2022 10:54 amRegardless of whether the header was good or bad the point was he headed it. He shouldn’t have to but the keeper was static and the 2 central defenders had gone awol, so despite back pedalling he managed to get something on it - good solid defending.
If you need to find someone to blame for the goal - look elsewhere.
I'd expect kids to make a better effort at that header and most would.
I'd apportion blame equally between him, JBG and Muric tbh.