Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:26 pm

Rileybobs wrote: [/i]4190854 user_id=1050]
You don’t describe a race of people as ‘blacks’.
He'll be calling them coloured next.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by NRC » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:26 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:39 am
The opposite of what Lawrenson stated re white, that's all. How else do you describe a certain ethnic status?
Ethnic status? Your question is just a shovel to dig your hole deeper.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by LDNBFC87 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:28 pm

Whinging sums him up perfectly - hence why he lost his job, the miserable b***** .

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:28 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:19 pm
How would you describe it, just out of interest?
I would personally use the term 'black people'. Who uses the term 'blacks' in 2022?

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by ashtonlongsider » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:28 pm

I also think Lawrenson's been an excellent pundit and co commentator. Always complementary to us and I think he'll be a sad loss. Don't think he's whinging, just highlighting the cold manner in which the BBC disposes of loyal employees.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:29 pm

Lawrenson was a waste of a salary. He needs to move on.
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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:29 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:28 pm
I would personally use the term 'black people'. Who uses the term 'blacks' in 2022?
It's incredible anyone thinks that is acceptable today,

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:29 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:28 pm
I would personally use the term 'black people'. Who uses the term 'blacks' in 2022?
What do you expect? This is a poster who thinks Barnes will get 20 goals this season!

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:42 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:19 pm
It's not illegal to not renew someone's contract.
You'd think it was after the way Bardsley and Pieters were whinging :roll:

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Stayingup » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:45 pm

He's retirement age but what he says is that was not the reason he was dismissed. He was a bit boring but goodness me where are we when we have got Matterface?
Lawrenson once sat next to me on a flight and we and he was fine. Preston fan he said.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:48 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:45 pm
He's retirement age but what he says is that was not the reason he was dismissed. He was a bit boring but goodness me where are we when we have got Matterface?
Lawrenson once sat next to me on a flight and we and he was fine. Preston fan he said.
He wasn't dismissed.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:50 pm

He should be a millionaire now and will have loads of options to carry on earning. The likes of him and Boycott need to move on and live their life.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by elwaclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:55 pm

Lancastrian’s complain of Lancastrian being dour shocker. I regret ML’s removal for the reason many of you are citing as a reason. He didn’t buy into the inane dribble and said it how he saw it.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Stayingup » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:56 pm

He was retirement age but he says thats not the reason he was dismissed. He does say the BBC is scared of doing anything to upset the Woke establishment. Well we know that.

Lawrenson not a bundle of fun but look at Matterface goodness me. At lkkeast Lawro played at the highest level and new the game. In fact I sat next to him on a flight some time ago (quite a while actually before BA became London Airline) and he was fine. Preston fan. As a matter of fact I have met quite a few sportsmen on flights mainly to the Far east. I recall putting Bobby Charloton's sugar in his tea because he was shaking a bit. Has anyone else met Sports people on flights?

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Stayingup » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:57 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:48 pm
He wasn't dismissed.
I've said it again below oops. What was it then? Sacked|? same thing? Relieved of his duties? same thing. Told to retire. Same thing.
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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Bosscat » Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:58 pm

Must admit am not one of Lawro's biggest fans but if its between him and "Jabba the Hutt" aka Garth Crooks give me Lawro any day

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:01 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:57 pm
I've said it again below oops. What was it then? Sacked|? same thing? Relieved of his duties? same thing. Told to retire. Same thing.
His contract wasn't renewed. Not the same thing in the slightest.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:02 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:57 pm
I've said it again below oops. What was it then? Sacked|? same thing? Relieved of his duties? same thing. Told to retire. Same thing.
He's self employed - not sure how anyone self employed and who has worked the system, is told to retire.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Hipper » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:04 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:04 am
And on the other side of the coin, that Saturday morning soccer show that Sky do, they have gone full on banter boy and its unwatchable rubbish

Maybe its just things are no longer as good as they used to be because the format has just aged too much?

It can sometimes be something other than something something something woke lefty stuff you know!
... or because it's not addressed to us old farts.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:15 pm

Hipper wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:04 pm
... or because it's not addressed to us old farts.
Essentially this

Times change, you either change with them, or you get left behind and start to say stuff like IanMc has said on here

Problem these days is that people don't want to change, and think everyone should like what they like, and that they can't understand why stuff changes, and its just easier to deal with it if you tell yourself it all lefty woke nonsense
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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by quoonbeatz » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:20 pm

Not sure what Matterface has got to do with it. He's a commentator for itv, which has always been shite.
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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by martin_p » Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:20 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:15 pm
Essentially this

Times change, you either change with them, or you get left behind and start to say stuff like IanMc has said on here

Problem these days is that people don't want to change, and think everyone should like what they like, and that they can't understand why stuff changes, and its just easier to deal with it if you tell yourself it all lefty woke nonsense
I presume it’s the same lefty woke nonsense that means Trevor McDonald and Moira Stuart are no longer reading the main news bulletins.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Oshkoshclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:19 pm

If Garth Crooks had kept his job then Lawro might have had a point. I think both of them were well past their sell by date.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:25 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
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He'd make the paint dry
Wait while he asks customers if they want decking

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by distortiondave » Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:27 pm

The most outrageous sign of PC and Woke and box ticking and all of that at the moment is in the new Lord of the Rings where Lenny Henry plays a pseudo hobbit. Lenny Henry, I mean come on. A Brummie?! Tolkien'd be turning in his grave.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by atlantalad » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:09 pm

Hipper wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:04 pm
... or because it's not addressed to us old farts.
Does anyone take issue with the term "old farts." Isn't this pejorative term as equally derogatory as using the ill-termed word above referring to a certain ethnicity? I may be "old" but, I am by no means a "fart". Maybe new terms are needed to differentiate degrees of "oldness" and let individuals decide which class best suits them, fart or not. Some people may have frequently used the term old fart in the past in reference to certain age groups and, over time, now genuinely believe they must be and consequently behave as an old fart.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:11 pm

atlantalad wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:09 pm
Does anyone take issue with the term "old farts." Isn't this pejorative term as equally derogatory as using the ill-termed word above referring to a certain ethnicity? I may be "old" but, I am by no means a "fart". Maybe new terms are needed to differentiate degrees of "oldness" and let individuals decide which class best suits them, fart or not. Some people may have frequently used the term old fart in the past in reference to certain age groups and, over time, now genuinely believe they must be and consequently behave as an old fart.
You are taking offence over someone using the term "old fart"?

Ok Boomer

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:14 pm

Oshkoshclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:19 pm
If Garth Crooks had kept his job then Lawro might have had a point. I think both of them were well past their sell by date.
Hold on, have they finally got rid of Crooks too?

Phew

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by atlantalad » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:14 pm

Merely embracing wokeness.
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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:33 pm

I think you'll find the likes of that IanMcl and atlantalad who refer to 'wokeness' are the ones offended by movements for equality.

Like I said earlier, I hope you never come into contact with our new signings, or my wife and son for that matter, who you would refer to as 'blacks' or 'black folk.'

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:34 pm

atlantalad wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:14 pm
Merely embracing wokeness.
I'm sure you can define for me what being woke is then?

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by BigChaCha » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:35 pm

I can't stand him but I am glad he has made a point and not given a cryptic statement like all the rest of the white middle-aged people sacked to be replaced by box tickers... I would disagree with his mention about him being a man though because it is also middle-aged white women being affected as well...

Put it this way, if I was white and middle-aged or older, working at one of the progressive TV stations, I would have been looking for another job before I was pushed a long time ago because it could not be more obvious!...

You would have to be a complete ignoramus or an ideological dullard, not to agree that the 'most well-known station in the UK' and the 'most well-known sports station in the UK', especially have been waging genocide on white middle-class presenters and in other positions.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Hibsclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:36 pm

You have to feel sorry for someone who has been paid shedloads of tax payers cash for being bang average at best over a period of 30 years. It’s incredible that they didn’t find anyone better many years ago just by picking out someone off the street and giving them a couple of training sessions.

This chap has been fed, watered and ferried to loads of World Cups and Euros etc, something that the average man can only dream about and still he whinges about it. As others have said he could just go quietly with a bit of class but there’s one thing we know about most Knobber fans which is that they have little class. We are Superior….

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:36 pm

* Double checks meaning of genocide *
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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:38 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:35 pm
I can't stand him but I am glad he has made a point and not given a cryptic statement like all the rest of the white middle-aged people sacked to be replaced by box tickers... I would disagree with his mention about him being a man though because it is also middle-aged white women being affected as well...

Put it this way, if I was white and middle-aged or older, working at one of the progressive TV stations, I would have been looking for another job before I was pushed a long time ago because it could not be more obvious!...

You would have to be a complete ignoramus or an ideological dullard, not to agree that the 'most well-known station in the UK' and the 'most well-known sports station in the UK', especially have been waging genocide on white middle-class presenters and in other positions.
I think using the word "genocide" in this context is a bit off

I used to assume that this post was a p**s take and I'd have had a good laugh at it, but a disturbing amount of posters on here genuinely think like this, and its more than a little alarming

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:38 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:36 pm
* Double checks meaning of genocide *
According to the Boomer dictionary, it means "you can get arrested for being English these days"

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:39 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:35 pm
I can't stand him but I am glad he has made a point and not given a cryptic statement like all the rest of the white middle-aged people sacked to be replaced by box tickers... I would disagree with his mention about him being a man though because it is also middle-aged white women being affected as well...

Put it this way, if I was white and middle-aged or older, working at one of the progressive TV stations, I would have been looking for another job before I was pushed a long time ago because it could not be more obvious!...

You would have to be a complete ignoramus or an ideological dullard, not to agree that the 'most well-known station in the UK' and the 'most well-known sports station in the UK', especially have been waging genocide on white middle-class presenters and in other positions.
Incredible. I feel sorry for you.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:59 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:29 pm
Lawrenson was a waste of a salary. He needs to move on.
Just like sky did........ You end up with the likes of Clinton Morrison....

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Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:04 pm

I agree Morrison is dreadful. Along with Murphy, Merson and Nevin.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by dougcollins » Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:44 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:27 pm
The most outrageous sign of PC and Woke and box ticking and all of that at the moment is in the new Lord of the Rings where Lenny Henry plays a pseudo hobbit. Lenny Henry, I mean come on. A Brummie?! Tolkien'd be turning in his grave.
You'd be surprised - he lived in Birmingham.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by distortiondave » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:09 pm

That's right, it's how he came up with the idea of Mordor and the orcs.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by IanMcL » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:10 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:33 pm
I think you'll find the likes of that IanMcl and atlantalad who refer to 'wokeness' are the ones offended by movements for equality.

Like I said earlier, I hope you never come into contact with our new signings, or my wife and son for that matter, who you would refer to as 'blacks' or 'black folk.'
Very insulting and as far from the truth as you can make up!

Equality is not an issue. Full opportunity, yes. Just don't automatically think that everything has to be this 'cross section'. Life is not like that. I have no issue with all black people on a programme, where they are the undoubted best. Just don't mix it all up on every prog, as this creates unnatural bias and often, not best.
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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:16 pm

As Ben Mee said about the use of such language ‘you’re clearly missing the point.’

You’re insulted by the use of your own language? Your original post was moderated mate. Probably says it all.

I’d be amazed if you used that language to any of our players or manager. It’s easy from your keyboard.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:16 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:04 pm
I agree Morrison is dreadful. Along with Murphy, Merson and Nevin.
Agree.... But other than Morrison they were already employed, but should be gone... Being a footballer doesn't make you good on TV, unfortunately the Tv stations haven't worked that out yet.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Cooclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:22 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:01 pm
His contract wasn't renewed. Not the same thing in the slightest.
This is a very important point. It happens to a lot of people but most importantly the players we watch every week.

Anyone going to be up in arms when Barnes is released at the end of his contract? Or are we going to say that that is really the right decision as we’ve moved on and doesn’t fit what we do anymore.

It’s a business decision and it’s the right one

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:47 pm

Just imagine the reaction if Barnes is replaced by ‘blacks’ or ‘black folk!’

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:49 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:47 pm
Just imagine the reaction if Barnes is replaced by ‘blacks’ or ‘black folk!’
Irrelevant point
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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:50 pm

Totally isn’t.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by helmclaret » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:55 pm

At the end of the day his time was up. He was useless and never provided any insight. He was looked after like royalty for 30 years. Go and do something else Mark and leave colour out of it.

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Re: Mark Lawrenson, whinging or has he a point ?

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:59 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:50 pm
Totally isn’t.
Elaborate then

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