Cardiff v Burnley match thread

jos · Post by **jos** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:57 pm

How disappointing

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:57 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:55 pm
Yep Barnes makes us worse every single time I’m afraid

He's given about 5 free kicks away and done very little else.

I would rather have one of Zaroury, Benson, Brownhill, Tella etc go down the middle as the sub for Jay (if we're protecting him) if Dervisoglu is unavailable.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:57 pm

2 dropped points - I’m back to bed 🫣

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:57 pm

Sloppy from everyone.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:57 pm

We're just not confident enough to see out narrow wins, these days.
Cheers for the company, folks.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:57 pm

That was w@@@

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm

Sick to ******* death of Barnes we may as well have ten men

LTUK89 · Post by **LTUK89** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm

Really poor performance. Kompany’s substitutions questionable again. Brownhill off for Bastien in the 88th achieved what?

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm

Soft touch defensively again

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm

I hate the way we play.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm

Wtf is Barnes doing seriously, led on the floor at the end when he would've been through on goal. Another 2 pts threw away at the end, like playing with 10 men with Barnes on the pitch im afraid.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm

Positieve substitutions but Benson & Zaroury didn’t ignite

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm

That was extremely poor.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm

Its a typical post international break performance. Lacking intensity, finesse and sharpness. Disappointing we couldn’t hold on as I thought we defended pretty well.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:59 pm

This is what having a team of short arses at the back gets ya.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:59 pm

Belgianclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm
Positieve substitutions but Benson & Zaroury didn’t ignite

Agree. Was crying out for them but they were poor no doubt.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:59 pm

Not a great game but a draw away at Cardiff isn't a bad result.
Not a great performance and seemed a bit sluggish.
Definitely looked worse after the substitutions.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:59 pm

To say kompany was a top defender we are useless defensively very poor overall,to a very poor Cardiff team

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:59 pm

Maatsen is never a defender, good going forward but he can't defend he needs dropping and Taylor out left Beyer in CD.

What the hell were we doing sitting back after our goal crap today

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:59 pm

Why is Barnes in the squad in favour of the striker on loan from Brentford Dervisoglu. I thought we had paved the way for him to not feature anymore by omitting him from the Bristol City game

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:00 pm

Very disappointing. We don't seem to be able to see a game out.

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:00 pm

Poorest game I've seen Maatsen play, responsible for their goal too imo. Not slating the lads, he's been fantastic and everyone ahs off days. Thought Taylor was immense at the back, just a tad frustrating to concede from their only real effort on goal again.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:00 pm

carbon copy to WBA away, Barnes comes on and we're instantly under the pump

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:00 pm

Considering we struggle with corners and crosses into the box we'll struggle to achieve anything until we get more commanding defenders, or goalkeeper.

We are conceding sloppy goals virtually every single game and until that issue gets sorted it doesn't matter how well the forward line plays.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:00 pm

4midable wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:57 pm
Barnes shouldnt make the bench
Put Zaroury up front

I thought Zaroury was a winger, but certainly the Turkish lad and even one of the youngsters couldn't offer less than Barnes does nowadays.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:01 pm

Annoying we've thrown more points away, and it is a concern we can't see out games these days after taking the lead.

Keeps our unbeaten run going, but we do need to learn how to turn these draws into wins if we're serious about chasing an automatic spot.

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:01 pm

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm
I hate the way we play.

Many things to have a go at today the way we play should not even be on the list

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:01 pm

Lets bring SD back as our defensive coach

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:01 pm

I would love to know what Kompany is seeing in Barnes. I presume in training he sets the world on fire. That said Jay Rod was quiet today as were others

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:02 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:00 pm
Considering we struggle with corners and crosses into the box we'll struggle to achieve anything until we get more commanding defenders, or goalkeeper.

We are conceding sloppy goals virtually every single game and until that issue gets sorted it doesn't matter how well the forward line plays.

Our two best players were out cbs

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:02 pm

Safron wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:59 pm
To say kompany was a top defender we are useless defensively very poor overall,to a very poor Cardiff team

Think that's why we'll struggle to make the top two this season

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:02 pm

Is Dervisoglu (sp) injured?

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:02 pm

Gwt used to this lads. We look incapable of keeping many clean sheets so if we don't score more than once we will draw more

LTUK89 · Post by **LTUK89** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:02 pm

Thought Muric was poor for the goal. Looked like he was more worried about the post than saving the header. He’s proper pap.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:03 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:00 pm
carbon copy to WBA away, Barnes comes on and we're instantly under the pump

Yup completely lost any kind of control or threat we had.

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:03 pm

People like to draw parallels between Dyche and Kompany and praise how good we've been this season, but today we were really poor after taking the league. Literally parked the bus for 30 minutes. At least we usually got away with it during Dyche's era but at the moment we just can't hold onto the lead.

Positives from today: Taylor who looked comfortable and had a lot of clearances and interceptions. Cork is so calm and has that touch of experience whenever he's near the ball. Good to see Tella on the scoresheet.

jackmiggins · Post by **jackmiggins** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:03 pm

Has someone ‘pulled’ this game?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:04 pm

LTUK89 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:02 pm
Thought Muric was poor for the goal. Looked like he was more worried about the post than saving the header. He’s proper pap.

I think you've blamed Muric for every goal we've conceded so far this season so not surprised you're blaming him again.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:04 pm

Mentally and physically weak again. Hope VK has a plan B cos his Plan A won’t get us promoted

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:04 pm

You just knew it was coming. That’s all I have to say.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:05 pm

LTUK89 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:02 pm
Thought Muric was poor for the goal. Looked like he was more worried about the post than saving the header. He’s proper pap.

Absolute bllx

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:05 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:02 pm
Our two best players were out cbs

I agree. The main problem for us today, especially after the subs was the fact that we couldn't retain the ball at all. I'm curious to see stats from last 15 or 10, it genuinely looked like we couldn't get near Cardiff players. If you allow them to make 10 dangerous crosses, there's a big chance one of them goes in.

claretcarrot93 · Post by **claretcarrot93** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:06 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:04 pm
I think you've blamed Muric for every goal we've conceded so far this season so not surprised you're blaming him again.

Muric has been good Blackpool apart. Some of Our fans don't like a goalkeeper who can play a bit

LTUK89 · Post by **LTUK89** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:06 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:03 pm
Yup completely lost any kind of control or threat we had.

I think it’s harsh on Barnes to be honest. Making 3 subs at the same time when you’re one nil up is absolutely bonkers. You might be able to make 5 subs a game now but it doesn’t mean you have to. Totally breaks up any sort of rhythm or feel for the game that the side has. Kompany needs to give his head a wobble.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:06 pm

Brownhill is not a number 10, I repeat Brownhill is not a number 10.
Barnes is not good enough to feature.
Tella had plenty in the tank, stop bringing him off when he has more to offer.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:06 pm

Murger wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:02 pm
Is Dervisoglu (sp) injured?

I can only assume so, but if he isn't it's baffling how Barnes is preferred over him.

jen1066 · Post by **jen1066** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:07 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:06 pm
I can only assume so, but if he isn't it's baffling how Barnes is preferred over him.

Dervisoglu is injured.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:09 pm

ervi34 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:05 pm
I agree. The main problem for us today, especially after the subs was the fact that we couldn't retain the ball at all. I'm curious to see stats from last 15 or 10, it genuinely looked like we couldn't get near Cardiff players. If you allow them to make 10 dangerous crosses, there's a big chance one of them goes in.

The whole team seemed to drop 15-20 yards deeper and allow Cardiff to attack, no idea why because we cannot defend.

At Huddersfield we saw an insane high press, strangled the absolute life out of them and made them boot it long and give us the ball back. That off the ball running/pressing high seems to have faded drastically.

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:09 pm

By the way, do you remember how we controlled the last 10 minutes away at Huddersfield? We were 1-0 up but rarely allowed them to touch the ball. Compare that to today's display.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:09 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:58 pm
Its a typical post international break performance. Lacking intensity, finesse and sharpness. Disappointing we couldn’t hold on as I thought we defended pretty well.

No coincidence how often we do this. Even with a completely new set up.