Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

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Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by MT03ALG » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:40 pm

I note that the Pendle M.P. Andrew Stephenson has written to the EFL asking for the league to reconsider their decision to play the above game on Sunday 13 November at 12 noon. Any chance the date and/or time will be changed ?

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:58 pm

Better to just move remembrance Sunday to the week after when we're playing on the Saturday.
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:00 pm

Would have thought he was too busy supporting the tanking of our economy to waste time on this sort of virtue signalling.
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:01 pm

MT03ALG wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:40 pm
I note that the Pendle M.P. Andrew Stephenson has written to the EFL asking for the league to reconsider their decision to play the above game on Sunday 13 November at 12 noon. Any chance the date and/or time will be changed ?
What is his rationale? There must be lots of derby games that have taken place on remembrance sunday.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:03 pm

Good to see Tubbs in action.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:50 am

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:01 pm
What is his rationale? There must be lots of derby games that have taken place on remembrance sunday.
His rationale is that it provides a nice populist distraction from the shambles his leader is currently presiding over. The irony isn’t lost that a man and a party that are so against ‘virtue signalling’ are engaging in a perfect example of it.
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Spiral » Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:14 am

If you go on 'they work for you' you'll find that his voting record is...ahem...*checks notes*...whatever the prime minister of the day tells him to vote for, making him not so much a representative of his constituents, but rather a brainless head to be counted in the Palace of Westminster voting lobby whenever the govt needs a vote passed.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Beagle » Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:29 am

It’s inconvenient and unfortunate but it’s been set now, meaning people have booked the day of work, booked flights and put other travel/social plans in place. Moving it again would be a bigger inconvenience and frankly taking the ****.
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:08 am

How many of the people complaining would actually go to the remembrance service?
I've been to a few and they're not that well attended

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by ClaretDiver » Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:54 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:08 am
How many of the people complaining would actually go to the remembrance service?
I've been to a few and they're not that well attended
One of the arguments is that a lot of the people on duty that day, police, ambo’s etc might want to take part in services and now won’t be able to….

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:28 am

Zero chance of it being moved now. And the descriptions of Mr Stephenson are perfect, a spineless yes man who does exactly as he's told.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by box_of_frogs » Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:40 am

I fail to see what the issue is? 1100 is our nations act of remembrance, and that’s what I’ll do. The match is at 1200, and I’ll also watch that.

Perhaps people can stop moaning about absolutely everything.

Replies saying I’m a disgrace will only be accepted from other people who have also fought in 2 wars and accumulated more than 22 years service for their country.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:27 am

Noon kickoffs on a Sunday are always difficult for a good number of us.
Noon on Remembrance Sunday is particularly disappointing, since it's Parade Sunday, and one of the few services in the year when the church is packed with all the uniformed organisations.
Personally I think it's important that young people attend ceremonies of this type and observe the silence and last post.
Sadly I think that there will be many missing this year.
Of course the consolation is that I expect there to be a silence etc before the match.
This will be a real challenge for some supporters of both teams, given the fixture, but hopefully the silence will be impeccably and respectfully observed.
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by 4midable » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:02 am

Hope he gets told where to go

11am pay your respects
12pm get behind the lads
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by basil6345789 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:55 pm

Should be played later in the day.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:15 pm

basil6345789 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:55 pm
Should be played later in the day.
Really?

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:25 pm

basil6345789 wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:55 pm
Should be played later in the day.
It should have been scheduled for say 2pm Sunday, but you can't switch it now. People have trains etc booked. It is what it is

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:28 pm

Might be time the club to get some gold stars ⭐️ put televisions around the ground and in the fanzone etc utc

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Cheshireclaret » Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:07 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:25 pm
It should have been scheduled for say 2pm Sunday, but you can't switch it now. People have trains etc booked. It is what it is
I'm afraid if you think any of the authorities involved in the organising and hosting of football matches, whether it be the governing body, the TV companies or the police, give a stuff about whether the ordinary football fan might incur costs or be put at a massive inconvenience by switching fixture times and dates at short notice, then you are very, very much mistaken.

Any decision on this matter will be taken without any regard whatsoever for the ordinary football fan.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Nori1958 » Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:31 am

Cheshireclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:07 pm
I'm afraid if you think any of the authorities involved in the organising and hosting of football matches, whether it be the governing body, the TV companies or the police, give a stuff about whether the ordinary football fan might incur costs or be put at a massive inconvenience by switching fixture times and dates at short notice, then you are very, very much mistaken.

Any decision on this matter will be taken without any regard whatsoever for the ordinary football fan.
There are some very good reasons why this game is always an early kick off, mostly down to fans behaviour. It will always be played at the earliest time possible, even if not scheduled for TV

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Leisure » Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:06 am

EFL Enquiries <enquiries@efl.com>
Hello John

Thank you for your email, we acknowledge your views regarding this fixture.

As you will understand, via our broadcast partners, Sky Sports, a number of Championship games are selected for broadcast in designated slots across the season. As with all fixture changes, the kick-off time for Burnley v Blackburn Rovers was considered and approved by all parties including both clubs, the EFL and local police.

We should add that time will be taken at the match to give those in attendance the chance to pay their respects to servicemen and women affected by wars past and present, as has been done in previous matches played at this time for many years.

Thank you for contacting the EFL.

Kind Regards

Andrew

Supporter Services Department

EFL

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:26 am

A minutes silence and the playing of The Last Post will be an absolute disaster for this match. Whilst 99% of supporters (both sides) will respectfully observe this there are just too many ****heads who will spoil it and embarrass themselves and the clubs. Could we not do this before the cup match with Crawley instead?

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Post by claret2018 » Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:34 am

Or just stop the minutes silence at the football altogether. You can go to the cenotaph if that’s your thing.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by daveisaclaret » Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:36 am

I accept there'll be plenty of people at the match capable of bad behaviour but I don't understand the profile of someone who would be in that bracket and want to disrespect this minute's silence at all. It will be observed fine.
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Post by 4midable » Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:38 am

Leisure wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:06 am
EFL Enquiries <enquiries@efl.com>
Hello John

Thank you for your email, we acknowledge your views regarding this fixture.

As you will understand, via our broadcast partners, Sky Sports, a number of Championship games are selected for broadcast in designated slots across the season. As with all fixture changes, the kick-off time for Burnley v Blackburn Rovers was considered and approved by all parties including both clubs, the EFL and local police.

We should add that time will be taken at the match to give those in attendance the chance to pay their respects to servicemen and women affected by wars past and present, as has been done in previous matches played at this time for many years.

Thank you for contacting the EFL.

Kind Regards

Andrew

Supporter Services Department

EFL
Good on you Andrew

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:46 am

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:34 am
Or just stop the minutes silence at the football altogether. You can go to the cenotaph if that’s your thing.
Seems a bit knee-jerk to something that happens every year and has done for a number of years....whether "that's your thing" or not.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:05 am

EFL release statement in regard to the Burnley v Blackburn Rovers game

The EFL have released the following statement in regard to the Burnley v Blackburn Rovers game.

Following further discussions between the League, Burnley and Blackburn Rovers, Sky Sports, and the Lancashire Police, it has now been agreed that the Sky Bet Championship fixture between Burnley and Blackburn Rovers will kick-off at 12:30pm on 13 November.

There had been some concerns raised that the original re-arranged 12 noon kick-off time was too near to the start of Remembrance Day Services and in some circumstances, would prevent some supporters from being able to attend.

The move is intended to provide an opportunity to go to both events if so desired and, as with previous matches scheduled on Remembrance Sunday over the years, time will be taken at the match to give those in attendance the chance to pay their respects to servicemen and women affected by wars past and present.

A pre-match ceremony will be held at Turf Moor, with a Bugler present alongside the laying of a wreath

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by burnley007 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:15 am

I thought football wasn't a place for politics?

That's what the anti BLM folks tell me all the time.

so...is it now a place for politics again? I'm confused.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:37 am

It's only ok when people like what it stands for

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:38 am

It seems to me that the police want things to go wrong to justify a return to bubble matches.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:40 am

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:15 am
I thought football wasn't a place for politics?

That's what the anti BLM folks tell me all the time.

so...is it now a place for politics again? I'm confused.
It was a tradition, but in recent years the remembrance Sunday thing has turned in to an annual dick waving competition of who can pay their respects more. BLM had no place in football, and if traditions need to be scrapped to accommodate that then so be it.

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Post by martin_p » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:44 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:40 am
It was a tradition, but in recent years the remembrance Sunday thing has turned in to an annual dick waving competition of who can pay their respects more. BLM had no place in football, and if traditions need to be scrapped to accommodate that then so be it.
Tradition? Don’t think so. Football ignored the whole remembrance thing for years and no one batted an eye lid.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:49 am

So the new attack line from the anti-BLM lot is that "Look, we are going to have to cancel Remembrance Sunday so we can cancel BLM protests"

Honestly, how mad do you have to be not to think that sounds completely mental?

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by claret2018 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:53 am

The annual “look at us aren’t we remembering really hard” needs to stop. Scrap the silence, the poppy shirts and the shoulders at cup finals. It’s all very American having a close link between sports and the military.
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Post by Granny WeatherWax » Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:58 am

Is there anything the usual suspects cant turn into a thread that will end up getting locked, its becoming really tiresome, its an absolute cesspit on here at times.
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:01 am

The need to be seen as edgy is as strong as ever I see

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Nori1958 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:02 am

I take it there will now be thousands attending remembrance services in the area, and not just having another pint in the pub.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:04 am

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by claret2018 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:10 am

claret2018 wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:53 am
The annual “look at us aren’t we remembering really hard” needs to stop. Scrap the silence, the poppy shirts and the shoulders at cup finals. It’s all very American having a close link between sports and the military.
lol at shoulders, I meant soldiers

Playing a cup final without shoulders would be difficult

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:11 am

claret2018 wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:10 am
lol at shoulders, I meant soldiers

Playing a cup final without shoulders would be difficult
Shoulderless football sounds interesting.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:13 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:40 am
It was a tradition, but in recent years the remembrance Sunday thing has turned in to an annual dick waving competition of who can pay their respects more. BLM had no place in football, and if traditions need to be scrapped to accommodate that then so be it.
FAO Granny Weatherwax

This is the post you need to quote if you are being serious about moaning at posters who are ruining the board

You appear not to have quoted it and I'd be interested to know why you haven't

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Bosscat » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:14 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:11 am
Shoulderless football sounds interesting.
Have you seen the timing of your post C&J ... was it meant to be at 11.11am 😉 if so Chapeau well and truly doffed monsieur 🤣

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:15 am

Bosscat wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:14 am
Have you seen the timing of your post C&J ... was it meant to be at 11.11am 😉 if so Chapeau well and truly doffed monsieur 🤣
Depends whether you really believe I'm that clever, Bosscat :D
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:18 am

Just for the record

Think the Remembrance day things at football should stay

Have no issue with BLM stuff

Not hard is it?
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:25 am

I personally think there is a huge difference between a once annual act of remembrance and a weekly taking of the knee, a gesture that rightly or wrongly had other connotations due to its historical use.

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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:32 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:25 am
I personally think there is a huge difference between a once annual act of remembrance and a weekly taking of the knee, a gesture that rightly or wrongly had other connotations due to its historical use.
Well, as there is no longer any weekly taking of the knee, you should be chuffed to bits

I had no problem with it, and all it did to me was highlight the posters on here who have clear issues that normal people don't have
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by Devils_Advocate » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:39 am

Even Brexit hardman and ERG zealot Steve Baker understands what footballers taking the knee was really all about

https://twitter.com/nadinebh_/status/15 ... YaUkw&s=19
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by NottsClaret » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:54 am

I'd love to have a 4pm kick off one year. Pay the police whatever they want, maybe the same as they get for doing the Manchester derby, and crack on.

Early kick offs are rubbish, the atmosphere is usually terrible. OK, it all went wrong in the end, on and off the pitch, but we've never come close to the atmosphere in 2000 since.
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Re: Burnley v Rovers at 12 noon on Remembrance Sunday

Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:55 am

Entirely correct.

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