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Re: Coventry City

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:08 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:26 pm
One of my dads school mates moved to Coventry and we went to visit some time in the 60s. His son was a fanatical Coventry fan and took great delight in how they recently battered us 4-1. I have never seen them as a plastic club and feel sad for how their club has been ruined.

I also remember being at Highfield Road when we beat them 3-0 with the Jimmy Adamson super team in the 70s. I thought it was then an all seater stadium but could be wrong.
March 1975 and had Arsenal got something from their game with Everton we'd have gone top of the league. We were there and it was not all seater.
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Re: Coventry City

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:04 pm

It wasn't All -Seater later that year either, when we won that 'rough' encounter 2-1.
But pretty sure they were one of the first grounds to put seats all over, when Jimmy Hill was chairman.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by Rowls » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:06 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:04 pm
It wasn't All -Seater later that year either, when we won that 'rough' encounter 2-1.
But pretty sure they were one of the first grounds to put seats all over, when Jimmy Hill was chairman.
They did.

Then Leeds fans ripped them up so terrace was reinstated until all-seaters became mandatory later in the 90s.

But for a short period it was the first all-seater in the country.
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Re: Coventry City

Post by Rowls » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:06 pm

expoultryboy wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:03 pm
Good move from Ashley , and probably the best move for Coventry fans .
That's DA's line.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by Buxtonclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:08 pm

Rowls wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:06 pm
They did.

Then Leeds fans ripped them up so terrace was reinstated until all-seaters became mandatory later in the 90s.

But for a short period it was the first all-seater in the country.
Do you know, I vaguely remember that now you've mentioned it.
Jimmy's chin would have gone purple! :D

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Re: Coventry City

Post by KRBFC » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:11 pm

Who actually owned the stadium to sell it to Mike Ashley?

Strange they didn't sell it to Coventry (who bid more than Ashley)

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Re: Coventry City

Post by bfcmik » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:14 pm

I was told today by a Cov fan that the club owe a lot of back rent for the ground and are trying to defer payments for the debt whilst also trying to renegotiate the amount they pay downwards. I think Ashley and CCFC are playing brinkmanship tbh

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Re: Coventry City

Post by RVclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:17 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:11 pm
Who actually owned the stadium to sell it to Mike Ashley?

Strange they didn't sell it to Coventry (who bid more than Ashley)
Too late in their bid weren’t they?

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Re: Coventry City

Post by NewClaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:24 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:14 pm
I was told today by a Cov fan that the club owe a lot of back rent for the ground and are trying to defer payments for the debt whilst also trying to renegotiate the amount they pay downwards. I think Ashley and CCFC are playing brinkmanship tbh
That’s interesting.

I had no idea Ashley owned the stadium until I read it today, but piecing that together my gut feel is that Ashley wants to put them in to Admin to pick them up in the cheap?

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Re: Coventry City

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:29 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:17 pm
Too late in their bid weren’t they?
They've got no money.
Wages to turnover is 111%
They don't generate much via player sales, we've made more in one sale (Wood) than they did for a decade.
They've got debts of just under £40 million.

They just don't have the money to buy and maintain the stadium, unless they've got a rich owner to do it for them

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... w7h3Q&s=19

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Re: Coventry City

Post by KRBFC » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:29 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:17 pm
Too late in their bid weren’t they?
Not too sure mate. Just seems odd they would sell to Ashley and not the club.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by KRBFC » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:30 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:29 pm
They've got no money.
Wages to turnover is 111%
They don't generate much via player sales, we've made more in one sale (Wood) than they did for a decade.
They've got debts of just under £40 million.

They just don't have the money to buy and maintain the stadium, unless they've got a rich owner to do it for them

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... w7h3Q&s=19
Do we know the financial situation of the new owners though? supposedly bid £25m for the stadium after taking over.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by RVclaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:37 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:30 pm
Do we know the financial situation of the new owners though? supposedly bid £25m for the stadium after taking over.
Don’t think they are the new owners yet, there’s been appeals on the legalities of the takeover and it’s currently sat with the EFL. But yeah they did say that.
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Re: Coventry City

Post by welsbyswife » Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:49 pm

Seems a terrible situation for the fans. If the club and Ashley are playing brinkmanship as someone suggested neither of them have a particularly strong hand!! He owns a stadium with no obvious alternative use and they are skint! That part of Coventry isn't the best so I can' imagine there would be any money in redevelopment, even if he could get planning permission, which is likely to be difficult anyway because I would imagine the stadium is likely to be allocated in the Local Plan for its given purpose.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by Goalposts » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:06 pm

Evicted from there ground by the new owners

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ce-stadium

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Re: Coventry City

Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:16 pm

Whilst I’m not sure it would be sustainable without the football, there is a lot more to the Ricoh than the football alone. It’s a huge complex with all kinds of facilities included.

I have little sympathy for Coventry, their fans were appalling in celebrating Wasps demise. I think I posted on here that I found it odd seeing as they were their landlords and so it could cause them major issues.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by NewClaret » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:24 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:06 pm
Evicted from there ground by the new owners

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ce-stadium
Reading that, it’s clear brinkmanship - they want them to sign a deal they can’t/won’t.

Hope they find an alternative and move out for a while. Hate Ashley.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by welsbyswife » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:07 am

Somewhat ironically Wasps plays at Darlington on Saturday at the doomed arena built by that crook George Reynolds. Would serve Ashley right if his games backfired and he ends up with a similar white elephant on his hands.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by Quicknick » Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:31 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:16 pm
Whilst I’m not sure it would be sustainable without the football, there is a lot more to the Ricoh than the football alone. It’s a huge complex with all kinds of facilities included.

I have little sympathy for Coventry, their fans were appalling in celebrating Wasps demise. I think I posted on here that I found it odd seeing as they were their landlords and so it could cause them major issues.
How did the Cov City fans celebrate Wasps' demise?

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Re: Coventry City

Post by Mattster » Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:43 am

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:11 pm
Who actually owned the stadium to sell it to Mike Ashley?

Strange they didn't sell it to Coventry (who bid more than Ashley)
Arena Coventry Limited who were in administration, Ashley/Fraser Group put in £1.2m to keep them running (allowing Coventry to have somewhere to play whilst this was ongoing) and secure preferred bidder status.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:08 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:31 am
How did the Cov City fans celebrate Wasps' demise?
Check out the comments here….

https://twitter.com/waspsrugby/status/1 ... pSKOAu1h_g

Sometimes, life comes at you fast!
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Re: Coventry City

Post by Quicknick » Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:35 pm

Relax, drink Stella, you know it'll make you feel better. Haha.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:15 pm

Some of those comments have not aged well at all :lol:

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Re: Coventry City

Post by claptrappers_union » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:57 am

Coventry City have signed a new rental deal that will allow them to continue playing at the CBS Arena until the end of the season.

The Championship side were given an eviction notice on December 5 by the stadium’s new owners, Mike Ashley’s Frasers Group – meaning a new licence had to be agreed.
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Re: Coventry City

Post by IanMcL » Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:37 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:08 pm
March 1975 and had Arsenal got something from their game with Everton we'd have gone top of the league. We were there and it was not all seater.
I remember Jimmy Hill made a thing about making it the first all seater using the terraces etc for seating. Higher prices but best seats for away fans, comes to mind. Anyone refresh my memory?

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Re: Coventry City

Post by thehistorylecturer2 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:43 pm

Highfield Road was initially all seater between 1981 and 1985 .. putting seats in reduced the capacity from 36500 to around 20500 and went down like a lead balloon in Coventry.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:13 pm

thehistorylecturer2 wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:43 pm
Highfield Road was initially all seater between 1981 and 1985 .. putting seats in reduced the capacity from 36500 to around 20500 and went down like a lead balloon in Coventry.
They won the FA cup in '87 and stayed in the PL until the 2000's. Hardly a lead balloon.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by thehistorylecturer2 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:16 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:13 pm
They won the FA cup in '87 and stayed in the PL until the 2000's. Hardly a lead balloon.
The decision to make Highfield Road all seater was extremely unpopular amongst Sky Blues fans so yes a lead balloon - not entirely sure what point you’re making by the way?
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Re: Coventry City

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:17 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:13 pm
They won the FA cup in '87 and stayed in the PL until the 2000's. Hardly a lead balloon.
I suspect he means that the decision to go all-seater went down like a lead balloon with their fans, not their form.
As you say, they stayed in the top division for well over 30 years, although having gone down they've never looked like coming back.
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Re: Coventry City

Post by thehistorylecturer2 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:24 pm

Indeed the average gate at Highfield Road went down by around 5,000 between 80/81 and 81/82 as Mr Hill bumped
ST prices up considerably over the summer of 1981 , though gates did improve again in subsequent years .

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Re: Coventry City

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:25 pm

thehistorylecturer2 wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:16 pm
The decision to make Highfield Road all seater was extremely unpopular amongst Sky Blues fans so yes a lead balloon - not entirely sure what point you’re making by the way?
Apologies, I misread your post as they dropped like a lead balloon as a result of going all-seater.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by thehistorylecturer2 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:26 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:25 pm
Apologies, I misread your post as they dropped like a lead balloon as a result of going all-seater.
No worries

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Re: Coventry City

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:26 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:17 pm
I suspect he means that the decision to go all-seater went down like a lead balloon with their fans, not their form.
As you say, they stayed in the top division for well over 30 years, although having gone down they've never looked like coming back.
They've been much closer to going bust than they have returning to the top flight.
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Re: Coventry City

Post by thehistorylecturer2 » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:45 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:26 pm
They've been much closer to going bust than they have returning to the top flight.
True .. they sold Highfield Road to clear debt but look at the state of them again now . I can’t even begin to understand what is going on down there at the moment .

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Re: Coventry City

Post by Quicknick » Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:24 am

thehistorylecturer2 wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:24 pm
Indeed the average gate at Highfield Road went down by around 5,000 between 80/81 and 81/82 as Mr Hill bumped
ST prices up considerably over the summer of 1981 , though gates did improve again in subsequent years .
I remember them winning the second division in 1966-67. They got some huge crowds at Highfield Road. I went to their match at Ewood. Really big following. 1-0. Bobby Gould got their winner in front of a Blackburn End packed full of them. Of course, this was the away end then.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by thehistorylecturer2 » Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:52 am

Yes some big crowds during their promotion season and first few years in the topflight .. declined in the 70s and 80s in tandem with a general fall in attendances everywhere but particularly so in the Midlands during a period of rapid deindustrialisation

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Re: Coventry City

Post by Hipper » Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:33 pm

Coventry get a suspended points deduction:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64066705

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Re: Coventry City

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:36 pm

Pleased it's been suspended, it's hardly their fault that Wasps allowed so much rugby to be played on it

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Re: Coventry City

Post by Carwin261 » Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:41 pm

Could be a good outside bent for promotion,if they win their game in hand they’ll be 5th.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:37 pm

Seems a long time ago that Paul Fletcher was being lorded as a genius for his work on the move out of Highfield Road to his new age stadium. I think Alan Stevenson also played a commercial director roll there, but admit I may be mis-remembering him at Coventry.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:05 pm

Just announced that the Doug King takeover has been completed.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:09 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:37 pm
Seems a long time ago that Paul Fletcher was being lorded as a genius for his work on the move out of Highfield Road to his new age stadium. I think Alan Stevenson also played a commercial director roll there, but admit I may be mis-remembering him at Coventry.
Paul Fletcher joined Coventry City after they moved out of Highfield Road
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Re: Coventry City

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:22 pm

Coventry is a decent club. Highfield Rd was a proper ground. The only thing I have against them is their connection with Jimmy Hill and his proposal to abolish the maximum wage which was the starting point for the ridiculous wages we now see.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:24 pm

Whilst Fletcher didn’t join the board at Coventry until they moved in he was certainly involved in the construction of their new ground.
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Re: Coventry City

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:25 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:22 pm
Coventry is a decent club. Highfield Rd was a proper ground. The only thing I have against them is their connection with Jimmy Hill and his proposal to abolish the maximum wage which was the starting point for the ridiculous wages we now see.
If Hill hadn't started that ball rolling someone else would have.
I wouldn't take issue with Coventry City FC over it.

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Re: Coventry City

Post by cbx750 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:09 pm
Paul Fletcher joined Coventry City after they moved out of Highfield Road
https://www.paulfletcher.co.uk/stadiums/

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Re: Coventry City

Post by basil6345789 » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:42 pm

What's a Number 10 - like Jimmy Robbo?

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Re: Coventry City

Post by martin_p » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:46 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:22 pm
Coventry is a decent club. Highfield Rd was a proper ground. The only thing I have against them is their connection with Jimmy Hill and his proposal to abolish the maximum wage which was the starting point for the ridiculous wages we now see.
It was Bosman that started the wage spiral.
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Re: Coventry City

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:55 pm

martin_p wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:46 pm
It was Bosman that started the wage spiral.
Didn't Bosman start the freedom of contract thing rather than the abolition of the maximum wage?

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Re: Coventry City

Post by martin_p » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:01 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:55 pm
Didn't Bosman start the freedom of contract thing rather than the abolition of the maximum wage?
It did, but it put the power in the hands of the players rather than the clubs meaning that wages became more important than transfer fees. Rather than clubs auction players for the best fee players auction themselves for the best wage.

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