Scottish football to reduce heading during training

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Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:32 am

https://twitter.com/MailSport/status/15 ... 57Qcw&s=19

No heading the day before or after games and a reduction in training overall.

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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by pompeyclaret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:46 am

Not an expert in this area, but there is clearly a link between heading and dementia/ brain related injuries in footballers.

However, how much of them are due to older heavier balls? Do players header less now we have carpet like pitches and play on the deck more?

If heading has such related injuries, would it get to the point you couldn't header at all?

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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:53 am

We won't know the impact on footballers from the last 20-30 yrs for a while yet, but they're aiming to bring it right down outside of match day so the chances of former players suffering later in life is reduced.
Also, the lighter balls can be hit harder and move faster so whilst the ball may be lighter, it's hitting heads at higher speeds, potentially causing as much damage as a heavier ball.

If you think about it, kids are heading the ball a lot and this has carried on into adulthood.

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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by 1882Clarets1882 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:34 pm

In his day, Big Duncan Ferguson would have been told to stop head butting other players.
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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by Bosscat » Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:15 pm

1882Clarets1882 wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:34 pm
In his day, Big Duncan Ferguson would have been told to stop head butting other players.
Or throwing a fridge at scrotes robbing his gaff
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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:56 pm

I'm no expert, but many footballers who head the ball don't get dementia. It's also true that many people who've never headed a football in their lives do get dementia. It just smacks an overreaction.

The second point would be, IF there is a credible link, surely it's just an occupational hazard, much like the life threats Boxers and F1 drivers face. They know it exists, but wouldn't have it any other way .

There's a risk that in the future we sanitise the sport until its pointless playing it. People have the choice of whether they want to play, they shouldn't have that choice taken out of their hands.
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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by Volvoclaret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:18 pm

They stopped training in passing and shooting years ago
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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by Bosscat » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:22 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:18 pm
They stopped training in passing and shooting years ago
England. King Edward III banned football entirely in 1349, concerned that the game was distracting men from practising their archery.

Scotland. King James I of Scotland decreed that "Na man play at the fut ball" in the Football Act of 1424; a further act of parliament was passed under the rule of James II in 1457 which banned both football and golf. So the men could practise sword fighting and Archery.

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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by AfloatinClaret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:30 pm

An added concern must be the problem of footballers tending to have especially fragile heads, this may be down to diet, training or perhaps it's that the gene which makes you a good footballer also saddles you with a delicate bonce? It's certainly widespread through the profession though, just watching the world cup, I've noticed that whenever an opponents hand brushes or indeed even comes close to a players head, it's been agonising for them; it amazes me that any of them are able to head a ball at all the pain that generates must be huge.
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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by Volvoclaret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:35 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:22 pm
England. King Edward III banned football entirely in 1349, concerned that the game was distracting men from practising their archery.

Scotland. King James I of Scotland decreed that "Na man play at the fut ball" in the Football Act of 1424; a further act of parliament was passed under the rule of James II in 1457 which banned both football and golf. So the men could practise sword fighting and Archery.
King Charles III banned cricket in Yorkshire this year

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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by aggi » Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:49 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:56 pm
I'm no expert, but many footballers who head the ball don't get dementia. It's also true that many people who've never headed a football in their lives do get dementia. It just smacks an overreaction.

The second point would be, IF there is a credible link, surely it's just an occupational hazard, much like the life threats Boxers and F1 drivers face. They know it exists, but wouldn't have it any other way .

There's a risk that in the future we sanitise the sport until its pointless playing it. People have the choice of whether they want to play, they shouldn't have that choice taken out of their hands.
I think it's pretty clear you're no expert.

On your second point, I'd have a read of this https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/ ... ial-report

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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by Paul Waine » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:02 pm

Walking football, organised by Chelsea Foundation, today the warm up included a couple of games of football tennis. Heading the ball was allowed, so was running. Both heading and running are fouls in walking football rules.

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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by Stanbill05 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:21 pm

It will reduce head clashes and elbows and stray boots which are more likely the cause of lasting damage. Really struggle to believe modern footballs present the biggest risk these days. Every combat sports person and proper contact sports participant in the world is bang in trouble if a few headers a day make a significant difference.

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Re: Scottish football to reduce heading during training

Post by Lowbankclaret » Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:52 pm

Loads of ex players suffer from knee issues and struggle to walk.

Follow this issue to its logical end game.

You ban football altogether
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