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England v Wales

Post by RVclaret » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:07 pm

Final group game, hoping for a much better showing than against the US.

Topping the group means Senegal next, while 2nd place would mean the Netherlands.

Walker is in for Trippier, Henderson for Mount, Rashford and Foden for Saka and Sterling. Looks like it could be 4-2-3-1 with Bellingham advanced.

Roberts isn’t in the Wales 11.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by taio » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:13 pm

Good to see Foden and Rashford starting. Looking forward to this one.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by tiger76 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:19 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:07 pm
Final group game, hoping for a much better showing than against the US.

Topping the group means Senegal next, while 2nd place would mean the Netherlands.

Walker is in for Trippier, Henderson for Mount, Rashford and Foden for Saka and Sterling. Looks like it could be 4-2-3-1 with Bellingham advanced.

Roberts isn’t in the Wales 11.
Yes just seen your thread, if England play as they can they'll emerge fairly comfortable victors.

I'm not sure if there's much between Senegal/Netherlands but I guess we'd rather face the Former than the latter.

England will qualify tonight but we really do need to respond to the US setback and deliver a strong showing.

Walker makes sense given the pace Wales possess, Henderson showed enough in his 20 mins against the US to deserve the nod, and his experience will be vital, Foden and Rashford are both eager to push for a start so up to them to show what they can offer.

Roberts probably misses out due to Wales reverting to a back 4.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by 4midable » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:35 pm

Wales 1 nil

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Re: England v Wales

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:42 pm

1-1

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Claretitus » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:44 pm

Come on England. Let’s put this mob on the next plane out of Qatar. I’m sick of the BBC love in for Wales. Do you think BBC Wales will be bulling England up like we are with Wales? Just turned on the telly to see about 10 mins of the sheep worriers, singing choral songs, telling us they are more passionate than us, blah blah blah. Southgate should just show a video of em jumping up and down like spoilt kids in 2016 when England lost to Iceland. COME ON ENGLAND!!!!

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Shaggy » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:45 pm

Cmon the taffs

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Volvoclaret » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:47 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:45 pm
Cmon the taffs
Is your second name sheep.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by expoultryboy » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:47 pm

At least 3 -0 England .

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Re: England v Wales

Post by expoultryboy » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:48 pm

Shaun Shaggy

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Re: England v Wales

Post by 4midable » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:48 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:47 pm
Is your second name sheep.
Shaggy sheep?

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Shaggy » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:49 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:47 pm
Is your second name sheep.
:lol:

Nope just don’t want England to win would rather one of the other UK nations got the win. We are after all part of a union of nations

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Re: England v Wales

Post by fatboy47 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:50 pm

It's being hyped up to buggery by ITV and BBC on my TV.

In reality it should be a total mismatch....and pretty much a foregone conclusion. A Wales win may be the best result...anything to give our utterly over-hyped over-rated squad a kick up the arse/wake up call.

In terms of quality/resources it's probably something akin to Padiham playing Burnley on Turf Moor needing a 4-0 win to upset us. England should be giving Wales an absolute lubeless bumming, but I expect a drab soulless victory with the TV companies going into full hype mode for the next few days.
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Re: England v Wales

Post by Ampth7 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:57 pm

I will take any positive outcome (win) for England, but more importantly is how we approach the game and the quality of the performance overall.
We surely can’t be any worse than the US game……can we?

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Ampth7 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:59 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:50 pm
It's being hyped up to buggery by ITV and BBC on my TV.

In reality it should be a total mismatch....and pretty much a foregone conclusion. A Wales win may be the best result...anything to give our utterly over-hyped over-rated squad a kick up the arse/wake up call.

In terms of quality/resources it's probably something akin to Padiham playing Burnley on Turf Moor needing a 4-0 win to upset us. England should be giving Wales an absolute lubeless bumming, but I expect a drab soulless victory with the TV companies going into full hype mode for the next few days.
🤣 that’s tickled me that has 😂🤣

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:59 pm

No good picking dynamic players, unless they are asked to play dynamic football. Playing Southgate ball is just putting a shackle on our talent.

It's all about the performance, if we go for it, no problem, if we don't get on the front foot I hope we lose.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by KRBFC » Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:59 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:50 pm
It's being hyped up to buggery by ITV and BBC on my TV.

In reality it should be a total mismatch....and pretty much a foregone conclusion. A Wales win may be the best result...anything to give our utterly over-hyped over-rated squad a kick up the arse/wake up call.

In terms of quality/resources it's probably something akin to Padiham playing Burnley on Turf Moor needing a 4-0 win to upset us. England should be giving Wales an absolute lubeless bumming, but I expect a drab soulless victory with the TV companies going into full hype mode for the next few days.
Padiham playing Burnley? really? no wonder you're disappointed with England regularly if you think we're that good compared to everyone else.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by LeadBelly » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:02 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:07 pm
Final group game, hoping for a much better showing than against the US.

Topping the group means Senegal next, while 2nd place would mean the Netherlands.

Walker is in for Trippier, Henderson for Mount, Rashford and Foden for Saka and Sterling. Looks like it could be 4-2-3-1 with Bellingham advanced.

Roberts isn’t in the Wales 11.
Roberts not in start XI as you say but it looks like it may be a back four set-up for Wales rather than 3 + 2X wing-backs. We'll see when they set up. Im hoping it's a decent match; would prefer an England win but not hugely concerned about that as long as England go through (and if they don't from here there'll rightly be ructions).

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:06 pm

Expecting a snore fest zzzzzzxx

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Carwin261 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:08 pm

Dynamic Henderson in midfield,give me strength.
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Re: England v Wales

Post by Goalposts » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:09 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:06 pm
Expecting a snore fest zzzzzzxx
That’s my expectations also. Probably also lacking in a technical quality , with Henderson playing also does not give me satisfaction

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Goalposts » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:09 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:06 pm
Expecting a snore fest zzzzzzxx
That’s my expectations also. Probably also lacking in a technical quality , with Henderson playing also does not give me satisfaction

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Re: England v Wales

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:10 pm

Great chance for Rashford.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Goalposts » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:11 pm

An absolute nothing ball from Henderson into the box then from a good attacking position

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Buxtonclaret » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:12 pm

Great save from Ward!

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Re: England v Wales

Post by KRBFC » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:12 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:59 pm
No good picking dynamic players, unless they are asked to play dynamic football. Playing Southgate ball is just putting a shackle on our talent.

It's all about the performance, if we go for it, no problem, if we don't get on the front foot I hope we lose.
Respectfully I can't take your opinion seriously when you said Harry Kane is a s**t footballer.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Goalposts » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:19 pm

About as much disguise on that free kick as night follows day

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Re: England v Wales

Post by LeadBelly » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:22 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:19 pm
About as much disguise on that free kick as night follows day
That free kick routine was pants. Somebody should've had a shot- always a chance of a rebound/ keeper error/ great shot. Sure therell be plenty of other dead ball opportunities though.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Carwin261 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:23 pm

Southgate is like a cheap imitation on Kompany ,but apart from the keeping possession bit ,that’s where the comparison ends ,Kompany has an end result,Southgate just bores you to death.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by RVclaret » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:23 pm

Much better from England so far. Dominating.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by box_of_frogs » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:23 pm

We’re winning the “aimless passing it about the back 4 game”.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by tiger76 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:25 pm

Better from England, but again lacking in creativity so far Rashford's chance apart it's been pretty sterile.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:26 pm

I’m surprised Brennan Johnson didn’t get a start.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:29 pm

Playing with just 3 attacking players with full backs staying deep is soul destroying from SafeGate. Poor Foden and Rashford are totally isolated.
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Re: England v Wales

Post by Murger » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:30 pm

30 minutes in and it’s more of the same.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by box_of_frogs » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:31 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:29 pm
Playing with just 3 attacking players with full backs staying deep is soul destroying from SafeGate. Poor Foden and Rashford are totally isolated.
Safegate! I like it, unlike his appalling “style” of football.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by KRBFC » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:32 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:30 pm
30 minutes in and it’s more of the same.
That's horse shite and you know it. Complete domination, look alot brighter.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:33 pm

ALL IS DROSS!

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Murger » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:34 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:32 pm
That's horse shite and you know it. Complete domination, look alot brighter.
Here he is. Our resident tactical genius.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Firthy » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:34 pm

I think Burnley could beat either of these. And I'm not joking 🤔😳😁
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Re: England v Wales

Post by maidenover » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:35 pm

Roberts on

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Re: England v Wales

Post by KRBFC » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:35 pm

Similar dominating football we watch week in week out, we should all know by now it takes a little patience to break down an 11 man defence.

The ones criticizing are doing so for the sake of it, bash your country at every chance instead of supporting, laughable, just turn it off.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Carwin261 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:35 pm

Roberts on!

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Re: England v Wales

Post by claret2018 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:35 pm

The problem with Southgate’s England is they don’t turn it on unless they absolutely have to.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by tiger76 » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:36 pm

Roberts coming on for Nico Williams who's still feeling the affects of taking that shot full in the face.

Concussion sub as well.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by KRBFC » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:36 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:34 pm
Here he is. Our resident tactical genius.
You should take a nationality test, bashing your country at every opportunity to bore us with an agenda. Sad

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Murger » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:37 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:35 pm
Similar dominating football we watch week in week out, we should all know by now it takes a little patience to break down an 11 man defence.

The ones criticizing are doing so for the sake of it, bash your country at every chance instead of supporting, laughable, just turn it off.
Those criticising are doing so because it’s crap.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by box_of_frogs » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:38 pm

Look at that. Running at pace and we suddenly have a decent chance. Who would’ve thought it.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by taio » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:38 pm

Brilliant move at great pace.

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Re: England v Wales

Post by Murger » Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:38 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:36 pm
You should take a nationality test, bashing your country at every opportunity to bore us with an agenda. Sad
I’m pretty sure you used to bore everyone with your anti-Dyche agenda all the time too.

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