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Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:36 am
by tiger76
20-1 and the short ball tactic pays early dividends for England.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:36 am
by footballdiedin92
1 down
9 to go

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:47 am
by footballdiedin92
Barbara Zam in already. Azhar ali retired hurt

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:49 am
by footballdiedin92
Bloody hell, Barbara's gone aswell now.
This is some start

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:50 am
by tiger76
Stokes gets the key wicket of Babar, England well on top suddenly.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:45 am
by Bordeauxclaret
Doesn’t seem long ago when we’d have to be about 500 in front with a day left before we’d declare under Root.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:56 am
by tiger76
80-2 at close a good recovery from Pakistan after losing those early wickets should be an intriguing final day.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:59 am
by tiger76
Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:45 am
Doesn’t seem long ago when we’d have to be about 500 in front with a day left before we’d declare under Root.
Yep England under Stokes are a different animal.

Of course if England go on to lose this match his decision will be questioned.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:55 pm
by LeadBelly
Yes it was an adventurous declaration, I thought they'd try and get another quick 20-30 at least.
They'll get some stick if Pakistan win but I presume they have some confidence that the wicket will become more difficult for batting than hitherto. Makes it very interesting whichever way it goes.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:35 pm
by claret wizard
tiger76 wrote:
Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:59 am
Yep England under Stokes are a different animal.

Of course if England go on to lose this match his decision will be questioned.
If we do lose I hope it isn’t and instead the focus is on our new desire to win, rather than not lose, test matches. Test cricket as a format needs this as an attitude if it’s going to survive in the world of franchise cricket. Great to see bowlers being allowed to attack today. They usually are there to just serve up treats for the batters. Looking forward to tomorrows play.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:19 pm
by tiger76
claret wizard wrote:
Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:35 pm
If we do lose I hope it isn’t and instead the focus is on our new desire to win, rather than not lose, test matches. Test cricket as a format needs this as an attitude if it’s going to survive in the world of franchise cricket. Great to see bowlers being allowed to attack today. They usually are there to just serve up treats for the batters. Looking forward to tomorrows play.
I like this positive intent from England, and if Pakistan chase down the runs fair play to them, beats just playing out a tedious draw om the 4th and 5th days, although I've no doubt Boycott wouldn't approve.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:07 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Much prefer this approach to cricket, reminds me very of the way Shane Warne approached the game.

Nothing wrong with suffering the occasional loss trying to win a game rather than seeing out a tame draw

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:58 am
by tiger76
Going to be a thrilling end to the game, Pakistan need another 126, England need 5 wickets, tie isn't even out of the question.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:51 am
by Colburn_Claret
Ball tracking can be added to VAR if that was missing the wickets, what a bloody joke.
It's no wonder it took so long to show it, it had to be doctored first.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:58 am
by Bordeauxclaret
There was a very bizarre ball tracking incident in the recent one dayers against Australia. Very suspect.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:58 am
by tiger76
257-5 at tea, England striving for a breakthrough but the small margins not falling their way.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:17 am
by IanMcL
Looks like a Pakistan win on the way or draw, if they lose wickets.

(That should give England a chance😁)

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:26 am
by LeadBelly
The big factor re outcome is likely number of overs. Theoretically it's something approaching 40 but the light will give out well before that. Somebody at tea saying c 22 is the estimate. 4 per over from Pakistan would be tough if they lost another wicket soon. New ball due soon as well is a factor.
A really interesting 90 minutes coming up.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:34 am
by alwaysaclaret
Suddenly swung in our favour again, but could still go either way, c'mon England.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:36 am
by tiger76
Will Pakistan now shut up shop having lost their 6th wicket, for me they should carry on chasing the runs and keep England under pressure.

Be ironic if Pakistan needed only a few and they went off for bad light wouldn't it.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:39 am
by tiger76
7 down now, draw might suddenly be favourite, Pakistan win looks unlikely now, but England will sniff a win from here.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:39 am
by Ashingtonclaret46
Smashing test match this has turned out to be. Ollie Robinson turning things back our way and was unlucky with one that hit the stumps at speed and the bails did not move! Talk about luck.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:40 am
by Bordeauxclaret
Should be in the bag now hopefully with this tail.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:00 am
by Hapag Lloyd
Great catch by Pope off Anderson 264/8

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:03 am
by Hapag Lloyd
Anderson with another 264/9

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:05 am
by Ashingtonclaret46
Jimmy with 4 for 36 off 21.4 overs ----- not bad for an oldie! He just keeps giving ----what a competitor.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:09 am
by Culmclaret
And in the joint highest scoring five day test match of all time

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:15 am
by Culmclaret
Now the highest scoring five day test!

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:38 am
by Hapag Lloyd
Leach gets him lbw, what a superb test match this has been.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:39 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Brilliant effort on that wicket

Always good to see bravery rewarded

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:42 am
by Ashingtonclaret46
Cracking game. 1768 runs scored, 37 wickets taken and 388.5 overs bowled and on a pitch that, on the first day, we never thought was going to give any result except a draw.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:42 am
by Bordeauxclaret
Boring dying Test Match cricket at it again.

Amazing effort to get 20 wickets on a pitch like that.

Not many would have been brave enough to do what McCullum and Stokes did there.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:43 am
by RVclaret
Incredible win and game.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:43 am
by tiger76
Genius declaration by Stokes who timed it to absolute perfection.

Credit to Anderson and Robinson for still running in hard on day 5 on a bland track.

The long tail costing Pakistan dearly in the end.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:45 am
by Mondsley
Brilliant from England and Stokes. He has totally manufactured that result with a declaration that I thought was way too generous. Hats off also to Jimmy and Ollie Robinson for some phenomenal bowling with the old ball.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:21 pm
by CleggHall
Agreed a very generous declaration but Pakistan batsmen should have won this for them on that track. Just shows what last-day pressure can do, Stokes has the Midas touch.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:25 pm
by Colburn_Claret
To get a result on that wicket was amazing, but Stokes deserves the plaudits, refusing to play for a draw and setting a field to make this test match as exciting as any one dayer.
I hope he continues to play this way, some we'll win, some we'll lose, but it will always be worth watching

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:33 pm
by LeadBelly
From a Pakistan point of view.... imagine scoring 847 runs over your two innings and still losing - bit of a sickener.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 12:36 pm
by MrTopTier
Great win, looking forward to catching the highlights.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:38 pm
by IanMcL
IanMcL wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:17 am
Looks like a Pakistan win on the way or draw, if they lose wickets.

(That should give England a chance😁)
I take full credit.

Re: Pakistan v England 1st Test

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:55 pm
by LeadBelly
Second test starting tomorrow in Multan. There's a report from that city in the Telegraph today which contains some fairly alarming/interesting info:

"The atmosphere hangs heavy with pollutants and contributes to the haze and fog that will interrupt play. The air quality is deemed 'unhealthy' and was 18.5 times higher on Thursday than the World Health Organisation's guideline value."

"But this is an area off the tourist trail despite the history and beautiful mausoleums. Westerners are restricted to a handful of hotels that are allowed to accept foreigners and all are high walled with armed guards and watchtowers.
An armed police escort is required to leave the hotel, which shocked two supporters who were about to pop off into town to buy their match tickets – priced at 55-95 pence each per day for the VIP or premium enclosures."


"The Elite Punjab Police Commandos, with their black t-shirts emblazoned on the back with “No Fear”, glock pistols and M4s at the ready, clear the traffic for media convoys and supporter buses with sirens wailing, shouting at errant rickshaw drivers that get in the way."

"Around 7,000 police officers are on duty and the security bill for this series is expected to cost the Pakistan Cricket Board $2 million. Bulletproof buses and a helicopter chaperone have been provided for the journeys between the ground and stadium."